it's not enough to hit the government trough lottery, it has to be gold plated too???
Posted on 01/31/2012 7:04:13 PM PST by SmithL
California state and local government employees remain among the highest-paid in the nation, according to revised 2010 data released this month by the U.S. Census Bureau.
Full-time monthly pay for March 2010 in the District of Columbia averaged $5,900, followed by California at $5,774 and New Jersey' s $5,540. Nationally, the average pay for full-time state and local public employees was $4,388 for the March 2010 period sampled by the bureau.
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Some of you out there are getting straight up ripped off.
I know simple rank and file cops who retire at 50 years old with $75,000 per year in life retirement, with top shelf medical benefits for life with the wife covered too. Others on the fire departments and other police departments retire on $90,000+++ per year for life, in their early 50s.
No joke.
While others in the private sector now find themselves in their fifties and sixties, with *NO* retirement, *no* or slashed medical benefits, cut hours etc,..If they still have jobs left. And fatgov is basically telling them to plan on working until they drop dead.
Government at all levels is choking the U.S. off, and will eventually leave America dead on the floor, broke and bankrupt.
Due to the fact government employees and government retirees are EVERYWHERE...They got theirs, the rest of you can eat cheet.
Pffft, Ortiz, The State Propaganda mouthpiece at the Bee.
it's not enough to hit the government trough lottery, it has to be gold plated too???
See #3.
Everyone knows this is all too real.
“Some of you out there are getting straight up ripped off.”
I knew NJ would be up there; it is truly scandalous how our bloated bureaucratic parasites have fastened themselves to the taxpayers’ backs. Many corporations and the taxpayers they employ are fleeing; the state is in a steep decline due to the overhead of our parasitic gubmint employee class. Within a generation there will be nothing left here except illegal aliens, the permanent underclass, and the gubmint workers required to clothe, house, feed, and school them. Not exactly a viable tax base...
“While others in the private sector now find themselves in their fifties and sixties, with *NO* retirement, *no* or slashed medical benefits, cut hours etc,..If they still have jobs left. And fatgov is basically telling them to plan on working until they drop dead.”
That’s right; they have to keep on working to pay those huge retirement packages to people who retired twenty years earlier. In NJ this has also contributed to our housing crisis; nobody wants to buy homes with $8K+ in property taxes (for very modest homes), so the private sector employee who can’t make those tax payments on their retirement income are forced to keep working or lose the home to a tax lien. In addition, those taxes prevent many rational people from investing additional funds in their home, as the old adage that you would make it back upon selling it doesn’t even apply anymore; the result is an aging population living in decaying homes, while the younger people who haven’t committed to a mortgage here flee behind the employers that are fed up with the tax burden.
A town a few miles to the north of me had their police chief and a captain retire; they had to work out a three-year payment plan for their UNUSED SICK TIME ($550,000) - this is on top of the pensions they will receive ($127K annually for the chief alone).
In NJ government workers tend to cluster and intermarry; most people resent them, they can’t relate to anything in terms of work that the average taxpayer deals with, so they live as a privileged class apart.
That is exactly what is occurring all over the U.S., and most are waking up to this travesty created by ever growing, controlling government, at all levels.
That is a chilling analysis. It is as if you pay ever increasing rent to NJ for the privilege of shelter.
Was I right or was I right?
“That is a chilling analysis. It is as if you pay ever increasing rent to NJ for the privilege of shelter.”
The worst part is the inability to get out; even if you’re not “underwater”, home prices are so low (several houses for sale within sight of each other on many streets) you can only do well if you bought your house 40 years ago. There is simply no demand for homes where your monthly property tax bill is like a rent payment ON TOP OF the mortgage payment.
Totally agree.....
You were right; I just assumed it was because there were few people left in CA (or NJ, for that matter) that understood enough English to contribute to the thread...
I will probably never see a dime of that. And I've never used an hour of it.
I'm healthy, and pretty fit.
I'd love to hear that I could get paid for my unused hours.
Always has been a rock in my gullet...
Of course I work for a private company.....
“I will probably never see a dime of that. And I’ve never used an hour of it.”
Where I work we use it or lose it (sick & vacation were combined into personal time years ago). I’m trying to use it up a day here, a day there, but not the way I’ve been forced to until recently: to get a day off I’d work 4 12-hours days.
The idea that these people are padding their retirements on the backs of the people who already pay them (with few such perks themselves) is disturbing; these municipalities/states are “kicking the can down the road” in such a way that whoever ends up holding the “hot potatoes” (the properties) will end up being bankrupted when it all collapses. Nobody wants to buy a home where buying it means buying a piece of the massive (hidden) debt. This will get worse as the increased property taxes push an increasing number of people above the Alternative Minimum Tax threshold - the tax deduction for the mortgage interest & taxes will in no way offset the tax burden itself.
California was furious as their financial state became public knowledge, because it basically warned off any individuals and corporations that didn’t want to get financially sodomized.
But your last point was one of them.....
I will forfeit my "sick" days...when I leave. It sucks, but that is how it is. I and others like me...ought to be rewarded for not taking sick days. But, that's the way in many companies these days.
Companies have to report the liability of sick days and the like that have to be paid, and it must be disclosed and factored into their bottom line (effecting stock prices); they rid themselves of that.
Government entities, on the other hand, don’t have share prices (Imagine if they did? It should be calculated and publicized). To the government there will always be funding through tax levies, and that is precisely why some of them are folding; in NJ we just lost a House seat, I believe NY lost at least one, and I’m unsure of how many California lost. The bond rating is one of the best things somebody contemplating a move can use to determine whether or not they’ll be set upon once they’ve committed (I’d use voter registration and demographic info as well, but we’re not supposed to admit that); I’d even apply that logic to the US bond rating being cut recently.
Private companies don’t have to do anything like that....
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