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To: dead; tobyhill; zot

As I said in a similar thread:

I agree with Santorum. When I heard Obama’s National Prayer Breakfast speech, I wondered “Where did he learn that intrepretation of the Gospels of Jesus?” It was a near social justice and secular humanist versions of what Jesus said. He spoke of Jesus as a radical social reformer, seeking to change the power structure in ancient Israel. That he was focused purely on physical things of this world and not spiritual things of the next world.

Obama does not, in those words, shows that he understands or knows that Jesus came to save our souls and take us (our true selves, our souls, not these physical bodies) back to heaven to be with our Father.

The gospel that Obama learned is that of humanism and communism that he learned from his grandparents, Frank Davis, and “the reverend” Jeremiah Wright.


16 posted on 02/20/2012 11:14:58 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for your post #16. I agree.


55 posted on 02/20/2012 12:12:33 PM PST by zot
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To: GreyFriar
. . .Jesus came to save our souls and take us (our true selves, our souls, not these physical bodies) back to heaven to be with our Father.

I must object. While Obama's secularized gloss on the teachings of Christ is well outside the bounds of even a generously interpreted Christian understanding and Sen. Santorum is right to call him on it, and Jesus did indeed come to save our souls, He actually came to save us as whole persons. Christ said "I am the Resurrection", not "I am the transmigration of souls". He assumed our entire nature -- body, soul, mind, will and energies -- to redeem our entire nature -- body, soul, mind, will and energies. Our true self is our whole self. The idea that the soul bereft of the body is our true self is not Christian, but gnostic or neo-Platonic.

Just because Obama falls off the royal road on one side, do not fall off on the other in hastening away from his error.

62 posted on 02/20/2012 12:33:51 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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