Posted on 01/30/2012 1:00:39 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
LUTZ, FLORIDA On the last Sunday before the Florida primary, Newt Gingrich bowed his head at Exciting Idlewild Baptist Church, a megachurch in a suburb north of Tampa. As the remaining Republican candidates scramble to reach as many voters as humanly possible before Tuesday's all-important primary, every chance to preen before a captive audience is a golden opportunity. And no audience is more glued to their seats than devout Christians on a Sunday.
Most parishioners appeared unaware that a celebrity was scheduled to be in their midst. When Gingrich stepped off his bus, reporters formed a swarm that enveloped him as he rushed inside the sanctuary. He walked in quickly, ignoring the media flock as he huddled in close conversation with the church's senior pastor, Ken Whitten. Gingrich made no remarks once inside the church, but he sat in the front center pew where the thousands of congregants could see him sing and sway. When Pastor Whitten recognized Gingrich, the church cameraman blasted a Gingrich close-up on the churchs twin screens. "I want to thank the former speaker of the United States House of Representatives," Whitten said. "Thank you for putting your name on the line. We believe what makes a good Christian makes a good citizen at the same time. So we pray for you, have prayed for you, will continue to pray for you."
Gingrichs choice of megachurchand there are many in Florida to choose fromwas no accident. Idlewild is the kind of congregation this years GOP contenders have been courting. It falls into the tradition of the old-school Southern Baptist churches of the Jerry Falwell days. Many worshippers wouldn't have looked out of place in a slightly modernized version of The Lawrence Welk Show. There may have been no speaking in tongues or convulsing in the aisles (though one elderly gentleman near Gingrich did faint), but there was no doubt that the Baptist crowd was there for old-time religion; the service began with an assistant pastor in white robes booming forth from a recessed pool that glowed with heavenly light from the top of the stage. He proceeded to baptize two children and one middle-aged woman, each asked to declare their devotion to Jesus before they were dunked backward into the cleansing waters. A visiting pastor delivered the day's sermon, focused on the evils of abortion and the righteousness of those who carry pregnancies to term.
Once the hour-long service concluded, a processional formed, not to greet the senior pastor but to shake Gingrich's hand as he stood outside the sanctuary, in front of Exciting Idlewild Baptists Starbucks outlet. Gingrich has spoken often about his spiritual awakening on the campaign trailborn a Southern Baptist, he converted to Catholicism two years ago and got serious about his faith and the redemption it offered for his past personal sins. In South Carolinas primary, he won nearly half of the evangelical vote.
Religion has played an outsize role in Republican politics since evangelical pastors began to encourage their congregations to go forth and campaign in the 1970s, and the 2012 primary has been no exception. Only front-runner Mitt Romneywho each year tithes millions of dollars to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a body many evangelicals view as fake Christianityhas paid little heed to the old vanguards of the religious right. Though Catholic by practice, Rick Santorum's public worship is more akin to the heart-on-your-sleeve spirit of evangelicalism. The culture-warrior won the evangelical old guard's approval when a Texas gathering of 150 endorsed him a few weeks ago. The other candidates, including born-again Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry, the early favorite of evangelical-right leaders, have embraced the personhood movement and pledged to "end Obama's war on religion," a torch Gingrich carried at the last debate.
"One of the reasons I am running is there has been an increasingly aggressive war against religion and in particular against Christianity in this country," Gingrich said, "largely by a secular elite and the academic news media and judicial areas. And I frankly believe it's important to have some leadership that stands up and says, enough."
The tone was different in 2008, when Southern Baptist minister Mike Huckabee struck out in a somewhat new direction. Though he still palled around with the old agents of intolerance and hewed to traditional views on abortion and gay marriage, he also appealed to the Rick Warren sect, the new-style evangelicals who care more about compassion issues related to the poor than demonizing people's sexual acts. Before he moved right to try to capture traditional fundamentalist voters, Huckabee talked about protecting Gods planet against climate change and called for a compassionate approach to immigration. For a moment, it looked as if this might be the new direction for evangelical politics, particularly as younger generationsmore moderate in their social viewsbecame active and replaced the baby boomers stuck in their culture-war mentality.
That time may still come, but it's not here yet; the old vanguard of the religious right remains the prime target for the Republican candidates. From their one-upmanship on opposition to LGBT rights to suggesting churches are a better distributor for social welfare (a favorite line for Ron Paul to refute criticism of his free-market naiveté), this years field has been crowded with Pat Robertson wannabes.
The Reverend Joel C. Hunter, pastor at Central Floridas 12,000-member Northland, a nondenominational megachurch, is part of the new guardand four years ago, he backed Huckabee. He has moved away from Republican politics since, saying, I can't be represented by a party that seems less and less compassionate, more and more accusatory." He still believes that social-justice issues, which transcend partisan divides, will increasingly move evangelical voters. This year, though, he believes the countrys economic distress made people of all faiths look inward, rather than outward toward broader social and political horizons.
"There's enough economic uncertainty that it raises the level of alarm and fear to where you just start thinking about mostly your own group," Hunter says. "It's the easiest route to popularity and subcultural unity to find an enemy." Which is precisely what Newt I Hate Food Stamps Gingrich is banking on.
