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Why Did Santorum Lose in 2006? (The reasons are too complicated for a 30-second debate answer)
Townhall ^ | 02/22/2012 | Byron York

Posted on 02/22/2012 9:59:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SamuraiScot
Spot on. Casey Jr. was billed as the second coming of Casey Sr. He turned out instead to be the second coming of another Scranton native-- Joe Biden. With the exception that he is smart enough to mostly hide and keep his mouth shut.

Casey Sr.'s tragic death was still fresh on the minds of many voters in 2006. Sort of like Robert F. Kennedy getting elected U.S. Senator from New York in 1964, another horrible year for the GOP.

21 posted on 02/22/2012 10:45:34 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Eyewitness report from Ground Zero:

- Bob Casey did everything he could to delude and mislead our massive legions of elderly voters into thinking he was actually his late father, a very popular Governor. You always heard about him but rarely ever saw him. I suspect a large number of our older voters thought they were voting for the late Governor.

- He reassured the huge number of Catholic voters that, like his father, he was pro-life, and he would never ever ever ever EVER EVER vote to pass a health care plan which would force us to pay for that. (suckers!)

- He ran around telling all our Seasoned Citizens that the reason they did not have even more free goodies from their Government was that the Eeeeeeevil Warmonger George W. Bush was taking all the money that should have been used to buy their prescriptions and free bus passes, and was flushing it all down a rathole in Iraq.

- The teachers union camped out on the lawn of Rick’s home and documented that he was rarely there. Then they, with massive amounts of help from the mainstream media, built up this big, ridiculous Potemkin Village issue that he no longer really lived in Pennsylvania, and, as a result, was ripping off the taxpayers in his school district for the online schooling of his kids.

- A lot of white, working class Pennsylvanians are just genetically pre-programmed to pull the lever for the Democrat, cause “they’re for the Workin’ Man!”

I realize little of that makes sense if you’re not from around here. Keep in mind this region kept sending a treasonous criminal back to the US Congress for 3 decades, simply because he brought home the pork. For the Workin’ Man!


22 posted on 02/22/2012 10:48:31 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I should also add that Casey was in some ways atypical of their Senate candidates, in that he was not an uber-Lib from Philadelphia. For years the Dems kept making the mistake of nominating guys like that (Harris Wofford, Joe Sestak, Bob Edgar, et. al.) who were so culturally offensive to white working class voters in other parts of the state, it sent them kicking and screaming into the GOP column.

Casey on the other hand was a Good O’ Boy from Scranton.
Like Slow Joe Biden, they were comfortable with him.


23 posted on 02/22/2012 10:58:54 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s hilariious “virulently anti-gay”? And also “racist”? And people would be “surprised” that he hired a minority?

I guess they would be, if they actually believed the lies told about Santorum.


24 posted on 02/22/2012 11:12:04 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: LambSlave
You forgot to mention Rick's price, which Specter did honor, Justices Roberts and Alito! A mere 40% of the votes that (I pray) will overturn Obamacare, 60% if you give Arlen credit for earlier enabling Justice Thomas. Against 1.6% of the votes cast for it in the Senate. And as for Arlen being the final vote needed to pass it I'm far from certain Olympia Snow wouldn't have flipped if necessary to get it through. If Justice Kennedy will just come through I'd say Rick's bargain was a good one regarding Obamacare. If he doesn't I guess you'll just have to blame the whole thing on Reagan for appointing the last Supreme Court vote needed to let it ride.

Had Toomey been nominated and lost we'd have had neither Roberts nor Alito, we'd have had two recordless RINO wimps. Had Toomey been nominated and won - a less sure win than Specter - he wouldn't have chaired the Judiciary committee, one of the other RINO squishes would have and probably wouldn't have gotten, at least, Alito through. It may be the only thing he was good for, but Arlen was capable, when motivated, of getting tough picks through the committee and he paid Rick's price. Specter's pro-abort friends should disown him.

25 posted on 02/22/2012 11:39:54 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Life goes on, the current year is 2012.


26 posted on 02/22/2012 11:46:56 AM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Specter claims the conversation never happened and that he made no deal, and if that is true the end result would have been the same. Regardless, making deals with the devil against Toomey, a true conservative who would have very likely won without this betrayal, is morally bankrupt.


27 posted on 02/22/2012 11:55:39 AM PST by LambSlave
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To: SeekAndFind

York also misses that young Casey was the son of an endangered species: a pro-life, Democrat Catholic politician, former Governor Casey. A nationally known governor who had been ditched by the DNC as Convention speaker. Catholic dems, who had been uncomfortable with other (spell that pro-choice) democrats felt completely comfortable voting for Casey the Younger. They owed that to his father.


28 posted on 02/22/2012 12:01:11 PM PST by Mach9
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To: US Navy Vet

Keep in mind, also, that Carville and Begala were running Casey’s campaign. They gave him the same advice as Obama got: just stand there and look presidential. Fool the people. Santorum used to beat the heck out of Casey in the debates, but Casey just kept quiet.

Santorum was the hardest working senator PA has ever had. He visited all 67 counties every year, was always available. One of the radio stations here in Pgh. plays “Where’s Casey?” He’s just plain lazy.

