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Mitt and the White Horse Prophecy
salon ^ | 1/29/2012 | SALLY DENTON

Posted on 01/29/2012 11:00:31 AM PST by RoosterRedux

Romney avoids mentioning it, but [Joseph] Smith ran for president in 1844 as an independent commander in chief of an “army of God” advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government in favor of a Mormon-ruled theocracy. Challenging Democrat James Polk and Whig Henry Clay, Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands that “they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.” Smith viewed capturing the presidency as part of the mission of the church. He had predicted the emergence of “the one Mighty and Strong” — a leader who would “set in order the house of God” — and became the first of many prominent Mormon men to claim the mantle.

Smith’s insertion of religion into politics and his call for a “theodemocracy where God and people hold the power to conduct the affairs of men in righteous matters” created a sensation and drew hostility from the outside world. But his candidacy was cut short when he was shot to death by an anti-Mormon vigilante mob. Out of Smith’s national political ambitions grew what would become known in Mormon circles as the “White Horse Prophecy” — a belief ingrained in Mormon culture and passed down through generations by church leaders that the day would come when the U.S. Constitution would “hang like a thread as fine as a silk fiber” and the Mormon priesthood would save it.

Romney is the product of this culture. At BYU, he was idolized by fellow students and referred to, only half jokingly, as the “One Mighty and Strong.” He was the “alpha male” in the rarefied Cougar pack, according to Michael D. Moody, a BYU classmate and fellow member of the group...

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Kudos and credit for this post go to Freeper "Sodpoodle" for directing me to this fascinating article earlier this morning.

If Romney wins, this is a good picture of what we are in for.

1 posted on 01/29/2012 11:00:34 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: sodpoodle

Ping. Gave you credit above...hope you don’t mind.


2 posted on 01/29/2012 11:02:03 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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To: greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; Godzilla; MHGinTN; narses; reaganaut; SENTINEL; ...

Ping


3 posted on 01/29/2012 11:04:46 AM PST by Zakeet (If Obama had half a brain, his butt would be lopsided)
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To: RoosterRedux
Romney FORCED Obama down the throat of America,
just like his RomneyCARE, RomneyMarriage, and RomneyBIGDIG.


The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++8 pts. days prior to September 18th, 2008.
So the RomneyTeam attacked Gov. Palin and her children to throw Election2008.

Romney for Obama in 2008

Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.


"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off ….hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



4 posted on 01/29/2012 11:05:18 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: RoosterRedux
Romney is the product of this culture. At BYU, he was idolized by fellow students and referred to, only half jokingly, as the “One Mighty and Strong.”
Romney is creepy in so many ways.
5 posted on 01/29/2012 11:05:32 AM PST by Timaeus (Willard Mitt Romney Delenda Est)
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To: RoosterRedux

Was prompted to look up the ‘White Horse’ reference from the other thread.

There is also a PBS documentary discussed and available here:
http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_pbs_the_mormons.html

Have never participated in the LDS discussions on FR because I am unfamiliar with them - although I found their geneology records helpful in ancestry research;)


6 posted on 01/29/2012 11:10:16 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to celebrate life and embrace the future.)
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To: RoosterRedux

This prophecy?

The white descendant of Mormon polygamists shall come forth from Mexico and smite the Tea Party and empower the Obamanation of Desolation.


7 posted on 01/29/2012 11:10:33 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: RoosterRedux

So Romney is the American Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.


8 posted on 01/29/2012 11:17:50 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

LOL! But what’s creepy, is that this is probably exactly what he believes. Maybe he doesn’t like Newt’s moon idea because he had planned to ask for the moon as the planet he gets when he dies? (I know the moon is not a planet, I’m just referring to the Mormon belief that Mormon men, like Muslims, get their own planet, well-stocked with nubile females, when they die.)


9 posted on 01/29/2012 11:23:18 AM PST by livius
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To: RoosterRedux
romney desparate, romney desparate
10 posted on 01/29/2012 11:24:01 AM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: RoosterRedux
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11 posted on 01/29/2012 11:26:09 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Have Regrets Because At The Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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To: SkyDancer

Ooooh—I like that!


