Posted on 01/29/2012 11:00:31 AM PST by RoosterRedux
I assume everyone can figure out the missing verb - the statement is a modification of a common street insult.
I understand. I was just injecting some levity into an otherwise tense week.
That "mantle" crap seems to be something that causes many mormons to decide that they're God, and murder other people. It usually occurs after they have gotten crossways with the original LDS church, and have joined or started other offshoot cults (FLDS, etc). Seems like I remember reading about one that wound up in Mexico- Ervil LeBaron. Wound up killing a bunch of people, as well as his kids doing some murders of their own. I have read about four different books about these and other "mantle murderers". One was titled "Four O'clock Murders".
I guess GOD was able to talk to the lawmakers of America better than the Living Prophet® of the LDS church.
Too bad HE didn't see fit to actually CHANGE any of HIS 'scriptures' on the matter.
I guess GOD was able to talk to the lawmakers of America better than the Living Prophet® of the LDS church.
Too bad HE didn't see fit to actually CHANGE any of HIS 'scriptures' on the matter.
Though a Mormon, he was never considered to be a racist by any "mainstream" critics.
Whatever MAINSTREAM means in this context...
That was before LDS 'scripture', teachings and writings were widely available.
It doesn't apeear to be; does it.
1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said, "The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."
unfortunate ?
http://www.rickross.com/reference/mormon/mormon13.html
Did Hatch Allude to LDS Prophecy?
The Salt Lake Tribune, November 11, 1999
By John Heilprin
Sen. Orrin Hatch has denied his Republican presidential campaign is motivated by a longing to fulfill an obscure Mormon myth. But during an interview with a Mormon Church-owned radio station this week, he borrowed the exact phrasing of the apocalyptic belief.
According to the so-called “White Horse Prophecy,” the U.S. Constitution will be hanging by a thread and a church elder from Zion will ride in on a metaphorical white horse and save it.
Utah’s senior senator, in a 45-minute interview Tuesday on KSL Radio’s “The Doug Wright Show,” complained that Democrats’ political correctness will be the ruin of the country.
“They tolerate everything that’s bad, and they’re intolerant of everything that’s good. Religious freedom is going to go down the drain, too,” Hatch said. “I’ve never seen it worse than this, where the Constitution literally is hanging by a thread.”
Hatch, who chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee, repeated his belief that the main issue in the 2000 election is who will get to pick the next several Supreme Court justices and half the nation’s federal judges, and that he is the only presidential contender qualified to make the selections. “I’d like to be in the position of being president so we can get the best judges, bar none,” he told KSL from Washington. “Because it’s been the judiciary that has saved this country and the Constitution year after year.”
Hatch is a member of Utah’s dominant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. KSL Radio is an LDS Church-owned station that caters to a largely conservative church audience in GOP-controlled Utah.
Wright, also a Mormon, said Hatch clearly was “talking to his folks” in the church audience and his use of the phrase was the buzz of the station afterward.
“It just caught me by surprise. It was worded carefully,” Wright said Wednesday. “I’m not sure he saw himself as the one who would fulfill the prophecy, but I thought it walked a fine line. It’s such a well-recognized phrase.”
(snip)
http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2011/08/05/idahopolitics/rammell_there_will_be_blood#storylink=cpy
Rammell: There will be blood
Submitted by Dan Popkey on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 10:20am, updated on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 11:47am
Fresh from his guilty plea to criminal contempt, perennial candidate Rex Rammell says “The federal government will fail. It is inevitable.”
Rammell also reviews his July poaching conviction, which he is appealing.
Rammell, who spoke of the “White Horse Prophecy” during his 2010 gubernatorial race, wrote, “It has been prophesied that there will be ‘blood in the streets.’ Fathers will turn against their sons and sons will turn against their fathers. Mothers will turn against their daughters and daughters will turn against their mothers. People will be starving. Crime will become rampant. America will be on the verge of crumbling to pieces.”
His opinion piece may again draw on the prophecy, attributed by some to Joseph Smith, that the Constitution of the United States would “hang by a thread” and be saved by elders in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, of which Rammell is a member.
Rammell finished second in the 2010 race, and also has lost campaigns for the legislature and U.S. Senate.
He submitted his opinion piece to the Idaho Statesman and other papers, with his customary, “Thank you for running this article.”
You’re welcome, Rex. Here it is, in it’s unedited entirety:
(snip)
http://m.npr.org/news/front/130470858?singlePage=true
Glenn Beck: Reading Between The Coded Lines
National Public Radio - Sunday, October 10, 2010
Show: Weekend All Things Considered
GUY RAZ, host:
It’s safe to say some of those members of Congress might chalk up the decline in civility in part to the men and women on cable TV, including one of the most influential, Glenn Beck.
(Montage of clips from TV show “The Glenn Beck Program”)
Mr. GLENN BECK (Host, “The Glenn Beck Program”): Oh, we can’t afford any more... The battle for the soul of America... The paradigm is about to change... Where our Constitution is hanging by a thread... We would like some sanity in our country for a second...
RAZ: Now, all that may sound like stock political tirades, but take another listen.
(Soundbite of TV show “The Glenn Beck Program”)
Mr. BECK: Our Constitution is hanging by a thread.