Also, remember we have one of the highest senior populuations in PA, and they vote. They thought Jr. was a clone of Sr.


29 posted on 02/22/2012 12:21:17 PM PST by mommyq
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To: US Navy Vet

Keep in mind, also, that Carville and Begala were running Casey’s campaign. They gave him the same advice as Obama got: just stand there and look presidential. Fool the people. Santorum used to beat the heck out of Casey in the debates, but Casey just kept quiet.

Santorum was the hardest working senator PA has ever had. He visited all 67 counties every year, was always available. One of the radio stations here in Pgh. plays “Where’s Casey?” He’s just plain lazy.

Also, remember we have one of the highest senior populuations in PA, and they vote. They thought Jr. was a clone of Sr.


30 posted on 02/22/2012 12:21:35 PM PST by mommyq
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To: LambSlave
This is the first I've heard of Specter denying it. I'm not saying he didn't, I just hadn't heard of it. And I know that if it comes down to a question of whom to believe between Specter and Santorum my choice is easy. I do know Toomey has forgiven Rick. I know I supported Toomey over Specter then and I think I even sent Pat $, but his chances were tight at best and certainly less than Specter's chances. I might have come down on Santorum's candidacy earlier absent Specter; he might have been my second choice instead of my third (after Palin and Cain) one. But I've forgiven him and am liking him more as time passes. His alleged conservative competition personally lost my support by giving a lecture to me and others favoring big government/ big business health care, stronger than any Obama ever gave, about 4 years ago. At least Romney then was saying different states could have different options. I heard Newt go all in for big health care 'reform' and can't trust his very recent week flip back. Rick has never been on that and life as gone overboard to teach him never to go there. As a doctor I want to maintain my personal 13th amendment protection. Rick is the only safe bet left against my involuntary servitude.
31 posted on 02/22/2012 12:42:17 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

I agree with most of what you say; I don’t believe a word the lying snake known as Specter says. I do not believe, however that the end justifies the means; Specter has been a blight on this state for so long, I would have loved to seem him go down in flames to a real conservative... it could have triggered a real change in mindsets about conservatism among the young and uninformed here in PA, who in principal are open to these ideas. Also, like many PA Pubbies, Santorum loves big government as long as it is for his pet causes. I do appreciate his taking a stand on moral issues, but he is not a conservative, and will not stop government from growing. I like him better than Romney or Newt, but he is no conservative... Paul actually is conservative, I have supported him for decades, but due to the hate here, I won’t say any more about that...


32 posted on 02/22/2012 1:46:43 PM PST by LambSlave
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In Virginia, Santorum kept his home-schooled children in a program run by the Western Pennsylvania Cyber Charter School. That cost Pennsylvania taxpayers thousands of dollars a year, and some of Santorum's political opponents demanded that he reimburse the state.

Make that $72,000, a nice bit of change. Regardless of the technical legality, this representative of the People ripped his local Pennsylvania taxpayers off. But, of course, Santorum's a lawyer-politician is well skilled in abusing the spirit of the office while hewing to its legal bounds.

Add this "me first" behavior to the enrichment of aides and lobbyists, rather than actually doling out grants via his "Good Neighbor" charity (only 38%), the appalling lack of "leadership PAC" funds that ever made it to candidates (18%). He has considerable baggage and the Pennsylavia press know it well.

He helped give us Obama's first Supreme Court nominee, Sotomayor, by voting to confirm her Circuit Court appointment from Bill Clinton. What about his insanity of personally introducing and voting for a half-billion over-and-above the $900 million Amtrak budget.

There's a host of other very questionable things that helped Pennsylvania voters decide to fire him by a huge margin.

A real conservative must look at Santorum and ask, what's so great about this guy? Looking deeper than his religious rhetoric, what's he really all about? How would he truly govern?

Reference:Santorum amendment to Transportation funding bill; Bill S.Amdt.3015 to S.Con.Res.83 ;vote number 2006-052 on Mar 15, 2006

33 posted on 02/22/2012 4:58:03 PM PST by newzjunkey (Santorum voted for Sotomayor, Obama's 1st choice for Supreme Court. Conservative?)
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To: US Navy Vet

The loss was personal. He was toxic. Any fair reading of his record shows why he still is.


34 posted on 02/22/2012 5:02:44 PM PST by newzjunkey (Santorum voted for Sotomayor, Obama's 1st choice for Supreme Court.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Did he say after losing, “You won’t have Rick Santorum to kick around anymore”? :) just askin’


35 posted on 02/22/2012 5:09:46 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: Mike Darancette

RE: Did he say after losing, “You won’t have Rick Santorum to kick around anymore”? :) just askin’

Speaking of Richard Nixon ( who said the above ), he LOST to Kennedy in 1960 and then went on to lose the next election in 1962 running for governor of California ( this inspite of HUGE name recognition ).

Those who point to Santorum’s 2006 defeat as the end of his political career would probably have written Nixon off as a has been as well. You know what happened next.


36 posted on 02/22/2012 5:26:02 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: LambSlave

It was Ben Nelson and the “Cornhusker Kickback” that gave us Obamacare. His was the last vote. His was the capitulation.


37 posted on 02/23/2012 8:46:29 AM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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