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To: smokingfrog

” It weighs 3.5 pounds, has a barrel length of 7.75 inches, fires 12-gauge shells “

Kick like a back-country mule, and an effective range measured in feet - maybe a bit more with flechettes...

Boy. that’s really going to be an effective combat weapon...


16 posted on 02/15/2012 7:24:44 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Uncle Ike

My sentiments exactly; looks more like it was designed for urban warfare or crowd control to me.


33 posted on 02/15/2012 7:46:08 PM PST by Segovia
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To: Uncle Ike

Attached to the M4, it’s a 10 lb. weapon, and the flash hider looks to be top-vented only which would reduce muzzle climb. I’ve tried out Winchester’s military grade buckshot loads, and it isn’t really hard-kicking stuff. It’s about like a 1- 1/4 oz pheasant load.


39 posted on 02/15/2012 8:07:15 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: Uncle Ike

Actually, that is a popular misconception. A 12 ga out of 7 in will pattern well at 15 and even 20 yards. The 12 ga round is optimized at 12 inches. It is not like a rifle round that benefits from extra barrel length. It is doing all that it needs to at 12 inches and a little less barrel length does not have a dramatic drop off like a rifle either.

I have shot a friends serbu super shorty and was amazed. Interestingly, the 3 in 00 had a greater spread than 2 3/4 00. Not worth the extra money or kick. He is still doing penetration testing BUT I would have no hesitation using one out to 20 yards. Aiming it is the hard part, but the load does exactly what it does out of a 18 in barrel for most bad guy distances.


48 posted on 02/15/2012 8:44:03 PM PST by 1malumprohibitum
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