12 posted on 01/29/2012 11:31:37 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Oh no, does this mean I have to marry at least twice next year? /s
Robinson was vice president of the Chock Full O Nuts coffee and cafe corporation, a company with numerous black employees and a significant presence in New York City. Photo Credit: Chock Full O Nuts

13 posted on 01/29/2012 11:31:55 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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So, if Romney becomes President, he converts the entire country to Mormonism? Just like he did to the State of Massachusetts?


14 posted on 01/29/2012 11:33:04 AM PST by Rio (DNRC)
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To: livius; greyfoxx39; Gamecock; xzins
LOL! But what’s creepy, is that this is probably exactly what he believes. Maybe he doesn’t like Newt’s moon idea because he had planned to ask for the moon as the planet he gets when he dies? (I know the moon is not a planet, I’m just referring to the Mormon belief that Mormon men, like Muslims, get their own planet, well-stocked with nubile females, when they die.)

Oh, but you are so wrong.

According to the Founding Mormon Prophet Joseph Smith, the Moon is inhabited by 6 foot tall Quakers.

15 posted on 01/29/2012 11:33:40 AM PST by P-Marlowe (NEWT!!! The Anti-EstablishMITTarian Candidate)
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To: RoosterRedux

One thing I like about Romney is the Democrats would never raise issues like this during the general election.

/sarc


16 posted on 01/29/2012 11:34:34 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: livius

So if Mitt works faithfully to set up a Mormon theocracy, he gets 72 virgins?


17 posted on 01/29/2012 11:40:23 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: SunkenCiv
Maybe I'm missing something here, but how does Jackie Robinson fit into the topic being discussed in this thread?
18 posted on 01/29/2012 11:42:28 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Thane_Banquo

Yeah, but he might have to fight off Ahmadinejad to get them...


19 posted on 01/29/2012 11:43:05 AM PST by livius
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20 posted on 01/29/2012 11:43:54 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: P-Marlowe

“As far back as 1837, Joseph Smith was writing about Area 51...” Ooops, sorry, I misread that!

If the average person knew the theories of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, condensed into what we now know as Mormonism, they wouldn’t know whether to laugh or to scream.


21 posted on 01/29/2012 11:48:47 AM PST by livius
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To: Thane_Banquo

Agreed. We will be treated over this election cycle with numerous articles regarding Mormonism’s bizarre theology, traditions and history.


22 posted on 01/29/2012 11:54:21 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: livius
If the average person knew the theories of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, condensed into what we now know as Mormonism, they wouldn’t know whether to laugh or to scream.

Missionary Mitt has demonstrated that LYING is a perfectly acceptable.... means and methods to WIN. Wonder if he used that same technique in building his capital gains? Obama's performance art crowd 'occupy' are going to thump his 1% 'rich' gourd.

23 posted on 01/29/2012 11:54:52 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Rio

Did’jua get that part about the US government and US Constitution being overthrown and controlled by lds?
The prophecy is about the US not a state.


24 posted on 01/29/2012 11:57:03 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: RoosterRedux; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; randita; GOPsterinMA; justiceseeker93; ...

Unless I’m mistaken, Mitt Romney didn’t attempt to force the Massachusetts to become Mormons. This thread is interesting as history, but it’s absurd to say it’s anything other than history. There are many valid reasons to oppose Romney without bringing up the church he attends.


25 posted on 01/29/2012 11:57:18 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: RoosterRedux

It would be much easier for Romney to rename our planet, Kolob ......and require us to refer to him as “god Romney”.


26 posted on 01/29/2012 11:59:23 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO--itÂ’s about the survival of our country!!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Here's a White Horse prophecy: Obama or Romney as the next POTUS and I'ma riding the White Horse


27 posted on 01/29/2012 11:59:54 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: RoosterRedux
But his candidacy was cut short when he was shot to death by an anti-Mormon vigilante mob in a shootout during a jailbreak after his arrest which occurred after he directed his minions to burn down a newspaper that was writing unflattering things about him.

