Allow me to be clear. We Will Not Comply!
Posted on 02/01/2012 3:55:45 AM PST by Kaslin
President Obama and his radical feminist enforcers have had it in for Catholic medical providers from the get-go. It's about time all people of faith fought back against this unprecedented encroachment on religious liberty. First, they came for the Catholics. Who's next?
This weekend, Catholic bishops informed parishioners of the recent White House edict forcing religious hospitals, schools, charities and other health and social service providers to provide "free" abortifacient pills, sterilizations and contraception on demand in their insurance plans -- even if it violates their moral consciences and the teachings of their churches.
NARAL, NOW, Ms. Magazine and the Feminist Majority Foundation all cheered the administration's abuse of the Obamacare law to ram abortion down pro-life medical professionals' throats. Femme dinosaur Eleanor Smeal gloated over the news that the administration had rejected church officials' pleas for compromises: "At last," she exulted, the left's goal of "no-cost birth control" for all had been achieved.
As always, tolerance is a one-way street in the Age of Obama. "Choice" is in the eye (and iron fist) of the First Amendment usurper.
Like the rising number of states who have revolted against the individual health care mandate at the ballot box and in the courts, targeted Catholics have risen up against the Obamacare regime. Arlington (Va.) Bishop Paul Loverde didn't mince words, calling the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services order "a direct attack against religious liberty. This ill-considered policy comprises a truly radical break with the liberties that have underpinned our nation since its founding." Several bishops vowed publicly to fight the mandate.
Bishop Alexander Sample of Marquette, Mich., asserted plainly: "We cannot -- we will not -- comply with this unjust law."
It's not just rabid right-wing politicos defying the Obama machine. Pro-life Democratic Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania denounced the "wrong decision." Left-leaning Bishop Robert Lynch threatened "civil disobedience" in St. Petersburg, Fla., over the power grab. Lefty Washington Post columnist E.J. Dionne wrote that Obama "botched" the controversy and "threw his progressive Catholic allies under the bus" by refusing to "balance the competing liberty interests here."
White House press secretary Jay Carney blithely denied on Tuesday that "there are any constitutional rights issues" involved in the brewing battle. Yet, the Shut Up and Hand Out Abortion Pills order undermines a unanimous Supreme Court ruling issued just last week upholding a religious employer's right to determine whom to hire and fire. And two private colleges have filed federal suits against the government to overturn the unconstitutional abortion coverage decree.
Hannah Smith, senior counsel at the nonprofit law firm The Becket Fund, which is representing the schools, boiled it down for Bloomberg News: "This is not really about access to contraception. The mandate is about forcing these religious groups to pay for it against their beliefs."
How did we get here? The first salvo came in December 2010, when the American Civil Liberties Union pushed HHS and its Planned Parenthood-championing secretary, Kathleen Sebelius, to force Catholic hospitals to perform abortions in violation of their core moral commitment to protecting the lives of the unborn.
The ACLU called for a litigious fishing expedition against Catholic hospitals nationwide that refuse to provide "emergency" contraception and abortions to women. In their sights: Devout Phoenix Catholic Bishop Thomas Olmsted, who revoked the Catholic status of a rogue hospital that performed several direct abortions, provided birth control pills and presided over sterilizations against the church's ethical and religious directives for health care.
The ACLU and the feminists have joined with Obama to threaten and sabotage the First Amendment rights of religious-based health care entities. The agenda is not increased "access" to health care services. The ultimate goal is to shut down health care providers -- Catholic health care institutions employ about 540,000 full-time workers and 240,000 part-time workers -- whose religious views cannot be tolerated by secular zealots and radical social engineers.
Is it any surprise their counterparts in the "Occupy" movement have moved from protesting "Wall Street" to harassing pro-life marchers in Washington, D.C., and hurling condoms at Catholic school girls in Rhode Island? Birds of a lawless, bigoted feather bully together.
Let's see.
There has been a systematic war on the major concepts here. First, for forty years, that there is, indeed, a 'Creator' as prayer was removed from public schools.
Since Roe v Wade, on life itself. Liberty follows, and the 'pursuit of happiness' isn't far behind.
