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To: RasterMaster

“Obviously there is no standard regarding Newt’s record, other than claiming his alignment with DUmocrats were all”
“mistakes” that should be explained away without substantial demonstration of a “change of heart”.”

That’s basically a lie, just like you lied about me attacking Rick Santorum’s family. If not a lie, a very gross malfunction in your brain. You are basically ignoring huge portions of Newt’s record.

You’re talking about a guy who has done battle against the Libs and RINOs in our own party since the 80s. There is nothing that changes that. He did not support Cap and Trade. Sitting on the couch with Pelosi didn’t change his overall philosophy. Sitting on the couch with Pelosi doesn’t change his leadership role. Once upon a time, this guy used to be called the “Hard line leader of the conservative Republicans” by the media. He was hated then as he is hated now. But look at you, utterly unwilling to acknowledge this historical reality... and why? Because, like Santorum, you can’t bring yourself to say anything positive about your political opponent.

“He admits his long-time support of such issues were mistakes, then devotes himself to making new ones.”

Like what? Can you be specific?

“That describes Newt’s reaction all through the campaign and most likely a reason for his decline since the latest news coming out from his staff is now claiming he’s once again “changed” focus of his campaign after losing ground through baseless attacks he himself was guilty of.”

That’s another lie, or you are incredibly delusional. I know Newt has gone after Romney pretty hard. He hasn’t gone over Santorum hard at all. In fact, it was Newt early on who urged conservatives not to go negative at all.

Santorum has called Newt crass, irresponsible, pandering, suggested that he is dishonest, suggested that he is not conservative.

Can you please find me an example where Newt has lied about Santorum’s record, or smeared Santorum by calling him names or suggesting he has poor character?

If you can’t, I’ll just put it in the list of lies you’ve told.

Newt has a long history of talking a good game, making it a point during this campaign to say “all the good things” (we’ve already got one of those in the White House). I’ll take a leader who LIVES IT every day and doesn’t run the ball for the other team during his down time.”

“Newt has a long history of talking a good game, making it a point during this campaign to say “all the good things” (we’ve already got one of those in the White House). “

So, giving specifics about what his plans are, what he intends to do, are “all the good things” that he is just saying to get elected?

“I’ll take a leader who LIVES IT every day and doesn’t run the ball for the other team during his down time.”

So not giving specifics, emphasizing his family image and his social concerns, over actually promoting a platform is what you would call “living it”?

I’m going to ask you for the 3rd or 4th time.

Try defending Santorum’s platform. Explain how it is better than Newt’s platform. Immediately accusing Newt of being an absolute liar in everything he says does not fulfill this experiment.


61 posted on 02/15/2012 7:49:32 PM PST by Apollo5600
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To: Apollo5600

First of all, I owe you nothing here, noob. You “defend” Newt by starting off with more personal attacks? Many of his supporters seem to have a grudge against Catholics (”St. Rick”) and attack him for having the courage to stand for family values.

You demonstrated that you have a problem with featuring his family in his campaign, which tells me his religion and family values seem to be a concern in the campaign that Newt supporters are using to base their line of attack.

Regarding Newts “record”, I look at things that matter rather than media driven soundbites. On on issue after issue in the debates, I’ve heard Newt say “Rick is right on that” or “Rick was a leader” on this or that issue.

I think a moon base while we’re trillions in debt is a dumb idea. I’ll also wager that Newt’s own campaign will attest that his method of attacking Romney on Bain was mis-directed, mis-guided...oh yea, Newt’s own words “a mistake”.

Gingrich Admits ‘Mistake’ With Romney Attack - NYTimes.com
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/15/gingrich-admits-mistake-with-romney-attack/

Newt Gingrich: I Didn’t Admit Attacking Mitt Romney On Bain ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/11/newt-gingrich-attack-ad-mitt-romney-bain_n_1200415.html

But coming from Newt, that seems to be a campaign theme....

Gingrich campaign admits error – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com ...
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/26/gingrich-admits-error/

Newt Gingrich: ‘I made a mistake’ on Medicare plan criticism ...
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55186.html

Newt Gingrich on Ryan budget slam: ‘I made a mistake’ - Los ...
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/18/news/la-pn-gingrich-mistake-20110518

Newt Gingrich: I made a mistake in saying I wouldn’t win the Iowa caucuses
http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2012/01/02/newt-gingrich-i-made-a-mistake-in-saying-i-wouldnt-win-the-iowa-caucuses/

Newt Gingrich: Doug Hoffman support a ‘mistake’ - Andy Barr ...
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28730.html

The Page by Mark Halperin | Newt Admits Campaign Mistake
http://thepage.time.com/2011/12/31/newt-admits-campaign-mistake/

“Newt has admitted it was a mistake to back Dede Scozzafava, the Republican nominee in the 2009 NY-23 special election”
www.newt.org/answers

KEENE: Gingrich makes critical mistake in Virginia - Washington Times
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/26/gingrich-makes-critical-mistake-in-virginia/

Branstad: Gingrich vacation a big mistake | Iowa Caucuses
http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/06/10/branstad-gingrich-vacation-a-big-mistake/

There is an article earlier today regarding “refocusing” after sliding to 4th in many polls, but I’m not following Newt’s campaign around with a shovel, nor do I troll his threads like you and other spammers of Santorum threads do.

That said, there are plenty of examples where Newt has REVERSED course, but the main issue is that what Newt says now is not what he’s always promoted. Santorum authored Health Savings Accounts while in Congress, Newt pushed for government-mandated single payer healthcare.

What matters most is electing a candidate to stand up against the culture of death pushed by the DUmocrats. The erosion of our liberty and freedom is a primary consern and goes into every issue. But then I guess we should all just “relax and accept it”, just like Newt says....lest we pi$$ off the BIG TENT “moderates”....

Newt Gingrich on abortion in 1991: “Relax and accept it”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiQo3pRmr-4

Gun Owners of America: Newt Ain’t Great on 2nd Amendment Rights, Broke His Promise to America

http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2011/11/28/gun-owners-of-america-newt-aint-great-on-2nd-amendment-rights-broke-his-promise-to-america/

If you cannot get RIGHT TO LIFE or THE MEANS TO DEFEND IT correct, how can you claim to be a conservative? If a candidate gets those three correct they are more likely to get all the other issues correct as well.

Newt’s “off-the-reservation” moments are too numerous, too freguent, and increasingly too recent. Santorum has been consistent in his pro-life, pro-marriage, pro-second amendment stance....Newt has been all over the map trying to appeal to “moderates” and JACKASSES. His last line of attack wasn’t gaining traction and only hurt his cause, and it shows. Newt still needs a his only competition out of the way to get a boost where Rick just needs to stick to his message and he defeats both Romney and Obama.


64 posted on 02/15/2012 9:08:26 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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