Note: Smith had a gun. He was shooting back. We are not talking Lives of the Saints and holy martyrdom here.

28 posted on 01/29/2012 12:00:14 PM PST by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: Clintonfatigued
The article says that Mitt was the equivalent of a Catholic Cardinal (that's CARDINAL) in the Boston Mormon Church.

If a Catholic Cardinal were running for President, do you think his church and his relationship to it would be fair game?

29 posted on 01/29/2012 12:03:30 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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To: Tribune7

Smith burned down news papers because they said unflattering things about him.
Romney destroys people in commercials and innuendo when they say unflattering things about him. (especially if they are black or Catholic or women)
Cut from the same jib that Smith and Romney.


30 posted on 01/29/2012 12:05:45 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: svcw
Romney destroys people in commercials and innuendo when they say unflattering things about him.

And can you imagine what he will do if and when he is the president?

31 posted on 01/29/2012 12:09:16 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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To: RoosterRedux

Be just like BHO.


32 posted on 01/29/2012 12:11:35 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: RoosterRedux

The Catholic Church doesn’t allow its clergy to hold public office, so that’s not something I’ve given any thought to. In any event, the Mormons don’t have the large professional clergy that the Catholic Church does. With few exceptions, it has a layman’s ministry which operates on a volunteer basis. A Mormom with the title of bishop is usually not a long-term position and it is not a paid position. It’s an apples and oranges anaolgy.

None of this means I support Mitt Romney. He is my least favorite Republican candidate. I don’t fault you for opposing him at all. Still, there is a wealth of material you can post without resorting to attacks on his faith. As I mentioned in my last post, did Romney attempt to force his religion on Massachusetts when he was Governor there?


33 posted on 01/29/2012 12:13:27 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: svcw
That's what I'm thinking. The power and wealth of the already powerful and wealthy Mormon Church will take a GREAT leap upward.

Boggles the mind.

34 posted on 01/29/2012 12:14:55 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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To: Clintonfatigued
[D]id Romney attempt to force his religion on Massachusetts when he was Governor there?

The better question would be, did Romney enrich or empower the Mormon Church in any way as governor? And would he as president?

As a former missionary and a powerful leader in the Mormon Church, I'm am sure this is in his thoughts.

35 posted on 01/29/2012 12:19:00 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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To: RoosterRedux

The Mormon people who I know hold Romney as Divine!

I say that a man is the product of his personal belief system. If you want to know Miatt Romney, study the LDS Church, because the church owns it’s members! As a Bishop of the secret society known as the LDS Church, Mitt Romney considers himself divine as well! Just as Barack Obama holds himself above our laws! Brothers by different mothers! Mitt Romney is the Mormon’s White Horse!


36 posted on 01/29/2012 12:21:29 PM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: RoosterRedux
Sacrament meetings at which each member testified to his belief that he lived in Heaven before being born on Earth, that he became mortal in order to usher in the latter days, and that he recognized Joseph Smith as the prophet, the Book of Mormon as the word of God, and the Mormon church as the one true faith.

The only thing missing is the part about Jihad.

37 posted on 01/29/2012 12:22:52 PM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: RoosterRedux

As much as I do not like Romney, I dislike even more this ominous sounding left wing hit piece. Articles like this are just the beginning and we would be well advised not to click through to websites that offer one or another ding on our candidates. These are meant to demoralize us.

We may end up with Romney and if we do, I, for one, will pull the lever on his (our) behalf. I still prefer someone else, but I’ll take anyone over that fool in the White House.


38 posted on 01/29/2012 12:23:58 PM PST by BlueCat
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To: All; sodpoodle

All should read what is in that website. It exposes the LDS myths. Go and read, then come back and tell us that a mormon president would not matter.


39 posted on 01/29/2012 12:26:09 PM PST by annieokie
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To: BlueCat; RoosterRedux

Blue your point would be brilliant if the information were not true. Hit pieces are “facts” that have been distorted, or selected, there is nothing in this story which is not true.
mormons teach the “white horse prophecy”, they believe the “white horse prophecy” and they believe Romney is the guy.
All of my large lds family are supporting Romney lock stock and barrel because he is lds AND one aunt said Romney will be the fulfillment of the prophecy, she actually refers to him as Moses.


