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An Obama-Santorum matchup would be good for the country
Baltimore Sun ^ | 02/14/12 | Kyle Scott

Posted on 02/14/2012 7:26:22 PM PST by writer33

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To: lightman

The left makes all of our candidates damaged goods.


21 posted on 02/14/2012 8:32:10 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Some have a lot of self-inflicted damage.


22 posted on 02/14/2012 8:36:11 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: writer33
I disagree...here's why:

The GOP final nominee - from the day they are nominated - will encounter a $h!+Storm from the obama machine. The damage that Newt received from Romney a few weeks ago will be child's play compared to the liberal onslaught that will fall upon our nominee.

Whether or not Santorum technically wins out over obama in a debate will not matter by the time the MSM gets done reporting the story everyone will swear obama won in a landslide.

Richie Cunningham and his Mr. Rogers sweater vests won't stand a chance against the media-created and promoted messiah obama.

What - IMHO - it has come down to is the media has convinced everyone that they should not vote for a candidate who has any "negatives"...and Santorum has the least amount of media-defined negatives:
He's more conservative than Romney;
He's got less "baggage" (read: "No ex-wives") than Gingrich, and; He's not Ron Paul, so,
He's the perfect "let's settle for", McCainian Candidate.


23 posted on 02/14/2012 8:43:28 PM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: ncalburt

Why on Earth would you associate me with the nutjob Ron Paul? Just trying to make anyone who disagrees with you guilty by (wrong) association?

Shame on you.

I have VERY good reasons to oppose Santorum, and by extension you, and they have nothing whatsoever to do with Ron Paul.

They have to do with the fact that at best Santorum (or Romney for that matter) will just be placeholders for the socialists. NONE of the damage they have done will be undone by Santorum (or Romney). the best that will happen is that they will come back after a disastrous four years and start their project right back up again, just like they have done after EVERY cowardly Republican administration since Herbert Hoover.

Why not actually put an end to the Progressive/Socialist pogrom on the American people? I won’t settle for less.


24 posted on 02/14/2012 8:54:45 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Rudder

What I get is: “I’m a nice guy and I won’t rock the Democrat’s boat. I’ll do what I can, as long as it does not involve making waves or upsetting the Arlen Specters, Mitt Romneys and Harry Reids of this world.”

That does NOT float my boat.


25 posted on 02/14/2012 9:00:14 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: ReneeLynn

Why...! would Santorum be a disaster???


26 posted on 02/14/2012 9:06:36 PM PST by Turborules (America is Great, and will be blessed with a clean sweep of Marxist in 2012...Vote!)
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To: John Valentine
I disagree in total to your assessment that Santorum would be a one term President, or Romney for that matter! These are good, strong, and brave men, with 100 times the quality this country deserves should either be defeated in Nov. Look for any truth from the left and file it under “Lost and Never Found”

What law? we are the law, it just means what the meaning of IS,IS...Slick

27 posted on 02/14/2012 9:16:49 PM PST by Turborules (America is Great, and will be blessed with a clean sweep of Marxist in 2012...Vote!)
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To: exit82

“We need the strongest horse, to win.”

Some might conclude that would be not Rick, not Newt but rather Romney because he has the money, the organization and he has already shown that he could fight back Newt. He could do the same to Rick and eventually Obama.
We wouldn’t have this epic good vs evil battle if Romney is the nominee. It would be a technical “I’m the better manager than you” debate.


28 posted on 02/14/2012 9:24:21 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: ncalburt

Is that the bots I smelled? I like RP accept for his ideas!


29 posted on 02/14/2012 9:27:07 PM PST by Turborules (America is Great, and will be blessed with a clean sweep of Marxist in 2012...Vote!)
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To: Turborules

Every time we elect Republicans who are not committed to taking on the Socialists in a fight to the death they win. Every time. Because they are like zombies. They just form spores and wait until the rains come again, and up they sprout, right where they were before.

We need someone who will dig them out, root them out, smash their constructs, poison their fields, and not stop until the job is done.

Neither Rick Santorum nor Mitt Romney will do anything like that. They’d invite Harry Reid to lunch at the White House.


30 posted on 02/14/2012 9:31:57 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: exit82
Obama would chew up Rick in the first round. Sorry, Rick will not cut it in the general. We need someone like Newt who can take the fight to Obama and cream him and the Dems.

Like Newt chewed up Romney in the last debate. I keep hearing how Newt's the only one who can take it to Obama but let's be honest, one deer-in-the-headlights debate like that last one and Newt would be done.

Disclaimer, I also like Newt but not as sure as others that he'd be any better than Santorum in the general. They both have their strengths and weaknesses.

31 posted on 02/14/2012 9:32:55 PM PST by Kenny (I)
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To: ari-freedom
I do not disagree with your cogent analysis...that is why I fear non of our candidates would loose to Obama...they all are that much better...the biggest problem for our guys, is that the only debates we will see out of Obama will be so tightly scripted, the truth will have so little time to reveal itself to the masses We need money for truth ads!!! I'll do my part.
32 posted on 02/14/2012 9:34:56 PM PST by Turborules (America is Great, and will be blessed with a clean sweep of Marxist in 2012...Vote!)
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To: John Valentine

I agree with you on what our candidate must do...I think Santorum can do that...as well as Newt, and Romney...that is what I have read and heard from all three of these fine men...Rush is leaning towards Rick Santorum and I before him...we just need to see the big dog eat alittle more to win you over <:o))


33 posted on 02/14/2012 9:41:50 PM PST by Turborules (America is Great, and will be blessed with a clean sweep of Marxist in 2012...Vote!)
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To: Kenny

Ditto!


