Japan: Temperature Soars Mysteriously Inside Fukushima Nuclear Reactor

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Temperature Soars Mysteriously Inside Fukushima Nuclear Reactor

Updated: Monday, 06 Feb 2012, 9:22 AM EST

Published : Monday, 06 Feb 2012, 9:22 AM EST

By NewsCore

TOKYO - The temperature of a reactor at Japan's stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant has soared and remained mysteriously high Monday, despite more water being pumped through it.

The facility's No.2 reactor had reached 164 degrees Fahrenheit (73.3 degrees Celsius) by Monday morning, after sitting at 113 degrees Fahrenheit (45 degrees Celsius) on Jan. 27, broadcaster NHK reported.

That was despite Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) officials pumping 9.6 tonnes (10.6 tons) of water through the reactor each hour -- about 10 percent more than before.

[TigerLikesRooster]

In financial world, the operating word is "unexpectedly" instead of "mysteriously." :-)

[TigerLikesRooster]

P!

[unkus]

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[ZOOKER]

Good comparison, finance and Fukushima.

Unknown factors, unintended consequences, and that oh-so-hopeful "illusion of Control"...

[sefarkas]

Pumping more water through the system and the on-going decay of radioisotopes yet the water temperature increases? Heat has to come from somewhere. More exothermic reaction with concrete? Thermo-couple instrument damage? Increased pressure in the reactor system? 164 DEGF is still way below boiling point at sea-level atmospheric pressure. The story does not make sense. Something is getting lost in the translation from Japanese to English.

[muawiyah]

Kevmo, you might want to follow this particular story. Has a familiar theme eh!

Maybe we are dealing with some previously undisclosed LENR processes involving some of the common radionuclides produced in this sort of reactor.

I say "undisclosed" because it's not believable that as long as the hot fission reactors have been belching out their share of radioactive wastes that the physicists presiding over that branch of science missed something like the unexpected production of heat!

[InvisibleChurch]

Heat going up around a damaged nuclear reactor? That’s hardly mysterious.

[muawiyah]

The increased heat was coincident with a 10% increase in coolant water flow.

That's mysterious. Frightening in fact. Water is supposed to cool them down!

[Art in Idaho]

Does anyone have any reliable 'real' data about how much actual radiation the mainland US received from the Japanese nuclear disaster? There were some preliminary reports about radiation received on the West Coast, but then the whole issue just fell off the radar - as near as I can tell. Any people in the industry care to comment on this?

[TigerLikesRooster]

I came across some story speculating that recriticality is in progress.

[bgill]

There were some preliminary reports about radiation received on the West Coast, but then the whole issue just fell off the radar

Gee, imagine that. In other news, the economy is making great strides and the government is creating jobs.

I was watching a site for months that supposedly checked radiation levels around the US and Japan and you know what? The minute to minute reports showed zilch, nada, nothing, absolutely no rise anywhere...

[Revel]

The did find elevated levels in things like Milk. Even on the east coast. There was also a dramatic rise in birth defects on the west coast.

One of the things that will not show up with radiation detectors are the presence of just a few hot particles in the air. If you breath in one then it gets stuck in you, and exposes you for the long run. It was claimed that these had been found in various air filters here in the US.

[justa-hairyape]

Supposedly they changed the plumbing. The geniuses did not realize what cold winter weather would due to plumbing around their "cold shutdown" reactors. Numerous leaks and breaks due to plumbing problems caused them to install a new water injection plumbing route into #2. They believe that was the cause, at least that is what they thought, until they noticed that more water did not solve the problem. At any rate, this is TEPCO/Japan. The same organization that told the Japanese people they were winning WWII, at least up until those two bright flashes occurred. When TEPCO tells you to start worrying about #2, historically it means they are trying to misdirect your attention away from a greater problem.

[bgill]

Agreed.

[TigerLikesRooster]

Like the prospect of imminent collapse of Reactor #4 building?

[justa-hairyape]

That is but one possibility. There are unfortunately numerous others. From recent Bloomberg Article concerning temperature increase in #2.

“It was too early to say the plant is safe in December. They declared cold shutdown even though nobody is sure about the location of melted fuel,” Tetsuo Ito, the head of the Atomic Energy Research Institute at Kinki University in western Japan. “A similar incident will probably occur again.”

Also, right after the recent incident with the strange arclights, flash and smoke/smog from #4, TEPCO dramatically increased the strength of the night time spotlight that interfers with the view of the plant. Hiding possible nighttime emissions or flares is the speculation. Here is the video as they increase or turned the night time light into the camera. Tonight the brightness seems to be in between the old intensity and the new brighter intensity. The light dramatically increased at 43 seconds last night. Note the strange flash at around 34 seconds.

2012.02.07 6:01-6:03 light'n pixeling flush @ tepco fukushima live camera

Also, the JNN camera has not been visible for awhile. That can never be good news. Right now it is returning an error message.

There are some Japanese blogs by ex-Fukushima workers that have some rather horrid documented possibilities of what has been occurring. Difficult to read the Google English translation however.

[TigerLikesRooster]

It is clear by now that the Japanese authorities are trying to cover it up as much as possible. I gave up on those folks. The question is how other countries are reacting to this worsening crisis. Surely Russia and U.S. have means to find out what is going on. How do they feel about it now? What are their plans if Japanese let this thing blow over?

[justa-hairyape]

No way it can blow over. Just a matter of time now. Next big 6.0 near Fukushima drops the #4 SFP. There are also some criticallities coming and going and anyone of those can lead to big problems. We are getting some decent intel from a former US NRC Emergency Response member on some of the blog threads. Her screen name is PattieB. Apparently there are some buildings across from #3 and #4 that were damaged. Some may be storing materials just as dangerous as the reactor materials (rare gas treatment building). They were using carbon to filter nasties out of the exotic gases that were ejecting from the reactors. Apparently a lot of very nasty concentrated material is stored in these buildings. They are also still bleeding off gases apparently, that should only be there if a nuclear reactions were occurring. This video shows what they are hiding with the spotlight. Note the two small flames off to the right.

2011.11.04 18:00-19:00 / ふくいちライブカメラ (Live Fukushima Nuclear Plant Cam)

If you want to learn about that area of the plant, there is a link to the Japanese web page below along with a google translation link. Good stuff is way down into the page.

Original Japanese Page

Google Translated Page

[TigerLikesRooster]

I think I had mistakes in picking a phrase. I should have said "blow up." I also fear that there are numerous ways for this to go wrong and become even a bigger disaster. I am sure those two nations are aware of this. Would they be resigned to sit around and do nothing even if Japanese continue to botch the operation? After all, if it gets worse, it would have alarming impact on both nations? Are they just crossing fingers and hoping for the best?

Do you know what their current thoughts are on this?

[justa-hairyape]

Sorry about that. Yes [blow over] means pass by without incident or notice. [Blow up] means major incident and major notice.

Right now with the yahoos running the US, Japan may be our best hope. Apparently Steven Chu was recommending that explosives be used to blow holes in the reactor early on so they could get more water into them. Trying to find that link right now. Will post it if I find it.