Posted on 02/16/2012 8:39:31 AM PST by Sub-Driver
Howard Dean: 'Very Conservative Women Want Their Kids, Their Daughters Taking Birth Control' By Noel Sheppard Created 02/16/2012 - 11:04am
As NewsBusters has been reporting, the perilously liberal media have been focusing a great deal of attention on contraception in order to assist President Obama's narrative that Republicans want to take away everyone's birth control.
Doing his part on MSNBC's Morning Joe Thursday was CNBC contributor Howard Dean who actually said with a straight face, "Very conservative women want their kids, their daughters taking birth control" (video follows with transcript and commentary):
HOWARD DEAN, CNBC CONTRIBUTOR: We did a focus group in 2008 when Obama was running, and we did it in western Pennsylvania with pro-Life women. And Obama had, I mean McCain had said something like we shouldn’t pay for, he was against paying for contraception but he was for paying for Viagra. So we, that comes out in this pro-Life focus group, and these pro-Life women go, “This guy is totally out of touch” because they all had teenage daughters, and whatever they thought about abortion and all that, they did not want their teenage daughters getting pregnant.
And people in America are very practical people across the political spectrum. Very conservative women want their kids, their daughters taking birth control.
Really? I would think most very conservative women want their teenage daughters to be celibate and likely believe giving them birth control is telling them it's okay to have sex.
A 2007 Associated Press/Ipsos poll provided some insight:
People decisively favor letting their public schools provide birth control to students, but they also voice misgivings that divide them along generational, income and racial lines, a poll showed.
Sixty-seven percent support giving contraceptives to students, according to an Associated Press-Ipsos poll. About as many — 62% — said they believe providing birth control reduces the number of teenage pregnancies.
Let's look at some of the details (emphasis added):
Minorities, older and lower-earning people were likeliest to prefer requiring parental consent, while those favoring no restriction tended to be younger and from cities or suburbs. People who wanted schools to provide no birth control at all were likelier to be white and higher-income earners. [...]
Underlining the schisms over the issue, those saying sex education and birth control were better for reducing teen pregnancies outnumber people preferring morality and abstinence by a slim 51% to 46%.
Younger people were likelier to consider sex education and birth control the better way to limit teenage pregnancies, as were 64% of minorities and 47% of whites. Nearly seven in 10 white evangelicals opted for abstinence, along with about half of Catholics and Protestants.
In addition, 49% say providing teens with birth control would not encourage sexual intercourse and a virtually identical 46% said it would.
So, 46 percent of those surveyed preferred morality and abstinence with the same percentage saying giving kids birth control encourages sex.
Think very conservative women would have been in that group?
Yeah, I do too.
But that's not the narrative the White House wants, and CNBC's Dean did his part Thursday to further the misinformation.
I must not be very conservative then. Or maybe not a woman. Maybe the good doctor can let me know.
Even if they do, so what? What does that have to do with the issue of it being “free”, or of being forced to provide it?
Indeed.
One wouldn’t want a new “Howard Dean” to pop out of their wombs....
Eeeeeeeuuuuuuuuu!
Well this very conservative mother doesn’t want her daughter taking birth control.
Using birth control is a personal decision for conservatives as well as liberals. Forcing insurance companies to pay for birth control is a separate matter but as usual the left is going to blur the issue with a false equivalency that most sheeple won’t pick up on.
The issue is not contraception. The issue is freedom
Correction Howard Dean, Conservative Women Buy their own damn Birth Control because they have jobs and recognize the concept of personal responsibility and are not wanting to steal from others via taxes or violate a religious group’s beliefs via the state to provide Birth control for “free” even though it really isn’t.
uh, well, okay and fine. They can get a prescription and pay for them. No reason I should have to chip in.
He, and the rest of the dems, even those sheeperal who are being intentionally obtuse,
know that the issue isn’t about “availability of contraception”.
The issue is “how many women and mindless screwers can we fool into voting for ‘rats and 0bama based on the lie that republicans want to outlaw birth control?”
They know (see my post above yours),
the whole “issue” is about getting enough votes to stay in power, even intentionally lying to do so.
When the end goal is heaven on earth,
ANY means can be justified.
the liberal left seems to hate abstainace AND reproduction at the same time.. something is out of whack with these peoples minds
my wife and I were young, newly married and not trying to have a baby and ended up with twins. and im glad. now my wife has a great career and is a great mom..she never had to pick one or the other
these people have a twisted view of the world
I can see the sense in providing ACCESS to Birth Control at the High School level. However, who in their right mind thinks it should be FREE? I could probably be convinced to subsidize less than half the cost of the Birth Control, with the goal of staving off Teenage pregnancy, but not FREE.
When you make something FREE (like School Lunches), it means that parents are no longer responsible for some aspect of their child’s life. Most people don’t want responsibility - it sucks. It’s so much easier to have someone else be the ‘bad guy’, to exercise the restraint - and allow one the freedom to do whatever they want to do, without responsibilties as to the consequences.
Provide FREE Lunches - parents don’t have to get up and fix their kids breakfast, or even pack a PB&J sandwich. They can spend that money on booze and drugs. Free Jackets? Why, that’s $40-200 that they can spend on something fun. But wait, why stop at food and jackets? Why not clothing, shoes and a shiny new car for every little tyke? It’s only the taxpayer who is paying for this stuff - we’ll just soak the rich, it’s not like they deserve the money they have earned. < /s>
It’s the “Cosmic Battle”, dude...
As Del Tacket said in “The Truth Project”,
you take any value that God reveals in the Bible,
derive the EXACT OPPOSITE of it,
and you’ll have the corresponding worldly value.
God’s value: sex is great within marriage, but don’t commit adultry.
Their value: “sex positive”, especially outside of marriage. Also notice that, in pop culture, they deride married sex as well.
God’s value: Children are a gift from God, they are His reward.
Their value: I don’t want my daughters punished with a baby.
And this very conservative father would take as much offense if any public school school or school employee were to offer my children birth control medication or devices as if a drug pusher were to offer them meth, LSD, crack, or any other drug.
We don't have that problem, because we home school our children.
But there are other factors : We deliberately, specifically, and directly teach our children that sex outside of marriage (and now we are forced to specify marriage between a male and a female) is sin, and we open the Bible in our home and teach the Scriptures calling fornication, adultery, promiscuity, effeminacy, etc., offenses against God's holiness and will for His children's lives.
Further, we would not consider taking our children to a church where the pastor(s) is/are afraid to preach passages like Hebrews 13:4,
"Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge."
One doesn’t have to be religious to see how off the rails these people are. I just hope more people wake up.
There must be an Alinsky rule about lying your ass off and then ridiculing anybody who calls you a liar.
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