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Malloy urged to probe NYPD Muslim spying
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Posted on 02/21/2012 5:51:29 PM PST by matt04

The Connecticut chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations is expected to join the Connecticut Civil Rights Coalition at a press conference Tuesday to urge Gov. Dannel Malloy to protect the rights of Muslim students in the state.

The coalition's request comes following the revelation that the New York City Police Department spied on Muslim students at Yale University in New Haven and other northeastern universities without warrants, legal jurisdiction or probable cause.

A press conference will be held at noon to ask Malloy to probe Muslim spying by the NYPD and will ask for efforts to protect Muslim civil rights by Yale University and local law enforcement.

The press conference will be held in front of New Haven City Hall on Church Street.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cair; islam; malloy; newhaven; nypd; yale

1 posted on 02/21/2012 5:51:40 PM PST by matt04
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To: matt04

I don’t have a problem with the NYPD monitoring muslims. I have a problem with them monitoring anyone outside of NY.


2 posted on 02/21/2012 5:52:55 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

A reasonable position, they were outside of their
jurisdiction.
The law suits being brought by these muslim front organizations will come back to hamstring us
when the time comes that we need to monitor
these fanatics.


3 posted on 02/21/2012 6:00:17 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: matt04
"The coalition's request comes following the revelation that the New York City Police Department spied on Muslim students at Yale University in New Haven and other northeastern universities without warrants, legal jurisdiction or probable cause. "

Absolute bullshit - there's plenty of probable cause. Every law enforcement agency in the U.S. should be tracking those murderous bastards.



Nos genuflectitur ad non princeps sed Princeps Pacem!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

4 posted on 02/21/2012 6:13:06 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa

The NYPD has no business conducting any such law enforcement activities outside of New York.


5 posted on 02/21/2012 6:32:03 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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FReepers?

Time to put this baby to bed tonight.

Less than $1.7 to go!!!

6 posted on 02/21/2012 6:36:41 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: driftdiver

Until we know the particulars of “why” the NYPD “spied” (i.e. monitored) Moslem students at Connecticut colleges, I suggest that we withhold judgment.

A couple observations based on many decades of investigative reporter on our internal enemies:
1. Students travel across state line, for good and evil. If something illegal is being planned in Connecticut, and those involved travel to NY, then they should be watched.

The legal question is “By whom”. Does the NYPD trust any Connecticut police agency, or do they feel that they have been coopted by the PC bug, far-left politicians (DeLaRosa, her marxist/crook husband, the New Haven communists, Hispanic leftists, other congressional leftists, local city council leftists, liberal cops)?

Having worked with several police departments in my time, I know that they segregated their intelligence operations from even the regular police units because of fear that local, radical and racial extremist politicians might get a hold of their work and expose it.

DC’s Mayor convict for life, crackhead Marion Barry, was up to his red neck in leftist affairs, and pal-ed around with other marxist local politicians including City Council members Julius Hobson, Eleanor Holmes Norton (the present non-voting DC representative in Congress), members of the Statehood Party led by marxist Hilda Mason, Norton, and Maurice Jackson, the head of the DC-VA Communist Party (he now teaches or teached for years at Georgetown Un.)

Other of Barry’s friends were criminals, political crooked cronies (bribes, contract fixing, etc), and drug-users.

Do you honestly think any police intelligence unit would want to trust him with internal security intelligence as well as criminal intelligence information?

Baltimore was just as bad; so is/was Cleveland, Philadelphia, and Detroit, under the Mayorship of Coleman Young, had a mayor, YOUNG, who was a lifelong member of the Communist Party USA, and many leading members of the Detroit City Council were well-documented CPUSA supporters and even activists with SOviet-KGB fronts such as the World Peace Council/US Peace Council.

In other states, even today, you will find marxist political figures, some with ties to the CPUSA (Arizona, Minnesota), DSA (many states, local politicians, city councils, including California), and even black extremist groups (NYC - Charles Barron).

Do you trust them with police intelligence information?

There is a lot more to this story than has been told so far, but unfortunately, the police often can’t tell their side of it because of security considerations.

As one who testified before Congress on communist penetration of the “peace movement”, I can tell you that key information I had about one important leader could NOT be made public for several reasons, but over the years, it has been shown to be not only true, but possibly a key to a Soviet espionage ring not yet uncovered (as far as is known), by the FBI.