Give me that old time religion. It’s good enough for me!
Tis the old time religion,
[or Give me that old time religion]
Tis the old time religion,
Tis the old time religion,
And its good enough for me.
It was good for our mothers.
It was good for our mothers.
It was good for our mothers.
And its good enough for me.
Refrain
Makes me love everybody.
Makes me love everybody.
Makes me love everybody.
And its good enough for me.
Refrain
It has saved our fathers.
It has saved our fathers.
It has saved our fathers.
And its good enough for me.
Refrain
It will do when I am dying.
It will do when I am dying.
It will do when I am dying.
And its good enough for me.
Refrain
It will take us all to heaven.
It will take us all to heaven.
It will take us all to heaven.
And its good enough for me.
Refrain
http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/o/l/oldtimer.htm
Zerodamus or Newtodamus... I fail to see the hard choice..
Willard is just a paper shuffler.. and Santorum is just a good ol boy...
And Paul is a Political Tourettes victim with good ideas, but given to fits...
No really hard choice I can see..
I'm with you.
I decided on Newt about two months ago, and I have no remorse, and I’m not disaapointed. Once youre in, and you listen to him, you grow in admiration for him. I know you were for Perry. He’s a good man too. So hopefully Newt is working on you too.
All the other critics from Malkin to Coulter etc are mired in the Newt’s past.
BUT WHAT REALLY IMPRESSED ME THE MOST, WAS WHEN I LEARNED THE LAST WEEKEND BEFORE THE PRIMARY SC, THAT NEWT WAS VISITING A BLACK CHURCH. I’M THINKING FIRST OFF, NO OTHER CANDIDATE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT SINCE IN SC, BLACKS ARE LESS THAN 2% OF THE VOTE. HE WENT THERE TO TALK TO THEM...AND THEN IT CAME OUT IN THE DEBATE.
For many people, the answer he gave Juan Williams that night was the defining moment in his campaign.
I was hoping that he was ready to give a defining answer on a moon colony at the last debate, but he didn’t.
If he can eeek out a win here in Florida, it will be the greatest comeback in political history, at least in my life time.
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/30/10271899-to-the-moon-its-not-that-loony
And that is a BASE, not a colony.
Sanctimonium called it crass politics, not-so-fineman said it was one of the things gone wrong with the Gingrich campaign, Willard I-like-firing-people Romney said, as President, he would fire anybody who bought to him an idea about a moon base...
The only problem with those 3 idiots - and others - is this:
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpps/news/russia-us-moon-base-nasa-dpgonc-20110119-to-_17194074
(excerpt): “Russia is talking with the US and Europe on plans to create a manned research base on the moon, the head of the Russian space agency Roscosmos said Thursday.
Roscosmos is discussing the possibilities for a permanent moon base with officials from NASA and the European Space Agency, the agency’s chief, Vladimir Popovkin said.
“We don’t want man to just step on the moon,” Popovkin told Vesti FM radio station, according to the Ria Novosti news agency. “Today, we know enough about it, we know that there is water in its polar areas ... we are now discussing how to begin [the moon’s] exploration with NASA and the European Space Agency.”
He said the plan was either to set up a base on the moon or launch a station to orbit around it.
Russia also is planning to send two unmanned mission to the moon by 2020, Popovkin said.” (end excerpt)
China moonbase 2002: http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/22/181737.shtml
it’s sad when you’re so stupid, so ambitious, such a liar - or all 3 - that you don’t even know what the heck is going on in the world outside your little self-encrusted bubble...
I’m praying that we’re not tempted to fall for the tactics that try to depress voter turnout.
That’s the difference between the two.
Newt is encouraging.
Romney is discouraging.
Error and Truth went swimming. Error got out first and stole Truth’s clothes.
Truth got out and had no clothes. That’s why it’s called the Naked Truth!
Emperor Romney has no clothes.
correction:
Emperor Romney has no clothes BUT pretends to be the naked truth!
I'm going with Larry this time, 'cause Curly and Mo just don't do it for me, anymore.
Huck is such a phony. When a man leaves his “calling” for money and/or power, his “calling” wasn’t real. And that includes a lot of mega preachers.
I have no idea what the h*ll youre talking about..with all due respect. Are you for or against Newt... that’s the bottom line.
What I am talking about is when Newt spoke at Cocoa Beach, FL, home of the late space program, he talked about America setting as a goal a manned based on the moon by 2020... Howard Fineman said that moon base idea was why Newt would lose Fl, Santorium said it was crass politics pandering to the people of FL, and Romney said he would fire anybody in the WH whoever bought him such a stupid idea... and it all was tied together with the newt is erratic, grandiose, etc...
My point was, this wasn’t some flight of fancy of Newt’s, it is a reality already in motion, and the above were talking about it like something Newt thought up because he read too many sci-fi books as a kid, someone actually said that - Newt must have read too many sci-fi books as a kid. My point - as far back as 2002 knowledgable people have been talking about a manned moon base, and are actually starting to initiate it. Newt is not the crazy one, the others all ill-informed, ignorant and mean.
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