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Why “Progressives” and not “Liberals”?
Townhall.com ^ | February 19, 2012 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 02/19/2012 4:21:06 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: RoadTest
It’s language control again. Remember “capitalism” substituted for free enterprise, by Karl Marx?

Let's just call them central planners and be done with it. I don't think Europe had seen a free enterprise system for centuries by the time Marx came around. There certainly was a problem with centrally planned economies. Marx's solutions were centrally planned, but "scientific." Keynes proposed "solutions" to Marx's "problems" with . . . a centrally planned and scientific "Capitalism." False solutions to imagined problems using "science" from great academicians have created and sustained almost every issue in modern economies. When it comes to most things, I'm for laissez-faire government, which should be interpreted as I am against government action into anything until you can demonstrate the intervention is going to be more beneficial than harmful. Some folks say that's libertarian, but I've seen "libertarians" argue some pretty retarded things, so I stick to the older term, laissez-faire. Everything else leads to a centrally planned system that is bound to fail.

21 posted on 02/19/2012 7:27:40 AM PST by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: hinckley buzzard
"Progressive" is a very accurate and descriptive term for the ideologues of the Left. It is the correct term we use for diseases which have no stop mechanism and which, undealt-with, lead only to death: Alcoholism; Alzheimers'; cancer; diabetes; drug abuse; liberalism.

Well put. I'm adding that to my profile page list of pertinent quotes; you're in good company.

22 posted on 02/19/2012 7:47:45 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Where's he getting these ideas? He's not smart enough to be that stupid all by himself.)
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To: Kaslin

Please, please let’s allow them to ditch the word liberal and move toward calling themselves progressives.

“Progressive” can evoke a question as to what they may be progressing toward. There’s a possible implicit negative connotation there.

“Liberal”, as other posters on this thread have pointed out, has a classic definition, conjuring up an ideological bent toward freedom, small government-more “laissez-faire”, if you will.

The left has gotten to power in large part by being very adept at semantics. This is a mistake on their part, choosing to describe themselves as something they clearly are. They are “progressing” us all toward a precipice, which is an illustration as to how this word cannot cloak their true desired course as the word “liberal” clearly has.

We should begin now to take the word “liberal” back, this is our opportunity.


23 posted on 02/19/2012 8:04:34 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: wayoverontheright

Agreed, take back the Liberal meaning.Thinking of this, I wonder if they are currently in the process of co-opting the name “Republican” in the same way they took over the meaning of “Liberal” and that is what is causing us to see so many so-called “Republicans” acting in ways we’d rather they didn’t. They at first are Progressive Republicans and that morphs into Republicans and TA-DA...suddenly the word has been stolen once again just as with Liberal???


24 posted on 02/19/2012 10:22:10 AM PST by Anima Mundi
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To: cizinec

Yes. Central planning is a major plank in the Liberal/Progressive/Leftist platform. Tyrant, too, is a word that’s starting to apply to their leaders.

There’s also a religious element in them. Human Sacrifice is dear to them. Over thirty million babies never got to see the light of day since Roe vs. Wade. That’s because they are eugenisists.


25 posted on 02/19/2012 10:39:59 AM PST by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: Kaslin

Good piece. The name changed, but it’s nothing new. Just check out what Woodrow Wilson did. You’d be hard-pressed to find a more racist, anti-Constitutional, elitist enemy of freedom of that time. And then read a bit about the Fabian Socialists. It will freeze your blood.

When Hillary said she was an “early 20-century Progressive,” she wasn’t just pulling “not-liberal” labels out of her, uh, sleeve ... it was deliberate. This movement has been working to destroy individualism and self-determination as envisioned by our Founders for more than a century.


26 posted on 02/19/2012 11:01:47 AM PST by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. (PursuingLiberty.com))
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To: RoadTest

You bring up the one issue that keeps me from calling myself a libertarian. You can’t be for freedom if you aren’t for an individual right to life, liberty and property (sorry, but the compromise change from ‘property’ to ‘pursuit of happiness’ was a mistake). If there is *any* question of whether a right exists or not, it *must* be decided with any error going to the right to life, which was listed first for a reason. Therefore, if there is *any* question concerning when a life begins, the state *must* err on the side of life. To do otherwise is to claim that one person’s right to privacy supersedes another’s right to exist. That’s simply ridiculous.

Liberals/progressives are neither liberal nor progressive. They support an ancient system where the masses bow to a higher authority, which is supposedly more wise than the subjects it rules.


27 posted on 02/19/2012 4:36:52 PM PST by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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