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For Gingrich, Amnesty No Impediment to Nomination
Townhall.com ^ | 1/27/2012 | Linda Chavez

Posted on 01/27/2012 5:26:34 PM PST by rmlew

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As per Jim Robinson's orders, I will not vet his annointed one. I will celebrate Newt's conservative decision to accept a radical change in our culture, whether we the people get to vote on it. And here is the celebration of it from a Latina activist.
1 posted on 01/27/2012 5:26:44 PM PST by rmlew
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To: rmlew

We’re pretty much finished at this point anyway.

Illegals are government growth hormone.


2 posted on 01/27/2012 5:35:27 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: rmlew

Newt is not pro amenesty. He is not offerring citizenship for illegals. He has the #1 priority of securing the border before anything else. He wants to accellerate the deportation of hardened criminals and make legal immigration easier. I suppose we could rely on illegals to self deport as Romney suggests. I’d sure like self ticketing and self tax audits too for that matter. :-)


3 posted on 01/27/2012 5:37:02 PM PST by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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It is true that Newt is pushing an amnesty idea for those who have been here illegally for 25 years. That is idiotic and wrong. If you break the law a long time you're rewarded, but breaking it for a shorter period means no taco. I like Newt but he is very weak on immigration.

But one remarkable thing—though none of the current 4 candidates still standing is particularly strong on immigration, I believe they have all (except possibly Paul) come out in support of border security, opposed the Dream Act, have agreed to e-verify, and are all talking about forcing self-deportation by drying up jobs and benefits for illegals. Santorum has even made favorable statements about ending chain migration and (I think) the visa lottery. These are stands past Republican candidates have seldom taken. That's major progress over the Jorge Bush/Juan McCain era.

4 posted on 01/27/2012 5:37:54 PM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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Conservatives embraced a pro-amnesty candidate without batting an eyelash.

BS, the SC primary was tremendously influenced by Newt's debate performance and the assists handed to him by the moderator. Illegal aliens and amnesty received little discussion in those particular debates.

And Newt's talking tough on enforcement and presenting a very nuanced (and impractical) position on amnesty.

5 posted on 01/27/2012 5:40:38 PM PST by Will88
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To: Maelstorm
Newt is not pro amenesty.
Yes he is. He wants to allow million of illegal aliens to stay here, provided that they have anchor babies or other roots.
He is not offerring citizenship for illegals.
Amnesty is not holding illegal aliens responsible for their crime of invading this country. It is not granting citizenship. Stop using the communist technique of redefining terms.

He wants to accellerate the deportation of hardened criminals and make legal immigration easier
But minor criminals can stay.

I suppose we could rely on illegals to self deport as Romney suggests. I’d sure like self ticketing and self tax audits too for that matter. :-)
Without jobs, people leave. Notice how the criminal invaders leave states that enforce laws no not letting them work or drive.

6 posted on 01/27/2012 5:41:12 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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Gingrich is ideally suited to move the GOP toward a more politically viable — not to mention humane — immigration policy.
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I’m with Newt on his Immigration Policy. If the GOP does not lean more toward the Gingrich/Perry policy than it does the Romney/Bachmann Policy, we will be the minority Party from here on out. End of story.


7 posted on 01/27/2012 5:42:32 PM PST by no dems (I'm more concerned with America's future than I am Newt's past.)
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I doubt there are a million senior citizen illegals. Read Newt’s plan. It is NOT amensty at all.


8 posted on 01/27/2012 5:46:29 PM PST by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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Gingrich is ideally suited to move the GOP toward a more politically viable — not to mention humane — immigration policy.
Allowing in 100 million alienated poor people from socialist countries will help this GOP in the next century.

Go look up Vortigern or how well Rome did when they allowed the Goths to settle.

9 posted on 01/27/2012 5:47:28 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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If there are 30 million illegals in America, that's enough to make up nearly 50 house seats, primarily democrat. The stupid party deserves what's coming. Unfortunately they don't have the courage to face it alone and we the people will pay the price.

