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BREAKING: Pro-life leaders slam White House ‘compromise’ on birth control mandate
Lifesitenews.com ^ | Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:32 EST | Kathleen Gilbert

Posted on 02/10/2012 10:28:01 AM PST by unique1

WASHINGTON, February 10, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The White House announced today that, instead of forcing religious employers to pay for birth control, it will force insurance companies to offer the drugs free of charge to all women, no matter where they work.

The plan, touted as a concession to freedom of religion and conscience, was immediately denounced by pro-life Rep. Chris Smith. “The so-called new policy is the discredited old policy, dressed up to look like something else,. said Smith. .It remains a serious violation of religious freedom. Only the most naï or gullible would accept this as a change in policy.”

“The White House Fact Sheet is riddled with doublespeak and contradiction,” Smith continued. “It states, for example, that religious employers ‘will not’ have to pay for abortion pills, sterilization and contraception, but their ‘insurance companies’ will. Who pays for the insurance policy? The religious employer.”


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KEYWORDS: bhofascism; birthcontrol; catholic; contraceptionmandate; democrats; hhs; nobama2012; obama; obamacare; waronreligion
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This "compromise" is no compromise at all.
1 posted on 02/10/2012 10:28:11 AM PST by unique1
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To: unique1

I am even angrier now than when he first announced it.
The extreme degree of cynicism plus the fact that he really thinks we are this stupid.


2 posted on 02/10/2012 10:31:09 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: unique1

He will not ever understand.

This isn’t about anything but freedom.

The right of life comes before the pursuit of happiness


3 posted on 02/10/2012 10:31:22 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: unique1

The Federal Government is wildly out of control.

What can be done to stop it?


4 posted on 02/10/2012 10:31:40 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: unique1

The Federal Government is wildly out of control.

What can be done to stop it?


5 posted on 02/10/2012 10:31:40 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: unique1

Because liberals think money grows on trees, this seems logical. Conservatives know better and can recognize that this is merely a lousy type of Ponzi scheme - robbing from Peter to pay Paul.


6 posted on 02/10/2012 10:32:00 AM PST by Gumdrop
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To: unique1

Woo Hoo! Rebellion is brewing!!!


7 posted on 02/10/2012 10:32:10 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: unique1

I just absolutely love how he stirred up a highly controversial issue in the middle of a presidential election cycle. And they keep saying how smart he is.

Heh.


8 posted on 02/10/2012 10:32:34 AM PST by bergmeid
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To: unique1

As a Catholic and a defense attorney who used to (until my stroke in 1991) do some work for a Catholic liability insurance company, there may be a small problem with obama’s compromise, er... accommodation. Does the Church have a medical insurance company of its own ? There is no way that a Catholic medical insurance company would pay for an abortion.


9 posted on 02/10/2012 10:36:19 AM PST by Ex-Democrat Dean
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To: unique1; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; ..


The White House will force insurance companies to offer the drugs free of charge to all women!!!

by order and proclamation of...


10 posted on 02/10/2012 10:37:48 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: unique1

I heard a stat this past week: 50% of abortions are performed on women who were contraceptive-users. Where does that put the insurance companies who’re paying for free contraceptive coverage? I don’t know how long after conception a morning-after pill works, but at some point, surgical abortion’s got to enter the picture. Where does it put the pharmaceutical companies making the pill, or IUD, or whatever if the coverage doesn’t extend to the ultimate birth-control method? Do they get sued? Are they automatically responsible for the additional “free” service to women? Who pays for the lapses in contraceptive effectiveness, and why wouldn’t this fact affect the risk/cost of participating insurance companies?


11 posted on 02/10/2012 10:38:24 AM PST by Mach9
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To: Servant of the Cross

Is it time to lock and load?

Just asking.......


12 posted on 02/10/2012 10:39:08 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: unique1

0 is acting stupidly...


13 posted on 02/10/2012 10:39:19 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Stop feeding the beast; spend money only with those who support traditional American values.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

“Rebellion is brewing!!!”

Where do I enlist ?


14 posted on 02/10/2012 10:39:31 AM PST by Ex-Democrat Dean
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To: unique1

http://www.catholicleague.org/obama%e2%80%99s-ploy-adds-insult-to-injury/


15 posted on 02/10/2012 10:39:44 AM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: unique1
If you find yourself debating someone who thinks this is a good compromise, ask them:

"what about Catholic health insurance companies ? (There are some.)