RAZ: That phrase, hanging by a thread, may have a deeper meaning, at least to a small minority of people within The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, better known as the Mormon Church.
Glenn Beck is an LDS member himself, and in a new book, Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank makes the case that there’s a specific reason Beck uses that phrase.
Mr. DANA MILBANK (Author, “Tears of a Clown: Glenn Beck and the Tea Bagging of America”): Hanging by a thread is the word. That’s the word that keeps getting repeated over and over again through the generations. And as this has been described by...
RAZ: According to obscure Mormon lore, something called the White Horse Prophecy foretells a time when the Constitution hangs by a thread, a time when Mormon elders will rise up to rescue America from tyranny.
Mr. MILBANK: It’s actually a fairly benign prophecy. They’re talking about restoring law and order and peace and tranquility. It doesn’t sound like a violent thing, although sometimes in Beck’s telling, it turns into that...
RAZ: And this is a relatively obscure...
Mr. MILBANK: It is. And I think a lot of Mormons say, well, wait. That is not a central tenet of our thinking. That’s off on the side here. And I agree. I think that in many ways, Glenn Beck has picked up some of the more obscure and indeed some of the more extreme work of Mormon thinkers such as Cleon Skousen who are quite controversial.
RAZ: Now, in a moment, we’ll get into how you believe Glenn Beck sort of makes allusions to some of these Mormon ideas in his rhetoric. But I want to listen to him using that phrase. This is an interview that he did with Senator Orrin Hatch about a year and a half ago, who is also a Mormon. He’s a Republican senator from Utah. Let’s take a listen.
(Soundbite of TV show “The Glenn Beck Program”)
Mr. BECK: Hello, Senator. How are you, sir?
Senator ORRIN HATCH (Republican, Utah): Well, nice to be with you, Glenn. I appreciate your program, and I appreciate all that you’re trying to do here in spreading the word.
Mr. BECK: Barack Obama - talk about the Constitution.
Sen. HATCH: Oh, yeah.
Mr. BECK: And I thought, we are at the point, or we are very near the point, where our Constitution is hanging by a thread.
Sen. HATCH: You got that right. I believe the Constitution is hanging by a thread.
(snip)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1845351/posts
Giuliani Campaign Hits the ‘Mormon Issue’
The New York Sun ^ | 06/04/07 | Ryan Sager
So far, the opposing Republican presidential campaigns have by-and-large refrained from attacking Mitt Romney on what’s been called “the Mormon issue.” Specifically, the issue is that many see Mr. Romney’s Mormon faith as a potential stumbling block in his run for the presidency, on account of Americans’ mixed views on (and lack of understanding of) the Mormon religion.
Today, however, a blogger has provided me (on condition of anonymity) an email from the Rudy Giuliani campaign drawing attention to an article from today’s Salt Lake Tribune tying Mr. Romney to a disavowed Mormon prophecy of a “White Horse” that will ride onto the national stage to save the Constitution.
The email doesn’t say much, but in it, the “Deputy eCampaign Director” of the Giuliani campaign, Katie Harbath, directs the blogger to the Salt Lake Tribune story — clearly in the hope that the story and its “Romney-as-fulfiller-of-Mormon-prophecy” angle will receive wider play.
The blogger describes him/her self to me as a Romney critic, but someone who “doesn’t have a problem with his religion.” (It’s a statement that matches up completely with the blogger’s public record.)
Here, then, is the email (with identifying details redacted):
From: Katie Harbath <[redacted]@joinrudy2008.com>
Date: Jun 4, 2007 [redacted] AM
Subject: Is Romney the stuff of Mormon legend?
To: [redacted]
[redacted],
Thought you’d find this interesting.
Best,
Katie
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_6055090
Is Romney the stuff of Mormon legend?
Alleged Smith prophecy says a Mormon will save the U.S. Constitution
By Thomas Burr
The Salt Lake Tribune
Salt Lake TribuneArticle Last Updated:06/04/2007 12:49:40 AM MDTWASHINGTON - It’s Mormon lore, a story passed along by some old-timers about the importance of their faith and their country.
In the latter days, the story goes, the U.S. Constitution will hang by a thread and a Mormon will ride in on a metaphoricalj white horse to save it. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not accept the legend - commonly referred to as the “White Horse Prophecy” - as doctrine.
(snip)
bttt
Hmmm .. the 12th imam and the white horse prophecy ... seems all groups have predictions tied to their religion.
Biblical
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_prophecy
Native American:
http://www.maar.us/lakota_sioux.html
Hindu
http://bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled/hindutim.htm
Buddhist
http://www.bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled/buddhasa.htm
Sikh
http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/393-sikh-prophecy/
Seventh Day Adventist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_in_the_Seventh-day_Adventist_Church
How ELSE would the Anti-Christ be able to seduce the world?
The difference is that Romney truly believes it, and teaches it, and devotes tens of millions of dollars to that religion.
Obama knows that he will die, he may even believe in heaven, but Bishop Romney believes that he will become a God, and become a ruler of a planet, and of others, as God is to us here.
Did he win?
; - )
No, dammit. Wife #6 had mistaken sent his magic underwear to the laundry on election day.;-)
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