You wouldn’t expect much else from the “prince of this world” and his followers, now would you?
Obama is serving his Master.
I agree. But there are many, including some here who glory in the destruction of people ho embrace core Conservative values, and others who wouldn't recognize Liberty if they tripped over it. Rights are not rights unless they are Rights for everyone, and they need to be defended vigorously in principle whether we agree with the particulars or not.
I agree with the exception being abortion and homosexual marriage. There are reasonable accommodations on both, though.
Actually, it's SIEG Heil.
What spew.
Many of the TEA party activists here ARE Catholic. Save your feces for the proper receptacle, you are part of the problem.
Fishing and farming and logging aren't religions (although fishing comes close).
The Catholic stance on abortion and homosexual marriage has not changed, despite the rampant actions of the Marxists to push that. Several denominations have waffled on those issues, and others have given in.
Fishing, farming, and logging aren't fundamental Rights.
Allow me to be clear. We Will Not Comply!
Check spelling when making posters. Nobody wants to look like this idiot:
The Church is now finally waking up & remembering the old saying :When you lie down with dogs don’t be surprised if you get up with fleas. Sadly I think it might be to late as the church & its leadership don’t quite understand that they are dealing with a govt. that is without honor ,respect for the rule of law ,& generally views the Constitution as toilet paper and the citizens as chattel property.
The people to blame for this shameful state of affairs are the citizens of this nation who have not been paying attention to what the hell has been going on & those of us who have been paying attention for not sounding the alarm in such a fashion as the prevent this horrendous situation from developing.
That having been said let us redouble our efforts to enlighten our fellow citizens to what the totalitarians that we have foolishly elected are really doing & redouble our efforts to restore liberty to this nation .
It will be a long & tiring struggle we must steel ourselves for a long insurgency we must each in his or her own way strive to light brush fires of LIBERTY in the minds of our fellow countrymen because if freedom & liberty die out here in the United States there isn’t anywhere else to run to .
I agree that it's spew, but it's not mine. Nothing I have said has not been backed up by official documents from the Vatican. All emphases are mine.
These demands concern above all the commitment to peace, the organization of the State's powers, a sound juridical system, the protection of the environment, and the provision of essential services to all, some of which are at the same time human rights: food, housing, work, education and access to culture, transportation, basic health care, the freedom of communication and expression, and the protection of religious freedom[350]. Nor must one forget the contribution that every nation is required in duty to make towards a true worldwide cooperation for the common good of the whole of humanity and for future generations also[351].
Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church, Chapter Four, II(b) pp166.
168. The responsibility for attaining the common good, besides falling to individual persons, belongs also to the State, since the common good is the reason that the political authority exists[355].
Chapter Four (II)(c)
The Church's social teaching proposes the goal of “general, balanced and controlled disarmament”.[1067]
Chapter 11 (II)(e) titled "Disarmament"
510. Disarmament must include the banning of weapons that inflict excessively traumatic injury or that strike indiscriminately. This includes anti- personnel landmines, a type of small arm that is inhumanly insidious because it continues to cause harm even long after the cessation of hostilities. States that produce them, sell them and continue to use them are responsible for seriously delaying the total elimination of these death-dealing weapons.[1075]
ibid
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/justpeace/documents/rc_pc_justpeace_doc_20060526_compendio-dott-soc_en.html#The specification of rights
I agree that many individual Roman Catholics. The Roman Catholic hierarchs . . . not so much.
It isn’t about Rick Santorum or Mitt Romney it is about a citizenry that is so debauched that it elected totalitarian to the highest office in the nation & is still hasn’t got enough of a clue to realize that the bastard in the White House is driven by a white hot passion to make the American citizenry slaves to the government/corrupt political class.
Both REPUBLICAN & DEMOCRAT parties are working for the same goal. YOU THE CITIZEN AS PROPERTY OF THE POLITICAL CLASS.
If this were not the case then at least one party would fighting like hell to stop the enslavement of this nations people.