How is this a good 'compromise' when it changes nothing for them ?

.

16 posted on 02/10/2012 10:42:39 AM PST by repentant_pundit (Sammy's your uncle, but he behaves like a spoiled rotten kid.)
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To: BenLurkin
The Federal Government is wildly out of control.

We have nothing in Washington to stop it. The Republicans there are totally committed to maintaining this dictatorship, hence no impeachment. America is now in control of King Obama, the communists black Muslim dictator.

17 posted on 02/10/2012 10:43:53 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Mach9; unique1

What we have is something worse than the original issue. If Obama does this, providing the funding and requiring insurers to offer these “services,” essentially we are seeing the start of a government funded, indirectly (at the moment) government administered population control program. It may be operated through Planned Parenthood or some other group, but what it amounts to is the government forcing everyone to participate in the government-run population control plan.

He’s going to use this technique for everything. Euthanasia will be handled this way too, as a “service” that will be paid for by everybody although not as a specific item.

He’s crafty. This is a stunning power grab.


18 posted on 02/10/2012 10:44:00 AM PST by livius
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To: unique1

There is nothing about this jerk that isn’t clownish and incompetent.


19 posted on 02/10/2012 10:44:31 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Now I know how the average lefty would feel if Fred Phelps were elected President.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Agree!

Something else bothers me here. 99% of women use birth control? I didn’t mind it too much hearing it from brainless news commentators, but hearing it from Sebilius really blew my mind. 98% was the percentage applied to Catholic women. Where does she get these figures? They’re insane, unqualified. But it does bolster the claim that 50% of abortions are performed on women who are current users of some form of birth-control. If that many women are on the pill (or whatever), nearly ALL abortions are performed on women using some form of contraceptive. So what conceivable good are the so-called contraceptives? And how in hell do they promote women’s (forget the aborted baby, for a moment) health?


20 posted on 02/10/2012 10:44:59 AM PST by Mach9
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To: Rightly Biased

Folks, this is just the tip pf the iceberg as far as medical expenses which arise from the promiscuity of a large segment of the population!!!

I know this because I worked in a medical laboratory in a somewhat small (8 providers) clinic. Daily we had young people coming in for treatment for sexually tramsmitted diseases. And there are now many of them: syphillis, Gonorrhea, Chlamydia, Herpes, HPV, etc. The cost for lab tests alone are enormous. Then add in the costs of a pregnancy with an unmarried couple or the cost of an abortion - you get the picture.

Our culture had turned upside down. There is no common sense here. People who have traditrional values are ridiculed by the idiots among us. It is reprehensible. I have had enough of this, and I have decided to fight back. Letters to the editor, and in-the-face responses when I hear stupid statements about Newt or Rick being extyremists. Jesus was right. We are the salt of the earth. We need to proclaim our beliefs without reservation.


21 posted on 02/10/2012 10:46:03 AM PST by Gumdrop
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To: unique1
So...instead of being forced to provide ‘services’ that violate your conscience and religious beliefs, you can just pay someone else who will then do it on your behalf? Riiiiiiight.
22 posted on 02/10/2012 10:47:06 AM PST by JPG (Matters at which the foolish laugh and at whose consequences the prudent weep.)
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To: unique1

I don’t know what is more frightening - the thought that they think people are stupid enough to buy this; or the thought that they actually do, themselves, believe it!


23 posted on 02/10/2012 10:48:06 AM PST by In Maryland ("Truth? We don't need no stinkin' truth!" - Official Motto of the Main Stream Media)
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To: unique1

This shows his true marxist ideology in that he will never back down from his mission to destroy America.

This is the nail from which he will be hung on the cross. Now the GOP and every other freedom loving American need to show resolve and not stop. He can be defeated. But he also needs to be destroyed.


24 posted on 02/10/2012 10:49:21 AM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: Ex-Democrat Dean
Does the Church have a medical insurance company of its own ? There is no way that a Catholic medical insurance company would pay for an abortion.

You raise the million dollar question and the fallacy of the comprise! It isn't a compromise, it is a slap in the face! The post of the day!

The Church whether self insured or paying for "contracts" with insurers, they still don't want to have to offer it, it is their dang choice a choice of conscience!

Again he is forcing a contract on us this time through an intermediary the insurance company!

He has not waiver'd from his the template(s) used in Obamacare!

The shredding of our liberties continue!

25 posted on 02/10/2012 10:50:02 AM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Gumdrop

Exactly. All of it.

