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To: sourcery
Per the 14th Amendment, "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States"

People "born in the United States" are born to parents who are either citizens or aliens.

Which citizens "born in the United States" are "natural born citizens", the children of citizens or the children of aliens? Or both?

Article II explicitly requires a difference between "citizen" and "natural born citizen"

If the citizenship of the parents is not the determining factor between "citizen" and "natural born citizen", I want to know what that factor is.

Absent any other plausible claim as to what is the determining factor between "citizen" and "natural born citizen", the answer must be that "natural born citizen" means citizens born from citizen parents since it would be irrational to grant to the children of aliens, and deny to the children of citizens, the privilege of eligibility for the Office of President.

Until there is a plausible claim as to what factor other than the citizenship of the parents determines between "citizen" and "natural born citizen", the "US birth = natural born" position is absurd.

This from Merriam-Webster is also worth notice: Natural - begotten as distinguished from adopted; being a relation by actual consanguinity as distinguished from adoption (emphasis added)

85 posted on 04/11/2012 10:05:09 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: Ray76

I may work that reasoning in the next version of the essay. Thanks.


87 posted on 05/22/2012 12:54:27 PM PDT by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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