Things are more complicated than you think, and the enemy stops at nothing to infiltrate, penetrate, subvert, deceive, and destroy our society.

To avoid keeping an eye on real or potential enemies because of Political Correctness, cowardice, or political pressure, is the best way to assure our destruction.


7 posted on 02/21/2012 6:36:42 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I don’t care why they spied on anyone outside of NY. They have a history of trying to enforce laws outside of their jurisdiction.

I can’t take my firearm into NY, even with my Florida CWP. screw NY


8 posted on 02/21/2012 6:41:09 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: matt04

So a terrorist connected organization wants Americans to stop spying on terrorists??
Never saw that coming!


9 posted on 02/21/2012 6:43:05 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Alberta's Child
I don't give a damn about such niceties as geographical "jurisdiction." We're at war with an implacable, insidious and totally mendacious cult bent on nothing less than securing the world for Allah - i.e. Sharia Law, and all the barbarities that it entails. In such a conflict, I would accept reliable intelligence however obtained.

I applaud the NYPD for its vigilance.



Nos genuflectitur ad non princeps sed Princeps Pacem!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

10 posted on 02/21/2012 6:56:34 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: driftdiver

I agree with you about the liberal/leftist crap over a lack of reciprocity between states over Carry Permits. My son, a federal police officer, ran into that problem, eventhough he was going to a work assignment in another state.

Remember, Bloomberg the Dumb, runs the city and Cuomo that Authoritarian, runs the state. However, I’ve worked with an NYPD intelligence officer and he was/is great. It’s the upper brass who have caved into PCism.

However, we cannot afford to let our guard down, esp. the intelligence operations that are our first-line of defense of the homeland (fuck the DHS, they are incompetent). The FBI is becoming a capon, day by day.


11 posted on 02/21/2012 7:27:43 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: ConorMacNessa
The NYPD isn't being "vigilant" here . . . they're running a police state.

If you think I'm kidding, just go back and see what they've been up to being "vigilant" by harassing law-abiding citizens selling firearms in other states.

12 posted on 02/21/2012 7:57:57 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child
Go back where? I assume since you're so certain that they're over the line that you can quote me chapter and verse. CAIR is nothing but a mouthpiece for the Muslim Brotherhood and I wouldn't give credence to anything they said. Have you ever heard of the doctrine of "taqiyah"?

The ones who are running police states are the radical Islamists - from Tehran to Dearborn. Soon coming to a neighborhood near you.



Nos genuflectitur ad non princeps sed Princeps Pacem!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

13 posted on 02/21/2012 8:15:25 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa
Here in New Jersey we had a situation back in the early 1990s that got a bit of media attention. Turns out the City was sending tax enforcement agents out to shopping malls all over northern New Jersey to record New York license plates and then follow up later by cross-checking them against New York tax records to see if these people were reporting their purchases on their New York tax returns. New Jersey has a lower sales tax rate than New York City and many items taxed in New York are not taxed in New Jersey, and NYC residents are supposed to report these purchases on their NYC returns and pay any differences in the sales tax.

There was a public outcry in the area, and owners of the shopping malls got together to consider legal action against New York City to put a stop to this in court. Their lawyers advised them that legal action was both expensive and unnecessary . . . and the best course of action would be to simply have the NYC law enforcement officials arrested for trespassing, since they had absolutely no legal right to do this in New Jersey.

Those legal protections are there for a reason. And over time it may well be that those legal protections are there to protect one jurisdiction from the actions of a police force filled with Muslims.

14 posted on 02/22/2012 4:13:19 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child
I can agree that the legal protections provided by the Constitution are necessary to protect individual rights vis-a-vis the government under normal conditions. Of course, the activist courts in this country have turned the rights of the accused into a shield that renders our criminal justice system impotent and favors the rights of criminals at the expense of the rights of law-abiding citizens.

Presently, we do not enjoy normal conditions. We are at war with the most pernicious cult in history and extraordinary measures are justified if not required. No less a champion of human rights than Abraham Lincoln suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War. It would not surprise me to see such action taken again in the very near future. The dire circumstances in which we find ourselves at present justify a number of measures that would be inappropriate in calmer times.



Nos genuflectitur ad non princeps sed Princeps pacem!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

15 posted on 02/22/2012 5:11:49 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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