We’ve forgotten the great AIDS debate, too. “Promote the general welfare,” was thrown under the bus when we stopped testing for AIDS/HIV in certain high-risk areas. Along with AIDS/HIV testing went pre-marriage blood-tests.

If this isn’t the bright red line, we’re not just stupid, we’re dead.


26 posted on 02/10/2012 10:51:14 AM PST by Mach9
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To: basil

The “in” crowd knows the correct question is

“Is it time yet, Claire?”


27 posted on 02/10/2012 10:51:52 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: unique1
Such arrogance! The President has no delegated power to "compromise" on an area which is not within his purview in the first place.

There are those here and elsewhere who recognize that this is not about "women's health," or "contraception," or any other semantic terms used by the President and his surrogates. So-called "health care reform" itself was the Trojan Horse used by Obama and his fellow "progressives" to bypass and subvert the United States Constitution's limitations on coercive power.

". . . every word of [the Constitution] decides a question between power and liberty. . . ." - James Madison, National Gazette, January 19, 1792

Ours is a "People's" Constitution structuring and limiting the powers of our government, including that of any elected President.

That Constitution has not been amended to grant this President, or any other President, the right to violate its First Amendment's protections. Those provisions are not within the purview of the President, nor any other branch of the government.

The time has come for "the People," to assert their sovereign will and to reject all efforts to bypass or ignore the Constitution.

§ 1907. If these Commentaries shall but inspire in the rising generation a more ardent love of their country, an unquenchable thirst for liberty, and a profound reverence for the constitution and the Union, then they will have accomplished all, that their author ought to desire. Let the American youth never forget, that they possess a noble inheritance, bought by the toils, and sufferings, and blood of their ancestors; and capable, if wisely improved, and faithfully guarded, of transmitting to their latest posterity all the substantial blessings of fife, the peaceful enjoyment of liberty, property, religion, and independence. The structure has been erected by architects of consummate skill and fidelity; its foundations are solid; its compartments are beautiful, as well as useful; its arrangements are full of wisdom and order; and its defences are impregnable from without. It has been reared for immortality, if the work of man may justly aspire to such a title. It may, nevertheless, perish in an hour by the folly, or corruption, or negligence of its only keepers, THE PEOPLE. Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them."

29 posted on 02/10/2012 10:54:24 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Ex-Democrat Dean; basil

30 posted on 02/10/2012 10:56:32 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: bergmeid

” And they keep saying how smart he is.”

Snort.
Well you know...it’s a little known fact that the citizens of Austria speak “Austrian”


31 posted on 02/10/2012 10:59:31 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Gumdrop

One more thing to rant about our stupid culture and the liberals.

I have a friend who is a devout Mormon. Her daughter went into a clinic to get a pre-marital physical exam. She was put throught a gautlet of intrusive questions about her relationship with her fiance. Now I can understand some of these questions being necessary. However, when the young woman told the physician that she and her fiance did not believe in pre-marital sex and that she was therefore a virgin - she was met witrh scepticism and an attitude of disbelief. This young lady was made to feel like a freak of nature because she had sincere religious beliefs against promiscuity.

May God have mercy on us all.


32 posted on 02/10/2012 10:59:38 AM PST by Gumdrop
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To: Servant of the Cross

So... what are we throwing into the harbor this time,
and how should we dress?


33 posted on 02/10/2012 10:59:53 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: unique1

We ought to be overjoyed from the perspective that he is bringing up this highly controversial issue in the middle of an election cycle. If I were Plouffe or Axelrod I’d put duct tape on the SOB.

Now as far as the issue itself is concerned, yes we ought to be furious. And we for sure can’t let it die.


34 posted on 02/10/2012 11:03:40 AM PST by bergmeid (ABO/ABR 2012)
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To: repentant_pundit

Or, ask them about Catholic institutions that are self insured.

It’s very common (especially for large organizations) to be their own insurance company. AT&T, for example, underwrites its employee health insurance (it is administered by another company, but AT&T is actually the insurance company).


35 posted on 02/10/2012 11:03:57 AM PST by Brookhaven (Mitt Romney has been consistent since he changed his mind.)
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To: unique1
Cost is not really the main issue, it is the first amendment separation of church and state that is the issue.

The government has stepped outside of their prescribed authority.

36 posted on 02/10/2012 11:04:17 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: Rightly Biased
The right of life comes before the pursuit of happiness

EXACTLY! It is the right to 1) LIFE, 2) LIBERTY and then 3)THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS!

