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Dems claim victory in birth-control fight despite Obama shift
TheHill.com ^ | 2/11/12 | Mike Lillis

Posted on 02/11/2012 4:36:38 PM PST by Republican Wildcat

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To: Republican Wildcat

This is part of the Kenyan’s plan to kill off private insurance. Declaring “free” contraceptives and no premium increase does not compute.

Talk about unconstitutional mandate...


21 posted on 02/11/2012 5:20:21 PM PST by y6162
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To: Texas Fossil

Well, yes it involves religious freedom, but ask yourself if you would support a presidential mandate that all insurance companies provide free eye exams and glasses. That’s certainly a health care issue that affects most Americans. Even those who don’t need glasses still need periodic exams, right?

In order to do business, the company is obligated to provide something free. I equate this to extortion. Apply it to other businesses. What if all gas stations were obligated to provide free oil changes, or grocery stores were obligated to give out free bread? It’s the same thing. Now a lot of Americans might like free bread and oil changes, but it didn’t work in the Soviet Union and won’t work in America.

BTW, what about people who are opposed to abortion drugs for non-religious reasons?


22 posted on 02/11/2012 5:21:32 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is a challenge worth striving for.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Dear Lord,

Please let this abomination be struck down in it’s entirety when SCOTUS decides this case in June. Then we’ll be rid of this monster-for now.


23 posted on 02/11/2012 5:24:20 PM PST by SaintDismas
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To: Republican Wildcat

We ought to make the ‘rats personally pay for all the “free” stuff they buy votes with.


24 posted on 02/11/2012 5:28:18 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: CitizenUSA
You are talking about Obozo’s “spin fix”, not the original problem. The spin fix was about shifting this away from the religious groups onto the insurance companies. He has no lega authority to do that.....

But he is the Obastard (who is not bound by any law) and he does it anyway. For now.

Soon the day of reckoning will be here.

25 posted on 02/11/2012 5:28:37 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: CitizenUSA
"...were obligated to give out free bread? "

Throw in some circus tickets and you're on....

26 posted on 02/11/2012 5:30:31 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SaintDismas

The RATS have really crossed a line with this whole health care thing. Whether it is morning after pills or toe fungus cream..why is the Federal Govt able to use all their power to force individuals, employers and insurance companies to supply anything free? This needs to be fast tracked to the Supreme Court..plus these outrageous people need to be voted out of office. This is the first issue that got my wife to write all our Congresscritters at the same time.


27 posted on 02/11/2012 5:31:46 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Paladin2

Paladin2: “Throw in some circus tickets and you’re on.... “

Nice!


28 posted on 02/11/2012 5:37:32 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is a challenge worth striving for.)
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To: CitizenUSA
"...then he can literally order them to provide anything else he wants."

Wait until he orders that electric cars be insured without cost.

29 posted on 02/11/2012 5:37:48 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: spokeshave
...hold it...draw a sketch showing the cash flow... where the hell is the victory?????? Somebody still pays the bills for this nonsense!!!
30 posted on 02/11/2012 5:43:51 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: Oldexpat

I hear you friend. I am so furious about this, more than I have EVER been about anything so far that Obama has ever done. I have to pray constantly not to let Satan tempt me, and teach me to hate. I have to fight against this with everything my will can muster and rely on the Lord for the grace not to hate this man and those of his ilk.

I prayed for Obama today for the very first time. Only God Himself can save him from the fires of hell. Knowing what I have heard and read about hell, I can’t wish it on anyone, no matter how blinding mad I get.


31 posted on 02/11/2012 5:44:57 PM PST by SaintDismas
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To: Texas Fossil

Texas Fossil: “You are talking about Obozo’s “spin fix”, not the original problem.”

Not really. What about non-religious people who don’t think abortion is moral? Is this really about freedom of religion or private property rights? I think the latter.

Granted, the states and federal government have been doing this for years. This just happens to be more blatant. Governments have mandated that insurance companies cover certain things for some time. I don’t see myself getting pregnant...ever...but in some states I can’t buy a policy that doesn’t cover maternity care.

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparetable.jsp?ind=687&cat=7&sort=1558

It’s one thing to say an insurance company has to honor the policies it writes, keep a certain amount of funding available to pay claims, etc. It’s something else (for government) to force a company to cover certain things as a price for doing business. It’s also not the same thing for government to mandate I have to buy something I don’t want in order to get what I do want. Even worse, there’s absolutely nothing in the US Constitution that gives the federal government the right to intrude in this.


32 posted on 02/11/2012 5:55:40 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is a challenge worth striving for.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
A bit early in a long and ferocious war, for the arrogant democrat party vermin to declare victory.

Victory is exactly what it is unless we the people overturn it.

33 posted on 02/11/2012 6:00:51 PM PST by itsahoot (I will Vote for Palin, even if I have to write her in.(Recycled Tagline))
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To: Republican Wildcat

Somebody with greater computer skills than I should morph debbie blabbermouth-shiite’s head onto Baghdad Bob’s body.


34 posted on 02/11/2012 6:00:55 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Texas Fossil
This is about more than Catholics, it is a shot across the bow of ALL Christians, Jews and some other faiths. Obozo has declared War on all of us.

True, and thankfully, more groups of other faiths ARE speaking out about it.

35 posted on 02/11/2012 6:01:22 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Texas Fossil
This is about more than Catholics, it is a shot across the bow of ALL Christians, Jews and some other faiths. Obozo has declared War on all of us.

True, and thankfully, more groups of other faiths ARE speaking out about it.

36 posted on 02/11/2012 6:01:40 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: I cannot think of a name
the little voice in the back of my head keeps reminding me that most of the people that this will prevent from having children,,,,,I really don’t want having children in the first place.

Those people don't even bother with contraception, so it won't affect them at all.

37 posted on 02/11/2012 6:07:35 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: FormerACLUmember

Could someone please photoshop a picture of an imperious looking Nancy Pelosi dressed as the Pope?


38 posted on 02/11/2012 6:09:56 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: CitizenUSA
My point is that only after he was smacked down for his mandate did he decide to force insurance companies to add the coverage.

Subterfuge.

The original problem is not about birth control. The original problem is an issue of Freedom of Religion. An issue so important to our founders that it was written in the 1st Amendment to the Constitution. They stated that those right were granted by God, not the government. It is not the government's to remove...Ever.

39 posted on 02/11/2012 6:21:59 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Republican Wildcat

“President Obama has set a standard that every woman has a right to contraception coverage at no additional cost,” the DNC email says, “and he’s done it in a way that respects religious freedoms.”

Yep, screw anyone, anywhere, at no extra cost.


40 posted on 02/11/2012 6:29:03 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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