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I dated a Serbian woman who said that it happened exactly the same way in her country.
10 posted on 01/27/2012 5:49:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Maelstorm
He's extending the 1986 amnesty and promising to be tough next time. And Newt's campaign are calling Romney racist for wanting atrrition by enforcement.
We know Newt's campaign promise, and we know what Newt's promises are worth. We also see his rhetoric and history.
11 posted on 01/27/2012 5:49:48 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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You are full of crap. No one in their right mind believes every single illegal will be rounded up and sent packing. Will not happen ever without massive civil disorder and civil war.

I live in Las Vegas, there are 300,000 illegals here. Are you guys coming here with your rubber band guns to move every single one of them out? I didn’t think so. And don’t get me wrong, they are a scourge, I had my offices gasoline firbombed by illegals (I could have burned alive) and another set cleaned out my storage locker, but unless you guys are willing to go to bloody war I don’t think anything Gingrich has said is out of line with reality.

So go vote for pandering Romney you morons, cause I guarantee he won’t do a damn thing.


12 posted on 01/27/2012 5:51:25 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: no dems
End of story.

If the millions of illegals already here are granted amnesty, the end of the story will be a huge increase in citizens and Dim voters, and a new Dim majority that could last for several generations.

The notion that granting amnesty for humane purposes will win large numbers of Latinos over to the Republican party is pie-in-the-sky nonsense and self-destructive.

13 posted on 01/27/2012 5:55:58 PM PST by Will88
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To: DaxtonBrown
You are full of crap. No one in their right mind believes every single illegal will be rounded up and sent packing. Will not happen ever without massive civil disorder and civil war.
What part of attrition by enforcement don't you understand? N one is calling for round ups. Just cut benefits and make it much harder to get jobs. They will self deport.

So go vote for pandering Romney you morons, cause I guarantee he won’t do a damn thing.
Manichean lunacy. There are other candidates. And even if there weren't I am an American and Conservative before a Republican and I have the God Given adn Constitutional protected right and duty to point out the mistakes of politicians.

14 posted on 01/27/2012 5:55:58 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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How is Gingrich putting all those people in the military, when..
The Pentagon proposed budget cuts on Thursday that would slash the size of the U.S. military by eliminating thousands of jobs, mothballing ships and trimming air squadrons in an effort to shift strategic direction and reduce spending by $487 billion over a decade.

The funding request, which includes painful cuts for many states, sets the stage for a new struggle between President Barack Obama’s administration and Congress over how much the Pentagon should spend on national security as the country tries to curb trillion-dollar budget deficits.

US Army chief ‘comfortable’ with smaller force as Pentagon prepares cuts

Make no mistake, the savings we are proposing will impact all 50 states and many districts across America,” Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told a news conference at the Pentagon. “This will be a test of whether reducing the deficit is about talk or action.”

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/26/10244240-panetta-military-cuts-to-hit-all-50-states


15 posted on 01/27/2012 5:58:39 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: DaxtonBrown
Will not happen ever without massive civil disorder and civil war.

That's coming anyway. La Raza and related groups are talking about their growing numbers and how they almost have enough to take "their" country back.
16 posted on 01/27/2012 5:58:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: rmlew

Romney supports a much wider form of amnesty.


17 posted on 01/27/2012 6:00:06 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: SharpRightTurn
So it's "very weak" to secure the border, streamline deportation, streamline visitor visas, register every illegal, deploy everify, stop suing AZ and other states, sanction employers and when *all* that is completed you propose local communities may exam those still here with decades long deep community ties and decide, case by case, whether or not they should get a red card visa to stay in country.

Yeah, he's open borders. /s

19 posted on 01/27/2012 6:06:22 PM PST by newzjunkey (a FL win returns Romney to the "inevitability" path.)
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To: rmlew

Surrending to illegals is the new conservatism!


20 posted on 01/27/2012 6:09:34 PM PST by Dagnabitt ("None of the above" ain't running.)
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