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Pro-Second Amendment = Anti-Government Extremist
PJ Tatler ^ | 7 February, 2012 | Howard Nemerov

Posted on 02/08/2012 6:39:56 AM PST by marktwain

When Reuters reported the FBI’s warning about “anti-government extremists” and cited two cases where alleged “sovereign citizens” shot police, I figured it was just standard anti-gun media. But the emerging use of “anti-rights” instead of “anti-gun” is far more accurate.

The FBI has been publishing bulletins about the “sovereign citizen movement.” One indicator that you might be a “sovereign citizen” is:

“References to the Bible, The Constitution of the United States, U.S. Supreme Court decisions, or treaties with foreign governments.”

Thus, referring to the Bill of Rights, DC v. Heller, McDonald v. Chicago, or the pending U.N. arms trade treaty may place you on the federal government’s radar.

This is curious, because all elected officials and law enforcement are required to take oaths upholding the U.S. Constitution. Here’s the FBI’s oath:

I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

Federal bureaucrats used to support the Constitution, along with another of the Founders’ very important documents, the Declaration of Independence, which states:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed…

One of Oxford English Dictionary’s definitions of “sovereign” is: “Pertaining to or characteristic of supremacy…” Taken in the Declaration’s context, each of us is a sovereign citizen, supreme in ourselves. Or as Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes said: “The right to swing my fist ends where the other man’s nose begins.”

In this case, the government is required, via the “just powers” derived from our consent, to secure our sovereignty.

Their issue with the Second Amendment is that, by nature, it implies that citizens are sovereign, possessing a God-given, inalienable right of self-defense. It also acknowledges that the government isn’t obligated to protect us, a reality regularly affirmed by the Supreme Court (Castle Rock v. Gonzales, DeShaney v. Winnebago).

The Founders warned repeatedly of gun control’s threat to citizen sovereignty, which is why they included in the Declaration:

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

On the other hand, OED also defines “sovereignty” as: “A person who has supremacy or authority over another or others…”

When government becomes corrupted, it seeks dominion over, not service to, the citizenry. It sees our sovereignty as a threat to its desire for supremacy and authority–mastery–over us.

One way to condition citizens into becoming comfortable as servants is to subtly manipulate the language until what was once the ideal goal of society–securing individual rights acknowledged in the Constitution–becomes an evil to be castigated and eradicated by any means possible. Thus, the servants become the masters, and their use of force against the citizenry becomes desirable and legal.

Which is why government will always want more gun control.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; extremist; fbi
As noted, all law enforcement types and government officials took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States...

So does that make them anti-government extremists?

1 posted on 02/08/2012 6:40:05 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

” So does that make them anti-government extremists?”

Now there’s a good question.


2 posted on 02/08/2012 6:51:25 AM PST by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: marktwain

Instead of looking at what bloggers say the FBI said, look to the original source:

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bulletin/september-2011/sovereign-citizens

(Note Footnote 8: “The authors wish to stress that the majority of individuals who carry or refer to these resources are law-abiding citizens. However, in some instances, possession of these items may serve as one indicator of a sovereign-citizen extremist.”)

Now granted, the bullet points could have been articulated much better. However, what the bulletin was getting at is “sovereigns” who take the Bible and Constitution out of context and twist them to fit their insane delusions of the world.

“Sovereigns” believe that they can form their own nations within the United States, that there is a “secret conspiracy” involving the Uniform Commercial Code, Admiralty Law, and the 14th Amendment, and that they do not have to follow laws that they disagree with.

But hey, don’t take the FBI’s word for it either. Go to the original source. Watch these lunatics in court:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzjv20sC5CY&feature=related


3 posted on 02/08/2012 6:53:26 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: marktwain

As the District of Criminals continues to increase its tyrannical drive for power the more the law-abiding citizens of America will be defined as anti-government extremists.


4 posted on 02/08/2012 6:55:19 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: marktwain
“References to the Bible, The Constitution of the United States, U.S. Supreme Court decisions, or treaties with foreign governments.”

In full whine and tantrum mode, liberal progressives reference these things every day.

5 posted on 02/08/2012 7:15:10 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (So just where does the "buck stop" at the Department of "Justice"?)
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I am a member of a SPLC-declared hate group: the American Legion.

I am a member of an elite paramilitary organization: Eagle Scout.

I am a member of a group of crazed, dangerously unreliable individuals: Combat Veteran.

I am so screwed...


6 posted on 02/08/2012 8:07:02 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: marktwain
Unfortunately for many in law and politics, the Oath to protect and defend our Constitution is nothing more than a formality to gain employment. Unless or until the breaking of that oath has serious consequences, we the people will continue to lose our liberty.
7 posted on 02/08/2012 8:17:07 AM PST by drypowder
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Hey Sarge,
If you are white and Christian you really are obviously an antiAmerican zealot.
Sooo how many years did you stay in the military defending crap like this?


8 posted on 02/08/2012 8:36:54 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Joe Boucher

Thankfully I got out before there was a single piece of paper declaring the Kenyan Muslim as my CinC.


9 posted on 02/08/2012 8:42:49 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Old Sarge

I couldn’t iimagine being placed in harms way and getting fired upon and having to call in to ask permission to fire back.
War is not politics


10 posted on 02/08/2012 9:38:48 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: drypowder; All
Unfortunately for many in law and politics, the Oath to protect and defend our Constitution is nothing more than a formality to gain employment. Unless or until the breaking of that oath has serious consequences, we the people will continue to lose our liberty.

This is the result of the Progressive dominance of the MSM. If the WaPo and the NYT screamed about office holders violating their oath of office as much as they push for unconstitutional infringements, no office holder would dare violate his oath of office.

11 posted on 02/08/2012 9:53:45 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
As noted, all law enforcement types and government officials took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States...
So does that make them anti-government extremists?

Nope. It makes them traitors and perjurers.

12 posted on 02/08/2012 10:15:05 AM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: willamedwardwallace
You are wasting your time.

People at FR would much rather rant and panic about government/illuminati/CFR conspiracies than research the truth.

It should be noted that most “sovereign citizens” are ex KKK, ex white supremest, ex neo nazi, or current ronpaul supporters.

13 posted on 02/08/2012 10:35:13 AM PST by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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