Posted on 02/09/2012 2:29:25 PM PST by Eleutheria5
Colonel Martha McSally was a pilot in the United States Air Force. She was the first American woman to fly in combat since the 1991 lifting of the prohibition of women in combat. McSally is also the first woman to command a USAF fighter squadron, the 354th Fighter Squadron (354 FS) based at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base.
in 2001 Martha McSally successfully challenged the military policy that required US and UK servicewomen stationed in Saudi Arabia to wear the body-covering abaya when traveling off base in the country.
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Or maybe became conservative due to adverse reaction to liberal indoctrination. I switched because of that, and Crown Heights pogrom, and David Dinkins, and Louis Farrakhan, and George HW Bush Sr., and Ronald Reagan being vindicated instead of blowing up the world and causing another Depression (in that order:-), etc., etc., etc.
“in 2001 Martha McSally successfully challenged the military policy that required US and UK servicewomen stationed in Saudi Arabia to wear the body-covering abaya when traveling off base in the country.”
She was so successful that she got our troops kicked out of the country back then.
This is very confusing. There are now three Republicans running for what had been Gabrielle Giffords seat.
Holy smokes! Already in the Republican primary race are a former Green Beret (bronze star) who is a state senator, a former US Marine Corps Sergeant, also a combat vet.
Now with a USAF Colonel combat vet, all the race needs is a Rear Admiral or a SEAL or something.
It's certainly possible. My guess is that she's a fan of big government regardless her true party affiliation.
Women shouldn’t be anywhere near combat. The homosexualization and feminization of our US military will be the ruin of it. Any country that sends his women to fight it’s wars should be ashamed. War is hell and POWs go through hell. Can you imagine what would happen to a female POW that’s caught by these ragheaded bastards?
as long as they know what might happen to them if captured.
I can assure you they do, however, that is not the combat issue is it. History and tradition matters no matter how good or bad the training and capabilities of the woman, combat should be out of the question in the United States of America. Women have a much more important mission, regardless of the misguided desires of those who think PC trumps everything else.
But in American military tradition, you have Private Molly Bean who both fought and f##$ed for the Confederacy (doubled as prostitute in between battles), and that lady in the Revolutionary War who womaned her husband’s cannon at Fort Washington in Manhattan (hah)when he was killed, and General Washington retired her with a pension. In Israeli tradition, women have served in the infantry, but usually in a support role, such as logistics or communication, rather than in combat. I don’t know about Air Force or Navy (we don’t have much of a navy, though what we have has been busy lately).
I prefer the memory of the nurses of WWII. Though not combat troops, those in the Philippines certainly saw and experienced the results of combat. I am still against hiring women in the military for any combat regardless of which service it might be. That hiring does nothing but dilute the capabilities, and add to the expense of running the combat forces.
JMHO obviously my opinion did not hold sway when it came to what women in the US military were allowed to do. The other side won that battle. The rest of us had to live with it and the stories were at best a few too many on the order of Molly Bean’s second job.
Who was flying the MiG that downed Speicher?
No thanks. McSally is an affirmative action puke.
She got to Iraq FOUR years after Speicher went down. And the Navy still says a SAM brought down his aircraft. No MIGs were shooting at US planes in 1995. Whatever Air Force Iraq had flew like scolded dogs out of Iraqi airspace the minute the invasion started. No aerial combat from US airmen occurred in Iraq. Nothing to shoot at. But there was plenty of bombing going on. No US plane was shot down. And when Tankers refueled fighters and bombers, they did it over Saudi airspace.
Gang rape and torture and murder.
What, you think they are above a little man-man rape just because they condemn homosexuality?
You obviously don't understand - to them it would be the victim of the gang rape who was homosexual - the perpetrators of it would not be.
Correction. During Desert Storm some aircraft were refueled over Iraq.
She did not successfully challenge anything. The media totally misrepresented the whole situation about the abaya.
As posted:
“She was a person that did not go through the chain of command to take her objections forward.”
“It was all about her. The US does/did not have a SOFA with Kuwait and therefore we had no protections in place so women had to play by the local rules.”
[that means the DOD could not tell troops, including her, that they could ignore local laws and rules. A SOFA allows the US first hack at US military members if they violate laws, and most importantly, a SOFA also exempts US servicemen from local laws and rules. We did NOT have a SOFA at the time, so she decided to throw a little hissy fit and jump outside the chain to push her own version of “ain’t-I-brave-fighting-for-womens-rights-against-the-mean-ol-DOD.”]
“But she thought she was special. That is wrong on many levels, as a leader is supposed to put service before self-she did not.”
“She was a marginal pilot and parlayed her sex into a shield to protect her career, always ready to file EEO complaints (she had several already filed in her past).”
“Basically, not that good a pilot, selfish and arrogant among even other fighter pilots. She was intolerable.”
It was all about her and no one else. She is an opportunist. Unbecoming of an officer.
“Whatever Air Force Iraq had flew like scolded dogs out of Iraqi airspace the minute the invasion started. No aerial combat from US airmen occurred in Iraq. Nothing to shoot at. But there was plenty of bombing going on. No US plane was shot down. And when Tankers refueled fighters and bombers, they did it over Saudi airspace.”
Not exactly.
We had many engagements in the first few days before we achieved air supremacy. Air University has the data if you care to look it up.
And tankers did push north a few times to refuel jets coming off target with leaks and/or min/zero fuel left.
sounds just like Mc Cain....
The info is behind a firewall. So, here is the link for an open source (pretty accurate):
http://www.rjlee.org/air/ds-aakill/By%20Weapon/
Not all were shot in the backside while trying to escape. They tried the escape thing well into the air campaign, about 2 weeks into it.
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