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‘Green light’ to see Obama’s Hawaii files [It's about time !]
WND ^ | January 31, 2012 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 01/31/2012 6:43:27 PM PST by RobinMasters

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To: JohnnyP

Yeah, it’s a completely nonsensical comment.


61 posted on 02/01/2012 7:42:52 AM PST by edge919
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To: Round 9

1st birth certificate proved to be fake. 2nd birth certificate is multi-layered. 3rd certificate is similar in appearance to 2nd but now has been compressed to 1 layer.

Wonder what the 4th certificate has to offer?


62 posted on 02/01/2012 7:45:58 AM PST by freebird5850 (Of course Obama loves his country...it's just that Newt loves mine!)
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To: JohnnyP

Guthrie’s claim is meaningless. She’s the only reporter who claims to have seen one of the two alleged hard copies while everyone else in the presser was provided with a photocopy of the alleged hard copies or they saw what everyone else saw, which was the layered PDF. There’s no explanation as to why she would have direct access, but no one else. And just because she says she felt a raised seal doesn’t mean that it’s a proper, genuine embossed seal. She doesn’t say that she compared it to a known genuine birth certificate or that she compared it with DOH’s official description of the seal.


63 posted on 02/01/2012 7:48:17 AM PST by edge919
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To: edge919; butterdezillion

I misspoke. BZ shows the “Savanah seal” here:

http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/obama-bc-seal-contradicts-factcheck.pdf

It’s not the size that matters (oops), it’s that the seal doesn’t have any words. It’s just raised dots. Can’t be real.


64 posted on 02/01/2012 8:44:41 AM PST by JohnnyP
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To: JohnnyP

Actually, size does matter. At least when it comes to the official HDOH seal. lol.

There are 2 different seals they use: the registrar’s seal for computer-generated abbreviated BC’s (which is smaller and has dots between the upper and lower words) and the official HDOH seal for standard (non-computer-generated) copies(which is 2 1/4” in diameter and has stars between the upper and lower words).


65 posted on 02/01/2012 12:44:47 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: JohnnyP
BZ says the “raised seal” that Savanah Guthrie felt is not the same size as a genuine HDOH seal.

It’s not a replacement, it’s a forgery.

That is one possible conclusion. I wouldn't assume it is proven just yet. If the document shows up in court at some point, then we can challenge the size of the seal. Till then, we have no one swearing under penalty of perjury that the document we are seeing is the real Hawaiian certified document.

66 posted on 02/02/2012 6:16:43 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: wingtip
Keep hammering “The State of Hawaii” and “Refusal to release certified....” Remind people that these documents are required for basic everyday proofs such as little league baseball, drivers license and passport applications.

I think this is a very good point, but it is difficult to see how it will play with the public. Back in 2008, I thought it was ridiculous that people were okay with that COLB he produced. It wasn't just the Voting population at large, it was my own D@mned side! Conservative pundit after conservative pundit said "We don't need to see no stinkin Birth certificates!"

I was incredulous. I kept thinking "What is the MATTER with you people?"

So like I say, it looks like a good idea to me, but based on how so many conservatives acted in 2008, what do *I* know? :)

67 posted on 02/02/2012 6:20:44 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
"What is the MATTER with you people?"

"We like 0bama. We don't care about any 'constitutional eligibility. He's being attacked by people we don't like. We want to make sure that we assuage our guilt (if we're white) or stick up for the brother (if we're black), so we will defend him at all costs without regard to rationality or sanity."

Got it?

68 posted on 02/02/2012 6:24:04 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: RobinMasters
Many of his critics, however, say the birth documentation doesn’t matter, because Obama’s father never was a U.S. citizen.

Those that don't say that are either dumbed-down-Americans or smarmy collaborative traitors.

69 posted on 02/02/2012 6:24:36 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: MrB
"We like 0bama. We don't care about any 'constitutional eligibility. He's being attacked by people we don't like. We want to make sure that we assuage our guilt (if we're white) or stick up for the brother (if we're black), so we will defend him at all costs without regard to rationality or sanity."

Got it?

There is an aspect of it that you left out. Many voters are just sheep, led around by the nose through the media's (All Liberal Union Democrats from Liberal States) manipulation of the information they are allowed to see.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2012/01/31/new-yorks-heilemann-no-person-eyes-could-miss-media-propelling-obama-vic

70 posted on 02/02/2012 7:37:04 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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