Posted on 02/22/2012 8:49:20 AM PST by Qbert
Mitt Romney said Tuesday that cutting spending slows growth in the economy -- a rhetorical slip more akin to an argument a Democrat might make than a Republican.
Speaking in Shelby Township, MI, the former Massachusetts governor took a question about the Simpson-Bowles fiscal commission empaneled by President Obama to address the nation's deficit and debt issues. In his response, he said that addressing taxes and spending issues are essential.
"If you just cut, if all you're thinking about doing is cutting spending, as you cut spending you'll slow down the economy," he said in part of his response. "So you have to, at the same time, create pro-growth tax policies."
That sort of comment was sure to raise the eyebrows of fiscal conservatives in the GOP, who have long preached a message of fiscal restraint as a path to economic growth.
"It's hogwash. It confirms yet again that Romney is not a limited government conservative," said Andy Roth, the vice president for government affairs at the fiscally conservative Club for Growth. "The idea that balancing the budget would not help the economy is crazy. If we balanced the budget tomorrow on spending cuts alone, it would be fantastic for the economy."
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***UPDATE*** Romney spokesman Ryan Williams commented on the comments: The governor’s point was that simply slashing the budget, with no affirmative pro-growth policies, is insufficient to get the economy turned around. However, he believes that budget cuts – especially in the context of President Obama’s unprecedented spending explosion – are a step in the right direction. As he made clear in his economic plan, he believes that spending cuts that reduce the size of government and balance the budget are crucial to economic growth and job creation.
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Romney = Obama lite
Dear God! How did this fool become so rich?
- What on earth are you talking about?...
I’m talking about how they got there...
Agreed. MSNBC has purposely erased half his statement to get conservatives mad.
Judging by this thread, looks like the ploy (which is used all the time) worked once again.
- What on earth are you talking about?...
Japan’s economic problems, like ours, originated in huge asset “bubbles.” From 1985 to 1989, Japan’s stock market tripled. Land prices in major cities tripled by 1991. The crash was brutal. By year-end 1992, stocks had dropped 57 percent from 1989. Land prices fell in 1992 and proceeded steadily downward; they are now at early 1980s’ levels. Wealth shrank. Banks — having lent on the collateral of inflated land values — weakened. Some became insolvent. The economy sputtered. It grew about 1.5 percent annually in the 1990s, down from 4.4 percent in the 1980s.
Despite massive stimulus, rapid growth hasn’t resumed two decades later. Although the Japanese reacted slowly, they adopted the advice of economics textbooks. They raised spending, cut taxes and let budget deficits balloon. Gross government debt soared from 63 percent of the economy (gross domestic product) in 1991 to 101 percent of GDP by 1997. It’s now around 200 percent. The Bank of Japan (their Federal Reserve) cut interest rates, going to zero in 1999 — a policy that, with some slight interruptions, endures.
“I’m not defending Mittens, but the headline is a total distortion”
Not total, though misleading. Romney seems to be saying that thew government will still be taking money out of the economy via taxes while its cutting spenidng. Which is not to say that he’s ignorant of the relation between taxes and spending. That less spending removes the rationale for high taxation and puts downward pressure on rates. Only that he’s speaking to the lag between cuts and eventual growth. Because so long as the government continues to collect taxes which will not be pumped back into the economy through spending, however inefficiently, theoretically some capital will sit idly.
Romney underestimates the importance of spending beyond the tax yield, which comprises—what?—something verging on 10% of GDP. Cutting that would not leave idle tax revenue sitting around, and hence couldn’t negatively affect growth. He also seems all too willing to believe activity spurred by government spending constitutes something economically meaningful. But the MSM lives and dies by numbers, and whether the feds are digging up and filling in holes or inventing the internet, we pretend their spending is meaningful.
If hole digging numbers go down, people will say the economy’s slowing. They will blame the absence of the “multiplier effect” and “pump priming” of government spending. On that count, Romney’s point is taken. Though I can’t help but feel he’s wildly missing the mark. In what universe is it easier to slash spending than cut taxes? Why wouldn’t tax cuts follow spending cuts, once we’ve gotten over the spending cut hump? We’ve already had plenty of historic tax cuts. Spending cuts are the holy grail.
Hence, this is a phony problem.
You’ll appreciate this...
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/11/15/learning_from_japans_mistakes_107948.html
Yeah, the Japanese increased spending. Romney is saying that we shouldn’t cut spending, alone.
How is it a distortion? Yes, he also said something else, but he still said this. Either just cutting spending will slow the economy or it won't. He seems to have clearly said it will.
Mitt is now channeling Paul Krugman.
You can’t make this stuff up.
“How is it a distortion? Yes, he also said something else, but he still said this.”
Please.
“Please” is not an answer.
“Please” is not an answer.
Yeah it is, you just obviously don’t know gentle insults when you read them.
Mon Feb 20 2012 19:35:11 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time) · 357 of 496
mlo to bossmechanic
“Since 2008 I have never seen a point-by-point factual repudiation of the core “birther” arguements.”
Oh please. It’s been so beat to death here on FR that most of the people trying to correct birther silliness have grown tired of it.
If you wanted to brainwash Mittens, you would have to give him an enema.
If you wanted to brainwash Mittens, you would have to give him an enema.
Or, as Gene McCarthy said of his father, a light rinse would be sufficient.
Ruh Roh. Dole McRomney has stepped in it again. More Keynesian pap. You do get problems if you hit te brakes too fast, but you don’t need stimulus to fix it.
Mitt, you and your pacs have spent money like drunken sailors to buy you the office of the presidency. How is that working out for you??? Those coveted independents are not nearly as stupid as you make them out to be.
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