And it should be applied in that order! There was a reason and meaning behind every word within our Constitution and the Declaration of Independence! Of course, to Obama and the Democrats, these are just old pieces of paper with no real meaning in today's society!
37 posted on 02/10/2012 11:05:24 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: oldbrowser
Cost is not really the main issue, it is the first amendment separation of church and state that is the issue.

And that's exactly what the Bishops are stating, in their letters to Parishes all over this country!

38 posted on 02/10/2012 11:16:38 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Servant of the Cross

Too bad the republicans didn’t put forth a good slate of nominees. I like Newt and all, but right now he’s going scorched earth to pay back Romney for the crap he pulled in Iowa. I can’t blame him either—and it does help Santorum out quite a bit.

Romney is the worst thing that happened to our party this election cycle. I pray for a brokered convention where we can have someone new on the ticket that hasn’t had millions in negative ads ran against him for 1 year.


39 posted on 02/10/2012 11:17:08 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: unique1

Maybe those who wanted Govt health care and many Catholic now will wake up and understand obama has been lying since he came on the scene back at the Dem convention.

Like homosexual marriage, this is not the aim, but as a step to a bigger agenda.

Homosexual marriage is a step which leads to getting kids, then teaching in schools.
With health care this is about making Catholic and other churches to accept homosexual women as Priests and they will use the discrimination law but ignore the 1st amendment which clearly states freedom of religion and the Govt shall not infringe etc.

Then they are now closing down free speech on this ,
Then the 9th uses the 14th amendment for CA marriage which was a dud because they can marry like us but not the same sex, plus their ruling then applies to all sorts of marriage like 8 wives.

The constitution is being pissed on and instead of McConell etc giving boring no emotion speeches on the floor they need to show some passion, get on the live cameras and go mad about this and show emotion, while stopping this and with obama doing all of this then it seems there is grounds for impeachment, same goes for Ginsburg and the 9th district


40 posted on 02/10/2012 11:18:39 AM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: MrB

Well, what is the answer from the “in” crowd”?


41 posted on 02/10/2012 11:19:44 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: basil

Claire always answers with “not yet”.


42 posted on 02/10/2012 11:24:55 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Mach9

this is not just about contraception but the MSM is playing that way, this is about sterilization, abortion.

Notice how the MSM ignore those other points and issues on this ?

We cannot let the MSM dictate the terms of this issue like we always do, remind all that this is a bigger picture than just contraception and get the message out as the MSM is doing all they can to minimize this issue.

Ask people should one Catholic hospital now be told they have to give abortions?
Regardless of of one is religious or not we have laws and amendments which state the Govt shall not infringe on religion
What part of freedom of religion do they not understand, ?


43 posted on 02/10/2012 11:27:40 AM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: MrB

What on earth is she waiting for?


44 posted on 02/10/2012 11:39:03 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Brown Deer

The White House will force insurance companies to offer the drugs free of charge to all women!! <<

Yahoo!...next up.....

The White House will force GM to offer the “Volt” free of charge to all minorities under the Federal poverty level!

Hail to the Chief!!...Vote Obama! /s


45 posted on 02/10/2012 11:40:01 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: basil
Claire Wolfe's response to "is it time yet, Claire?"
46 posted on 02/10/2012 11:50:05 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Scotswife

another little known fact....only Austrian Marine “corpsman” speak Austrian...but its not allowed in any of the 57 states of the USA


47 posted on 02/10/2012 11:52:33 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: bergmeid

“I just absolutely love how he stirred up a highly controversial issue in the middle of a presidential election cycle. And they keep saying how smart he is.”

****************

Although I doubt that idiot Obama’s IQ is any higher than 90, I am sure that the commie RATs (not just Obama) are intentionally raising this controversial issue at this time. Nothing in politics happens by accident, at least nothing of this magnitude.


48 posted on 02/10/2012 11:58:57 AM PST by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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To: MrB; All; Deb
So... 1) what are we throwing into the harbor this time,
2) and how should we dress?

Darn good questions. I pose it to all on the thread. My answer .....

1) Condoms

2) ....

49 posted on 02/10/2012 12:05:01 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Mach9

I know quite a few Catholic women who have used birth control at times for various reasons. But absolutely NONE of them support forcing the Church to pay for it when it violates their teachings.


50 posted on 02/10/2012 12:06:44 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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