I have lately been referring to POTUS, Barack Hussein Obama as a “Muslim Brotherhood Lover or...Muslim Brotherhood Adoree”!!! I want to amend that address as of today and will refer to Obama as POTUS Barack Hussein “Hitler” Obama, a title that suits Obama to a tee, IMHO!!! Obama is certainly no Christian, he is certainly no American. How any American who calls themselves religious, Christian, Jew or otherwise can ever support this despot, tyrant, dictator, Obama is beyond objective comprehension. What Obama wants is total control and absolute power!!! Americans, “all”, you best wake-up, your nation and freedoms are slipping away from you with each passing day!!! Sad!!!
They can drag this Catholic away by his cold-dead-fingers.
That goes for any scenario you can think of.
Keep. It. Simple. Stupid.
“Live Free or Die”
Count me as one!
I’m about as free market capitalist as you get.
Here's one from Pope Leo XIII that you apparently have never stumbled across.
You understand, venerable brethren, that We speak of that sect of men who, under various and almost barbarous names, are called socialists, communists, or nihilists, and who, spread over all the world, and bound together by the closest ties in a wicked confederacy, no longer seek the shelter of secret meetings, but, openly and boldly marching forth in the light of day, strive to bring to a head what they have long been planning - the overthrow of all civil society whatsoever.
It is hard. My employers provides me excellent insurance and I have a life-time kidney condition that while latent now, can go boom at any time in my life (I’m hoping post 70+).
To abandon it would be financial suicide, as I would have to buy my own for much more expensive, and I am already at my limits living in Manhattan.
Yes, have been thinking about a transfer to our Colorado office, where at my current salary (which they will not geographically pro-rate down), I would truly live like a King. But that brings with it a whole other set of problems.
There is nothing in the statement to support that contention, the statement is only concerned with indiscriminate and excessively maiming devices, which might include as well IEDs, car bombs, and little kids wearing bomb vests.
In The Law of Land Warfare, Dept. of the Army, FM27-10 (7/56), we also (in Ch.2 Section III) note there are treaty provisions which limit the means used against beligerants, including restrictions on the use of projectiles designed to produce severe wounding (such as hollow point bullets), fire, poison gas, etc. That any church might seek to limit the use by international convention of weapons which do not discriminate between civillians and beligerants is not out of bounds, nor is it necessarily opposed to the Second Amendment and the individual right to keep and bear arms.
The responsibility for attaining the common good, besides falling to individual persons, belongs also to the State, since the common good is the reason that the political authority exists
We have the phrase "Provide for the general welfare" in our Constitution, too, but that doesn't mean the forcible removal of wealth from those who have earned it and redistribution by any entity.
The Church urges parishoners to give, to tend to the needs of those less fortunate, but Jesus did the same. (For so as you have done for the least of these, you have done for me). It is the establishment of political authority which enables the stability which permits the free and unfettered giving of our prosperity to help those less well off. (...That to secure these Rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed...)
If the State is as it should be, subservient to the People, then we ultimately decide what level, if any, is appropriate. If we disagree with the actions of our servants, it is up to us to replace them.
Keep in mind that in Europe, until the last century for the most part, the Monarch was responsible for the well being of their subjects. We, on the other hand, are a unique case; freed from subservience to monarchy, we are left to choose our own level of obligation to the poor, infirm, and orphaned.
We do so by either individually giving to charity or individuals or by empowering our government to take from us and distribute that.
Any failing there is not the fault of the Church, but the American People.
1. You did not address the Church’s position on universal disarmament.
2. I am currently serving in the military (NG, but I spend 25% of my time called up on AD). Landmines are essential to us. Without them, more of us will die. Rome can stick their opinion of how we fight where the sun don’t shine.
3. Providing for the general welfare is not defined and, as you say, is left to the people. The RC document cited *defines* the common good as the provision of jobs, food, housing and, yes, health care, to every single individual and states that individuals and the state are *required* to provide these to all individuals because those things are “human rights.” There is a massive difference between us voting ourselves stupid and the hierarchs in the RC church telling us that we *must* do these things.
I’m Eastern Orthodox and our bishops have as many problems as yours. I’ve never understood why RCs are so stubborn in not acknowledging what their bishops incorrectly and flagrantly espouse.
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