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To: Kaslin; GeronL
The headline is misleading.

It was a state, and not a federal, official who did this.

While he may have used federal guidelines, the guidelines themselves do not dictate the actions the state employee took.

My point is not to excuse federal intrusion, but to point out that state governments can be every bit as intrusive, and often are more intrusive, than the federal government.

Many FReepers and other conservatives like to talk about "state sovereignty" or "states' rights" or romanticize the Tenth Amendment, but the lived reality is that state governments and municipal governments are not appreciably better than the federal and are usually more expensive to boot.

The disease goes deeper than the Beltway and "cleaning up Washington" would barely be the beginning.

10 posted on 02/14/2012 11:43:35 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

and if it is, becomes, mandated by the feds but carried out by the state?

Meeechelll is pushing this kind of crap


14 posted on 02/14/2012 11:54:11 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: wideawake

Your post is a good one.

However I’ve had much better luck “negotiating” govt issues with state folks than federal ones. Local politicians have a lot more sensitivity to local voters.


15 posted on 02/14/2012 11:56:39 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: wideawake

That’s right. State employees have become the agents/toads of the federal government.
This is what `federalism’ has become. `You give us money, and we will give you some of your money back, but you don’t get it if you don’t comply with our “guidelines” on the subjects of birth control, school lunches, transportation, communication, and on and on.
Zero has taken this to the next step by claiming that our money, that has not yet become his money, is actually `spending.’


16 posted on 02/14/2012 12:02:53 PM PST by tumblindice (Whitey-American)
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To: wideawake

I lived in NC eleven years. First, there are federal dollars attached to every book, every meal, and every school bus rider. NC is broke, has been broke and is getting worse under “suspend elections for two years Gov Perdue”. They are desperately extorting every federal dollar and every citizen dollar they can. Perdue had privileged passes to Federal unemployment numbers (per EL Rushbo). Raleigh is closer to DC than you think. In short, this state meal Nazi, got a few federal dollars for this meal, remember it is exponential. If they can increase the federal money by X amount, NC will do it. That is why there are school bus rider “audits, btw.. federal money. Our Money.
I would report this as Federal Fraud, if I were the parents. See something, say something.


27 posted on 02/14/2012 12:57:49 PM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: wideawake

That’s true, the nanny-mommy-daddy-big-brother-dependency state is a bigger problem than just the Federales, but if we can radically chop down the Federal Kudzu, the weeds in each State by State garden plot will be far more easy to deal with.

Many States — Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, others — are already rapidly downsizing state bureaucracies.


31 posted on 02/14/2012 1:37:25 PM PST by bvw
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To: wideawake
My point is not to excuse federal intrusion, but to point out that state governments can be every bit as intrusive, and often are more intrusive, than the federal government.

Many FReepers and other conservatives like to talk about "state sovereignty" or "states' rights" or romanticize the Tenth Amendment, but the lived reality is that state governments and municipal governments are not appreciably better than the federal and are usually more expensive to boot.


And it is North Carolina that we're talking about here. North Carolina has decided to take this power to the extreme, unfortunately. Not sure why, always thought there were quite a few Conservatives there, but guess not.
32 posted on 02/14/2012 1:52:26 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: wideawake; JLAGRAYFOX; gonzo; Nachum; freekitty; seekthetruth; left that other site; ZULU; ...

The State and Federal agents of Liberal Insanity are groping us at airports; dictating what our children eat in the schools while the NEA brainwashes them into becoming good Liberals. Ya think their next step will be in our bedrooms? Think about it and pray that the clueless wake up before we’re living in the Regime’s planned reproduction of 1930’s Germany. Meanwhile, the eunuchs in DC look for their gonads with both hands and a mirror and find nothing and say absolutely nothing to expose the treachery in DC. You know their names! Vote them out in November 2012 before you have no freedom(s) left.


38 posted on 02/15/2012 8:23:16 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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