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To: Steamburg

They did not overplay this hand in 2006, they very effectively painted Santorum as completely extreme and unacceptable, and Santorum lost his re-election bid by 17 points. I watched it happen folks, and nothing has changed with him between then and now.

This is exactly what I believe will happen in a national race, Santorum had no answer to this in 06, he’s got none now, and he will be trounced.

Santorum was rejected by PA voters after 2 terms in office for very very big and real reasons, the painting of it as simply, he endorced spectre, or it was a bad democratic year, are complete kool-aid drinking nonsense. He lost because the left targeted him, painted him as extreme, using his own words and deeds against him, and he had no answer to it, and was lambasted by an opponent that literally spent the campaign avoiding the public and saying anything.


23 posted on 02/24/2012 6:29:36 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
They did not overplay this hand in 2006, they very effectively painted Santorum as completely extreme and unacceptable, and Santorum lost his re-election bid by 17 points. I watched it happen folks, and nothing has changed with him between then and now.

This is exactly what I believe will happen in a national race, Santorum had no answer to this in 06, he’s got none now, and he will be trounced.

Of course you are correct, but unfortunately many people just don't want to hear it.

If Santorum is the nominee this election will turn on social issues - many that have been long since decided by the public. Rick's advisers will try to get him to steer clear of this stuff, but Santorum won't be able to stop himself from being baited over and over again. Instead of an election about massive debt, high gas prices, etc, we will be talking about rubbers, birth control pills, porn, whether a woman should be at home making lots of babies or working, etc.

Santorum would lose in a crushing landslide defeat and Obama would have the massive mandate he needs to truly "fundamentally transform America". But hey, if that happens, at least the social conservatives will have finally had their candidate and be forced to realize that politically re-fighting long lost culture war issues is a complete disaster of an idea.

37 posted on 02/24/2012 6:46:22 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: HamiltonJay

Apparently they are not rejecting him anymore.

Poll finds Santorum surging among Pa. voters

By Jeremy Roebuck
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They are suburbanites and religious people, employers and retirees, millionaires such as John M. Templeton Jr. of Bryn Mawr and homemakers such as Loretta Hill of Devon. What they have in common is an admiration for Rick Santorum.

“No matter what you think about his social views, he’s willing to hold his ground,” Hill, 58, said. “I think that’s one of the things people respect about him.”

Pennsylvania’s Republican primary may still be two months away, but the presidential campaign of the state’s former senator is already raising the excitement level of his supporters back home.

And a new poll suggests their numbers are growing.

Buoyed by victories in Iowa, Minnesota, Colorado, and Missouri and by surveys suggesting strong showings in next week’s Arizona and Michigan votes, campaign operatives now seek to challenge the conventional wisdom that Pennsylvania’s more moderate Republicans have already lined up behind former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

The needle may be moving. A Franklin and Marshall College poll released Thursday gave Santorum a nearly 30-point lead over Romney among Pennsylvania Republicans - a far cry from what some expected in a state that tossed the senator out on his ear in 2006 with an embarrassing 18-point rout.

The poll conducted Feb. 14 to 20, which had a margin of error of plus or minus 5.9 percentage points, found that 22 percent of GOP voters here were undecided.

“There’s a growing support here, like nationally, for someone like Rick - someone who wasn’t Pennsylvania’s top choice in December,” said James Lee, president of Susquehanna Polling & Research. “I think a lot of Pennsylvanians are giving him a second look.”

Key to Santorum’s Pennsylvania push will be the Lehigh Valley and Philadelphia suburbs, seen as his weakest points of support in the state. In recent weeks, backers in those areas have hosted fund-raising dinners hoping to give voters a fresh take on their former senator.

Meanwhile, campaign aides have worked to allay fears among moderates that Santorum would seek to legislate his conservative personal beliefs on contraception, abortion, and gay marriage.

Albert Ostien, 84, a devout Catholic retiree from West Chester, has received the message. He said Thursday that although he shared many of Santorum’s socially conservative views, he would advise taking the approach of the nation’s first Catholic president.

“Kennedy kind of left the church at the door,” Ostien said. “Santorum has his beliefs, but I don’t think he’s out to tell people what to do. You can’t force people to do things.” (Actually, Santorum has criticized John F. Kennedy’s stance on church-state separation.)

Philadelphia’s four suburban Pennsylvania counties handed Santorum some of his biggest losses in 2006 despite being held by Republicans at the time. In Montgomery and Delaware Counties, Democrat Bob Casey Jr. trumped Santorum by nearly 24 points.

In the latest Franklin and Marshall poll, nearly 60 percent of the 592 registered Republicans surveyed hailed from central and western parts of the state, considered the base of support for Santorum, a native of Western Pennsylvania. Those numbers prompted one veteran GOP operative, former Delaware County Council member Wallace Nunn, to dismiss the results.

Most of the Philadelphia area’s GOP establishment is not wavering in its support for Romney, he said.

“I just don’t believe when the primary comes about, he’s going to be as popular as this poll is showing,” said Nunn, a Romney backer. “And if Santorum can’t win here, he can’t win anywhere.”

Eustace Mita, a Media real estate developer serving as Santorum’s national finance chairman, conceded that fund-raising in the suburbs had not always been easy.

“Ten months ago, when I was making calls, no one gave us a chance,” Mita said, chalking it up to Romney’s portrayal as the inevitable nominee. “Democrats are willing to give to the candidate that best meets their ideology. Republicans want a return on their investment.”

Mita, who is relatively new to campaigning, wants to change that. In late January, he and relatives were hosts to the candidate at a Chester County fund-raiser. Along with Santorum stalwarts, the group included a few GOP voters yet to make up their minds, said Hill, who attended.

“There were a number of people that came in fresh and were very impressed with what he had to say,” she said.

In 2006, Santorum’s strongest suburban support came from religious-values voters, including the Pennsylvania Pastors Network, a group run by former Chester County Commissioner Colin Hanna. Financial help came from Templeton, an evangelical Christian who heads the Templeton Foundation.

Hanna and Templeton are once again key supporters. Hanna and his wife have donated $5,000. Templeton has emerged as Santorum’s largest financial backer in the state, giving more than $1 million to the so-called super PAC backing Santorum, and appearing at fund-raisers across the Philadelphia suburbs.

But this time, such supporters are talking less about religion and more about their candidate’s blue-collar roots and economic platform.

“You really have to look at where Rick is in terms of the economy,” Mita said. “He’s been able to articulate that better now than he did in ‘06.”

After taking that look, David Service of Huntingdon Valley, who runs an employee-benefits firm, has made up his mind.

“The guy speaks my language,” Service said. “He’s pro-life, he treats his family well. You need someone who offers a clear distinction to beat [President] Obama in November.”

 

Contact staff writer Jeremy Roebuck at 267-564-5218, jroebuck@phillynews.com, or @jeremyrroebuck on Twitter.


70 posted on 02/24/2012 7:41:44 AM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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