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Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?

Posted on 11/07/2008 12:05:16 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network

It pains me, as one who once supported Mitt Romney so much as to even contribute to his campaign, but watching his flunkies ATTACK Sarah Palin, I am filled with anger and contempt.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: 2008; elections; mccain; palin; romney; vote
For the next four years, you Mitt attack dogs -- watch America, and know it is your fault.
1 posted on 11/07/2008 12:05:16 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Explain, please. Because it sure looks like McCain is responsible.


2 posted on 11/07/2008 12:06:12 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (1-22-13)
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To: Darkwolf377

McCain is responsible

Point blank. McCain’s camp is trying to spread lies about Palin and Romney’s camp.

Good riddance McCain


3 posted on 11/07/2008 12:07:46 AM PST by Def Conservative (Palin, Jindal, Pence, Sanford, Steele= the new GOP...out with the old)
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To: Darkwolf377

All the early GOP turncouts seem to be “Mittens”.

That bubblehead at NR was the first. But it seems to be a cadre of Mittens, from day one attacked Palin.

I have seen nothing out of Mitt, to stand his flunkes down.

McCain really did seem to be running not to win, but for his ego. But even now, Mitt’s people are going after Palin right here on this board.


4 posted on 11/07/2008 12:08:36 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (PALIN 2012: No more RINOS... Ever!!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Obamas win is the best thing that could of happened for us.

Figure it out.

They can not make it without us to blame for their problems.

Any thoughts?


5 posted on 11/07/2008 12:09:46 AM PST by screaminsunshine
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Do you have names for the flunkies ? Do they have Romney or McCain flunkie powers ? How did Romney flunkies get on McCain's flunkie staff ? Is Barney a Mitt attack dog ?
6 posted on 11/07/2008 12:10:07 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: Def Conservative
I had to laugh when I heard Chuckie Schumer be about the 4th person today I heard say he liked the "old" McCain, and they hoped he was back after his concession speech.

He never left. We just deluded ourselves that he had for awhile.

I think it's now clear that he never really let go of his dream of Lieberman as his VP choice, and he took Palin as some kind of sop to "those conservatives" or however he probably refers to us.

Don't let the door hit your ass on your way to the Dems' clubhouse, John.

7 posted on 11/07/2008 12:11:55 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (1-22-13)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I have seen nothing out of Mitt, to stand his flunkes down.

I agree with your point, about the Romneyoids attacking Palin, but his not telling them to stand down isn't really his place. If they want to be aholes about it, we can ignore them.

I don't think he's going to run again, btw.

8 posted on 11/07/2008 12:13:33 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (1-22-13)
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To: screaminsunshine

I’m not sure Republicans are up to the task, of blaming Obama.

If (we) are, then you may be right.

I fear we are too nice. By factors of magnitude.


9 posted on 11/07/2008 12:13:44 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (PALIN 2012: No more RINOS... Ever!!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You don’t know anything only what some people are saying! I thought it was McCain aides that were spreading the rumors. Anyway that is what the media said. Of course they were anonymous! I know one thing it was vicious and cruel’ blaming someone else for your own short comings!


10 posted on 11/07/2008 12:14:11 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
All the available evidence, thus far, points far more conclusively towards Sad Grandpa and his loutish crew than it does Mittens and his.

(See here for a revealing example of how Team McCain really feels about Sarah Palin -- who only singlehandedly kept him from being completely plowed under electorally, is all -- regardless of whatever they may bleat for public consumption.)

11 posted on 11/07/2008 12:14:33 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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To: screaminsunshine

You must be no older than 16 or a DU troll or both


12 posted on 11/07/2008 12:20:53 AM PST by SoCalPol (In Defeat: Defiance - Churchill)
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To: screaminsunshine

You sadly misjudge the consequences of a single party government, particularly one that is controlled by the Democrats. Can you name one significant federal program that has been abolished in the last fifty years? Programs initiated in the next few years will rapidly become entitlements and anything short of a civil war will not eliminate such programs. Further consider appointments to the Supreme Court.


