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To: T. P. Pole; greyfoxx39

30% of names still listed on church rolls are no longer active...t mormons these are all ‘jackass mormons” or ‘anti-mormon’ as the case may be

and the gentiles are all damned without posthumous proxy baptism of course

documentation doesn’t matter, to mormon the world is divided into morg and anti...a grey area leaves room for doubt and independent thinking

cant - have - that ...

research for yourself and don’t rely on me or him or a $multimillion$ lds soundbite with paid actors

google exmormon (no dash) and include welfare, “free labor” or “callings” and read for yourself

btw the first thing they train morgs to do if they encounter exes is to avoid discussion, say its a lie, failing that an error, failing that ‘it may happen at other wards not mine come visit”, failing that “oh thats ancient history we don’t do it anymore”

all lies...and while youre at it google exmormon, and include “lying for the lord” as a phrase...i posted documents about it yesterday, maybe someone will link as i’m out the door~A.~


26 posted on 02/19/2012 10:27:41 AM PST by AnTiw1
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To: AnTiw1
30% of names still listed on church rolls are no longer active...

Negative growth of MORMONism
 
 
 http://mormonism-unveiled.blogspot.com/2012/01/elder-marlin-k-jensen-confirms-mormon.html

50 posted on 02/19/2012 3:49:01 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: AnTiw1
interesting...while on the subject of tithing and temple recommends...

court case where a man lost his job at a mormon-owned gym because his bishop withheld his temple recommend (the certificate you get that allows you the ceremony to go to heaven and become a god, essentially)...at this non profit (naturally!...lds) gym, apparently in order to do an engineer's job you need your god license first

the court disagreed...decision and link follows...~A.~

Section 702 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, 78 Stat. 255, as amended, 42 U.S.C. § 2000e-1, exempts religious organizations from Title VII's prohibition against discrimination in employment on the basis of religion.1 The question presented is whether applying the § 702 exemption to the secular nonprofit activities of religious organizations violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. The District Court held that it does, and these cases are here on direct appeal pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1252.2 We reverse.

2* The Deseret Gymnasium (Gymnasium) in Salt Lake City, Utah, is a nonprofit facility, open to the public, run by the Corporation of the Presiding Bishop of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (CPB), and the Corporation of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (COP). The CPB and the COP are religious entities associated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Church), an unincorporated religious association sometimes called the Mormon or LDS Church.3

3Appellee Mayson worked at the Gymnasium for some 16 years as an assistant building engineer and then as building engineer. He was discharged in 1981 because he failed to qualify for a temple recommend, that is, a certificate that he is a member of the Church and eligible to attend its temples.4

4Mayson and others purporting to represent a class of plaintiffs brought an action against the CPB and the COP alleging, among other things, discrimination on the basis of religion in violation of § 703 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, 42 U.S.C. § 2000e-2.5 The defendants moved to dismiss this claim on the ground that § 702 shields them from liability. The plaintiffs contended that if construed to allow religious employers to discriminate on religious grounds in hiring for nonreligious jobs, § 702 violates the Establishment Clause.

5The District Court first considered whether the facts of these cases require a decision on the plaintiffs' constitutional argument. Starting from the premise that the religious activities of religious employers can permissibly be exempted under § 702, the court developed a three-part test to determine whether an activity is religious.6 Applying this test to Mayson's situation, the court found: first, that the Gymnasium is intimately connected to the Church financially and in matters of management; second, that there is no clear connection between the primary function which the Gymnasium performs and the religious beliefs and tenets of the Mormon Church or church administration;7 and third, that none of Mayson's duties at the Gymnasium are "even tangentially related to any conceivable religious belief or ritual of the Mormon Church or church administration," 594 F.Supp. 791, 802 (Utah 1984). The court concluded that Mayson's case involves nonreligious activity.8

6The court next considered the plaintiffs' constitutional challenge to § 702. Applying the three-part test set out in Lemon v. Kurtzman, 403 U.S. 602, 91 S.Ct. 2105, 29 L.Ed.2d 745 (1971), the court first held that § 702 has the permissible secular purpose of "assuring that the government remains neutral and does not meddle in religious affairs by interfering with the decision-making process in religions. . . ." 594 F.Supp. at 812.9 The court concluded, however, that § 702 fails the second part of the Lemon test because the provision has the primary effect of advancing religion.10 Among the considerations mentioned by the court were: that § 702 singles out religious entities for a benefit, rather than benefiting a broad grouping of which religious organizations are only a part;11 that § 702 is not supported by long historical tradition;12 and that § 702 burdens the free exercise rights of employees of religious institutions who work in nonreligious jobs. Finding that § 702 impermissibly sponsors religious organizations by granting them "an exclusive authorization to engage in conduct which can directly and immediately advance religious tenets and practices," id., at 825, the court declared the statute unconstitutional as applied to secular activity. The court entered summary judgment in favor of Mayson pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 54(b) and ordered him reinstated with backpay.13 Subsequently, the court vacated its judgment so that the United States could intervene to defend the constitutionality of § 702. After further briefing and argument the court affirmed its prior determination and reentered a final judgment for Mayson. http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/US/483/483.US.327.86-401.86-179.html

152 posted on 02/22/2012 3:48:03 PM PST by AnTiw1
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