40 posted on 01/29/2012 12:30:38 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: RoosterRedux

The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator, that everything was created THROUGH Him, BY Him and FOR Him.

41 posted on 01/29/2012 12:37:21 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: RoosterRedux

There is a ‘White Horse’ in biblical prophecy...I know who rides it. Pretty sure that He’s not a mormon nor named Romney!


42 posted on 01/29/2012 12:38:24 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (The 2nd Amendment IS my concealed carry permit)
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To: RoosterRedux

“At BYU, he was idolized by fellow students and referred to, only half jokingly, as the “One Mighty and Strong.” He was the “alpha male” in the rarefied Cougar pack, according to Michael D. Moody, a BYU classmate and fellow member of the group...”

The lds-org has a very low definition of Divinity.

Very incorrect is more like it.


43 posted on 01/29/2012 12:41:20 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Out of Smith’s national political ambitions grew what would become known in Mormon circles as the “White Horse Prophecy” — a belief ingrained in Mormon culture and passed down through generations by church leaders that the day would come when the U.S. Constitution would “hang like a thread as fine as a silk fiber” and the Mormon priesthood would save it.

Save it? As what, under a "theodemocracy", whatever *that* may be? As a relic of a distant past? This is what is known as "cognitive dissonance", or the simultaneous acceptance of mutually exclusive conditions...

the infowarrior

45 posted on 01/29/2012 12:45:47 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: Finny

Yes sir
1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.

4 And there went out another horse [that was] red: and [power] was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.

6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Revelation: Chapter 6 (which btw and coincidentally has surfaced in conversations a couple of times since last nite)


46 posted on 01/29/2012 12:48:24 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (The 2nd Amendment IS my concealed carry permit)
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To: RoosterRedux

Well we were not all forced in to Catholicism when Kennedy got into the Whitehouse and I’m doubly doubting that a President Mitt will put us on the road to magic shirts and multiple wives. I guess this puts me on the record Rooster - so if there are forced marches to the temple I’ll be feeling like a real ass.


47 posted on 01/29/2012 12:58:16 PM PST by sick1 (Don't fear the freeper)
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To: Rio
“So, if Romney becomes President, he converts the entire country to Mormonism?”

Great line. I resisted Islam under Obama. I can resist Mitt. I am the resistance. After all, what would the Pope say?

48 posted on 01/29/2012 1:02:21 PM PST by FryingPan101 (My taglines always lose.)
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To: Outlaw Woman; All
I sheepishly asked to have my post deleted when I read Revelations 6 further in context!! Hell followed the "pale" horse, seated by Death; the white horse was seated by a man with a bow and crown.

Are they one and the same?

In any case, Romney is depraved enough that while he was Governor of Massachusetts, officially endorsed and praised a Gay Youth Pride event put on at a junior high school!!! In Romney's eyes, that was proper use of government, to condone kids not even old enough to drive declaring and "celebrating" their own sexual perversion, a perversion specifically condemned in the Bible.

FReepers, if God Forbid this despicable man won the GOP nomination and it was him vs. Obama, think LONG AND HARD about the consequences of approaching this election only in terms of voting "against" Obama. Remember what you would be voting for -- a person craven and wicked enough to use his political office to congratulate children's embrace among themselves of open homosexuality.

It goes hand-in-hand with the taxpayer subsidized $50 easy abortion option in his RomeyCare, and that alone is and has always been ALL THAT IS NEEDED to reject Romney outright. Judging Romney the lesser evil compared to Obama is wishful thinking.

If you vote "against" Obama by voting for Romney, THAT kind of depravity is what you WOULD be voting FOR.

My vote will go elsewhere if Romney gets the nod.

49 posted on 01/29/2012 1:07:51 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Finny
Well I wondered. You were correct that Death and Hell follows. You just made no allusion to the others prior. Didn't see that as out of context. No...not one and the same.
50 posted on 01/29/2012 1:17:54 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (The 2nd Amendment IS my concealed carry permit)
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