Skip to comments.Obama continues ban on importation of 600,000 historical, collectible M1 Carbine rifles;
Posted on 02/01/2012 10:12:44 AM PST by marktwain
The Korea Times is reporting that while it has will allow 86,000 historical M1 Garand rifles to be imported from South Korea, the Obama administration continues to block the importation of some 600,000 M1 Carbines because "they come with a magazine that can carry multiple rounds."
From the article:
Washington has agreed to allow the importation of M1 Garand rifles from Seoul, reversing its earlier decision to ban the shipping of the weapon used by South Korean and U.S. soldiers during the 1950-53 Korean War, a senior defense official said Wednesday.
"The U.S. government approved the imports of some 86,000 of the rifles," said Lee Sun-chul, deputy defense minister for force and resources management.
"The historic firearms are expected to be sold to American Korean War veterans and their families in time for the 62nd anniversary of the Korean War, which falls on June 25 this year."
Kim Mi-sung, an official of the force and resources management office, said the defense ministry received an approval letter from the United States on Sept. 2 last year that stated Washington agreed to allow the importation of the M1s.
She noted that the U.S. government, however, rejected Seouls proposal to export some 600,000 M1 Carbines, which were also used in the Korean War, as they come with a magazine that can carry multiple rounds unlike the Garands.
This latest development comes more than 16 months after Fox News first reported that Obama had banned the importation of the vintage, collectible rifles. At the time, a State Department spokesman told reporters the administration's decision was based on concerns that the guns could "potentially be exploited by individuals seeking firearms for illicit purposes."
When the ban was first announced, Dennis Henigan of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence said "guns that can take high-capacity magazines are a threat to public safety," said "Even though they are old, these guns could deliver a great amount of firepower. So I think the Obama administration's concerns are well-taken."
Ironically, the "firepower," as Henigan calls it, of the M1 Garand, which is chambered in .30-06 Springfield, is far stronger than that of the reduced-power .30 caliber cartridge used in the banned M1 Carbine. But in the ignorant world of the Brady Campaign, a multiple-round magazine filled with what a postwar U.S. Army evaluation concluded was an ineffective cartridge is to be feared more than a cartridge that was developed for when shots of 1000 yards were expected, and which was heavily used by military snipers.
Again, from The Korea Times:
In February last year, U.S. Sen. Jon Tester and Rep. Cynthia Lummis proposed bills for an amendment of the Arms Export Control Act to guarantee that U.S.-made military firearms classified as "curios and relics" will not be blocked from importation.
The legislations allow firearms more than 50 years old, considered antiques or relics and lawfully possessed by a foreign government, to be imported into the United States through properly licensed groups and sold without written permission from the U.S. State or Defense Departments.
Although the Garands have received tentative approval, the article goes on to say a senior defense ministry official raised the possibility that the U.S. government may cancel the plan to allow the purchase the M1s, saying Seoul has yet to finalize negotiations with Washington.
"We have yet to receive confirmation from the United States over our proposal," he said. "The U.S. government may change its position at the last minute due to political considerations."
Chad D. Baus is the Buckeye Firearms Association Vice Chairman.
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As David Horowitz said, the issue is never the issue. The issue is always the "revolution".
Korea can hold onto them until Obama is out of office and then sell them in the US of A.
Before I moved to my new home in Kentucky from Seattle, I went to a seattle range to do some test firing. It was surprisingly accurate without a scope at 100 yards. It came with a ten round magazine for $106. I bought it when I was concerned Clinton would ban guns. It was also legal to purchase a 20 round magazine for an extra $15, so I did.
What’s the big deal, they can just have Holder arrange for some Mexican mobsters to bring them to our shores...
Good thinking. Wouldn't want them going to Mexican drug lords.
They used to sell them at Sears
He doesn't want black people to be able to protect themselves.
Romney will ban every gun he can. His presidency will seal the fate of the 2nd Amendment, once again having the evil come from within our ranks.
Wait a sec. They allow the importation of the M1 Garand because it doesn’t have a magazine, but I got the following from here: http://www.minutemanreview.com/2008/09/clip-vs-magazine-lesson-in-firearm.html
“A magazine is what is used to feed the weapon itself, whereas a clip is used to feed the magazine. Clips make loading of magazines much easier and faster, and in some cases, a clip is required in order for the magazine to work (e.g. M1 Garand).”
So, which is it?
Are they afraid that these guns might end up in the hands of Mexican drug gangs? Then let Americans buy them and keep them away from either the BATFE or the Justice Department. And what is the point of disallowing rifles with magazines? All of my semi-autos have them. Maybe I need to buy more.
10 and 20 round magazines for the Carbine must be special.
All I’ve ever had were 15 and 30.
No President can ban guns: only Congress can make laws and the Supreme Court has made it very clear that their authority is severely constrained by the 2nd Amendment. States can regulate firearms, but only up to a point. It doesn’t really matter though, because we’re not going to surrender them voluntarily anyway.
No, mine’s an SKS. Chinese made with mostly Russian 7.62 ammo.
“No, mines an SKS. Chinese made with mostly Russian 7.62 ammo.”
I believe that the discussion is on the M1 Carbine.
—I believe that the discussion is on the M1 Carbine.—
Yeah. I was just mentioning it because I believe they also made it illegal after I bought it. I thought of it as “related”.
Do you think Romney will change the policy banning these weapons?
I would like 5 copies.
didnt sears actually produce some of em ???