13 posted on 11/07/2008 12:22:30 AM PST by monocle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

McCain’s silence is deafening. C’mon lets face it, he’s got the biggest ego on the right. That’s why he’s always willing to share it with the left. When he crosses over to work with them again, let him just stay there. He never even came close to hitting Obama as hard as he hits his own party. Sad fact - he takes pleasure in it..Good Bye


14 posted on 11/07/2008 12:30:06 AM PST by Billy Bud (Conservative Leadership - Sarah Has It)
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To: Billy Bud

It is hard to take much issue with that.


15 posted on 11/07/2008 12:40:20 AM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com - www.etpv.org/whatsnew.html)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

16 posted on 11/07/2008 12:46:04 AM PST by tomymind (McCain is my President)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I was once a ‘Mitten’, but will defend Governor Palin with everything I have. I do not approve of ANYONE in the GOP attacking her needlessly. I do not care who they are.
17 posted on 11/07/2008 12:51:11 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: SoCalPol
Romney is a Rino. He was jealous of McCain.
18 posted on 11/07/2008 12:52:07 AM PST by tomymind (McCain is my President)
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To: tallyhoe

Yeah and the scaredey cats won’t even come out in person and say whatever this tripe is—They are afraid of her as they should be—girlfriend will take ‘em to task on the truth—aim, shoot, field dress :-D. More hide to see hangin’ on Alaska walls—LOL.


19 posted on 11/07/2008 12:54:17 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Naw, it wasn’t Romney’s fault. McCain couldn’t find his @$$ with both hands and ran the most inept campaign of my lifetime. He deserved to lose. He was unable to articulate a message that people wanted to hear and had to have Joe the Plumber explain it for him.

Good riddance, John Boy. You screwed the conservatives in the GOP too many times for me to give a good royal $h!t that you’re gone. Next time, let’s put up a candidate that I don’t have to hold my nose to vote for....


20 posted on 11/07/2008 12:54:30 AM PST by freebilly
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To: freebilly

Heck no. Mac’s camp are the ones who leaked the wardrobe story and also the towell story...all kinds of smears.

I would not credit Mitt for Mac’s camp’s slimeballing


21 posted on 11/07/2008 1:05:46 AM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

What the hell???

Quit attacking Romney. He has been more supportive of the ticket than any other candidate by miles.

If anything, Romney should be commended for his actions this year. Had more Republicans and Conservatives dediated themselves as much to the cause we would be enjoying a landslide right now.


22 posted on 11/07/2008 1:57:57 AM PST by Dragonspirit (Always remember President Token won only by defecting on his CFR pledge.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"Look, I was an Independent during the time of Reagan/Bush.
I am not trying to return to Reagan/Bush."

(Mitt Romney, 1994 Senate Debate, Boston, MA, 10/25/94)

"I wasn't a Ronald Reagan conservative."
(Mitt Romney In Interview with Marc Ambinder,
"Romney Explains Himself," National Journal, 2/9/07)

"I'm very clear I think, to the people across the Commonwealth -
my "R" didn't stand so much for Republican as it does for reform.
"
(Romney Video, accessed 9/19/07)

"I'm not running as the Republican view or a continuation of Republican values.
That's not what brings me to the race.
"
(Romney Video, accessed 9/19/07)


Myth Romney: "You will embrace this attack on Gov. Palin
and her little children using Jindal's, McCain's and Huckabee's names
like our attacks on McCain and Thompson using Huckabee's name.
Support it, from our lands and sanctuary mansion in
the north using the fake law enforcement badges we fabricated.
I will gain GOP favor by condemning it and
ordering it opposed from our lands in the south, in the Hive, and with Fox News and the MSM. Whichever way
the tide runs, we will rise."


23 posted on 11/07/2008 5:16:31 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis
Puhleeze -- your Romney quotes are so out of context it's insulting.

The "not trying to return to Reagan/Bush" was in direct response to a debate question which asked if his proposed budget with lower taxes would result in big deficits like occurred under President Reagan.

Can you please toss your hatred of Romney.... especially in light of the drubbing of McCain....

Whatever your feelings about Romney, at least he is articulate and proud to be a Republican and promotes the conservative philosophy in a way which makes sense.

No offense, but it was people like yourself who rejected a good candidate (not saying Romney is the perfect conservative) all for the sake of some dogma which ultimately ends up driving good people out of the GOP.