34 posted on 02/14/2012 9:44:19 PM PST by Turborules (America is Great, and will be blessed with a clean sweep of Marxist in 2012...Vote!)
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To: writer33

This is about the tenth item from the liberal Republican hating media pimping Santorum that you have posted. Do you not know what their agenda is? Do you really think when these folks say it would be good for Santorum to win the nomination, that it would be good for us?


35 posted on 02/14/2012 9:48:03 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: writer33
Love when Liberal newspapers and MSM ET AL weigh in on what is 'good' per Republican politics; particularly when they are trying to influence Repub nomination process.

They are breathing easier; but still a bit of 'breath holding' as the candidate who actually knows, what of he speaks; is still out there.

Their silent mantra? Anyone; but Newt.

(We cannot forget that for 'these' people; 'winning' is a blood sport; and only the 'win' matters. No question; they would like to see Obama sink his fangs into Santorum.)

36 posted on 02/14/2012 11:28:36 PM PST by cricket (. It is not just the economy. . .and Newt knows it. . .)
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To: All; lightman
Please throw off those rose-colored glasses and examine Rick Santorum with a clear mind!

His unvetted candidacy is a ticking time bomb. He needs the light shown on him and his real record.

He helped give us Obama's first Supreme Court nominee, Sotomayor, by voting to confirm her Circuit Court appointment by Bill Clinton. That's the kind of judge Senator Rick Santorum truly believed was suited for our high courts!

He added $550 million in Amtrack funding to the $900 million Bush wanted. (Reference: Santorum amendment to Transportation funding bill; Bill S.Amdt.3015 to S.Con.Res.83 ; vote number 2006-052 on Mar 15, 2006)

Based on his voting record, until just recently Santorum rated an F from Numbers USA on immigration. Suddenly, late in this campaign, he's now an A-, the only candidate to flip-flop positions and raise his grade substantially except the king flip-flopper himself Mitt Romney. Even Mitt moved just one letter grade! Which is the more believable Rick? The cold hard voting record or the sudden rhetorical shift?

Obama and the press don't need a "smear machine" they simply need to pull back the curtain on Santorum and let his record do the talking. The PA press have started gathering things from their years of reporting.

Here are just a few highlights:

1. His charity Operation Good Neighbor (2001-07), illegally never registered with PA, doled out just 36% of income as grants, far less than the 75% of responsible causes. I'm sure it's coincidence the charity which spent most of its money on lobbyists, aides and fundraisers closed after he was defeated for reelection.

2. His "leadership PAC," "American's Foundation," was worse--just 18% went to candidates, well below similar PACs.

3. The $500,000 mortgage for his Leesburg mansion came from a private bank run by a big campaign donor. By all appearances, Santorum was not eligible for the closed program.

4. Santorum bilked a Pennsylvania school district out of $72,000 to pay for home "cyberschooling" of five of his kids ... in Virginia.

5. As the third-ranking Republican, he worked closely with House majority leader Tom DeLay, now felon, on the "K-Street Project" to grow ties between the GOP and major lobbyists. Twenty-three of his own staffers landed well-paying jobs at lobbying firms. When he was fired by the PA voters? Santorum turned to lobbyists.

6. This supporter of Medicare Part D was so important to this culture of crony capitalism, an internal memo at pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline said his loss "creates a big hole that we need to fill."

7. Before anyone heard of Solyndra, Santorum was securing $100 million federal loans for a coal-to-liquids plant that was never built. The project's lobbyist was PA's top GOP power broker, Bob Ashner, and paid nearly $1 million.

That's seven places just to start digging. Besides his unheard of 18-point loss for reelection, putting electability in question there's his hypocrisy of campaigning on requiring health insurance in 1994, on his public tort reform position vs. his testimony in his wife's own legal case, his "problem" with working women and genuine gender gap in his senatorial elections, his union pandering and more.

What has this failed lawyer and career politician really done; what specific reforms does he propose?

We all know what Romney is. Newt's vetted for more than a decade. Ron Paul's been running since 1988.

I want every supporter of Santorum to look themselves in the mirror before casting a vote and ask, "Can I honestly say I know all there is I need to know about Rick Santorum or are I being bamboozled by Hope he'll Change things?

37 posted on 02/15/2012 12:03:11 AM PST by newzjunkey (Santorum has baggage too. Demand an inspection!)
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To: writer33
This in The Sun? Wonders never cease.
38 posted on 02/15/2012 2:42:26 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: writer33
He believes in his message, and his message is consistent with core Republican values.

That is a huge factor. Romney doesn't convince people that he believes what he's telling us. Rush brought up a good point... how does a candidate who isn't a true believer in the core messages possibly convince others to get on board? It's reminiscent of Bob Dole, who said in 1996, "I can be Reagan if you want."

39 posted on 02/15/2012 5:56:56 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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