Heck, if you can accept John McCain who never met a Democratic liberal idea he didn't like, then it makes absolutely no sense on why you can't accept Mitt Romney.

24 posted on 11/07/2008 5:24:48 AM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: Edit35

What do YOU mean by the word “accept”?

Accept that Romney is a liar?
a backstabber?
a shapeshifter?
a liberal socialist?
a Marxist enforcing HillaryCARE=RomneyCARE?


25 posted on 11/07/2008 9:22:19 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
To your question "IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?", the answer is a resounding "no". McCain and his idiot staff bear the sole responsibility for that fiasco.

That said, Romney certainly stands to profit from this, and his minions made sure to tarnish Palin's image pre-election because she's clearly his biggest threat for the 2012 nomination. It would not be a stretch to say that this savaging of Palin's character and capability encouraged the "Palin as scapegoat" reaction from the McCain team after defeat, but whether or not this was an intended outcome or just a bonus for Romney is debatable.

26 posted on 11/07/2008 9:30:59 AM PST by kevkrom (Sarah Palin '12: Reclaim the Narrative! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2126856/posts?page=30)
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To: Diogenesis
What do YOU mean by the word “accept”?

Like..... can you "accept" a call from your therapist before the thought of Mitt Romney drives you over the edge?

27 posted on 11/07/2008 11:45:30 AM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: Edit35
When will Romney or you accept that Romney owes some people (some living, some dead) HIS apology.

Do you accept that? Does he?

MORAL: Myth Romney let the GOP slide, and innocents had to die.



National Guard Lt. Anthony Circosta poses in his backyard in Agawam, Mass., on June 9, 2007.
At left, his wife Danielle and daughter Kylie, 2, talk near the swing set. Circosta,
a decorated Iraq War veteran, seemed like an ideal candidate for a pardon from
then-Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney for the 29-year-old's boyhood conviction
for a BB gun shooting. Romney denied the pardon,
twice, despite the recommendation of the governor's council.


28 posted on 11/07/2008 11:56:41 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
No, the Republican a-holes who voted for McCain in the primaries are responsible.
29 posted on 11/07/2008 12:16:36 PM PST by HenpeckedCon (1/20/13 - Hussein's Last Day!)
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To: tomymind

*Romney is a Rino. He was jealous of McCain*

Also has 5 sons in their 20s - 30s who never served in the military


30 posted on 11/07/2008 12:26:30 PM PST by SoCalPol (In Defeat: Defiance - Churchill)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
All the early GOP turncouts seem to be “Mittens”.

Name some names, please. And while you're at it, cite some evidence that Romney has some control over what this person says.

But even now, Mitt’s people are going after Palin right here on this board.

The 2012 primary season is already begun. It is perfectly reasonable and legitimate, now that the election is over, to ask fair questions about Palin's qualifications to be president.

I agree that the smears about her not knowing the NAFTA trading partners or that Africa is a country are out of bounds. But what evidence do you have that people working for Romney are behind them?

31 posted on 11/09/2008 11:42:01 AM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity
curiosity worked directly on Romney's Campaign
and wants to defend the treason by Romney and his minions
to the GOP, to Conservatives, and to America.

What ever alleged support Romney had on FR (12%) vanished
as Mitt, his BOTs, man-servants, their wives, attacked Gov. Palin and her children.

The Myth-ROMNEYbot WAY

Call everyone discussing Romney's actual history a "liar", "loser", or a "bigot" - check
Ignore Romney's past abdication to Democrats - check
Ignore Romney's appointment of corrupt, liberal pro-criminal judges, overlooking GOP candidates - check
Ignore Romney's ignoring Mass Constitution - check
Ignore Romney's wussiness to criticism using tears and fabricated 'religious persecution' - check
Ignore Romney's use of fake law enforcement officers (caught in two states) - check
Ignore Romney is the MSM's choice because they have files already prepared against him - check
Ignore Romney's coverup of the "Big Dig" for donations - check.
Ignore Romney's bankruptcy of Mass for his HillaryCARE=RomneyCARE - check.
Ignore Romney's targetting of other GOP candidates - check
Ignore Romney's decimation of Mass GOP and that he couldn't win Mass to Hillary -check
Ignore Romney's real impact on Massachusetts - check
Ignore Romney's federal bailout of the Olympics - check
Ignore Romney's begging for a federal bailout of RomneyCARE - check
Ignore Romney's use of the Mormon card or CRYING to defect from his record or criticism - check


Novak: Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign

Said Novak: The rumors were "traced in part to Mitt Romney's campaign,
trying to stir up strife between McCain and Thompson
."

32 posted on 11/12/2008 4:50:27 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
No Mitt is not (and I am not a Mitt fan) W is to blame. BDS was the primary driver in this election.
33 posted on 11/12/2008 5:00:07 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: Diogenesis
curiosity worked directly on Romney's Campaign

Nope. I never worked for them, nor did I ever receive a dime from them.

All I ever did for Romney was donate money to his campaign, up to the legal limit.

I did participate in demonstrations and other activities against gay marriage in massachusetts in 2004 and 2005 while I was a graduate student at MIT, and Romney addressed crowd I was in once.

That about sums up my connections to the Romney.

34 posted on 11/12/2008 9:23:41 AM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Someone in most of the Depts., like VI or VIII, at MIT
would be too smart to fall for likes of WIllard Romney.

So let me guess, XIV or XV?


35 posted on 11/12/2008 11:50:36 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis
Congratulations. You looked at my profile and then searched the MIT website to figure out the course numbers for the economics department and the Sloan School. Very good.

FYI, my Ph.D. is in Finance from the Sloan School.

Some ignorant people like you think we Finance Ph.D.'s are dumber than comp sci and physics Ph.D.'s. That's okay. The fact that we make about 2-3 times the more than those guys more than makes up for it.

BTW, no one who actually went to MIT would ever refer to the physics department as Department VIII. If you want to use numbers, it's COURSE 8.

And FYI, the people on campus who fancy themselves the smartest aren't the course 6 or 8 people, it's the course 18 people.

36 posted on 11/12/2008 2:24:17 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
That may not be Mitt.

A lot of the abuse is from McCain staffers who messed things up and want to cover their tracks.

Some of it is from imposters like "Martin Eisenstadt."

37 posted on 11/12/2008 2:28:14 PM PST by x
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To: curiosity

Despite your false claim, my post NEVER said, "Dept VIII".
Did it?

You made it up, and attacked, just like you do for Romney, your Master.
How like your BS regarding Romney.

Do you make up stuff in XIV and XV, too?

Is that how you make "2-3 times the (sic) more"?

And do you just fear integral equation, too, as well
as you appear to always fear the truth?

It seems that you are misnamed, and have no curiosity at all, for here
you are disingenuous, and so full of ad hominem, too.

I think those "on campus" would probably infer that you fancy yourself the "smartest",
even though there, you are more than a few diplomas short of a full hand.

38 posted on 11/12/2008 2:56:07 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis
Whatever, dude. I've wasted waaaay too much time on you.

At any rate, I'm pretty confident you've been exposed as the irrational, bigoted demagogue that you are.

I have work to do. Publish or perish, you know.

Have a nice life.

39 posted on 11/12/2008 3:01:16 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity

When you don’t have the facts, you keep up the ad hominems.

Pretty lame behavior for anyone of substance at the ‘Tute,
but then you back Romney without foundation, as you insult
FReepers, so it is clear that judgment was never your ‘thing’.


40 posted on 11/12/2008 8:46:33 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Why are you so quick to believe roomers still to this day no one knows who did this.

There is a big difference between roomers and intelligents and so far all that has been going for two years is 98% roomers floating around...


41 posted on 11/19/2008 9:27:32 PM PST by restornu
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

There is a lot of us who tried to tell people here and elsewhere what he was doing and no one wanted to believe it. Fact is we heard from good sources at the time that he was behind Politico dropping the McCain affair story on the NYT back in Februry 2008 and rumors have always been it was his people and Jeb Bush people working inside the McCain camp who went after Palin and tried to destroy her.


42 posted on 05/05/2009 12:52:55 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“watching his flunkies ATTACK Sarah Palin”

You are being played pal. Mitt is innocent.


43 posted on 05/05/2009 3:40:08 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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