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Church does not OWN marriage
BBC News ^ | 02/25/12 | BBC News

Posted on 02/24/2012 11:18:47 PM PST by EnglishCon

The Church does not "own" marriage nor have the exclusive right to say who can marry, a government minister has said.

Equalities minister Lynne Featherstone said the government was entitled to introduce same-sex marriages, which she says would be a "change for the better".

Her comments come as ministers prepare to launch a public consultation on legalising gay marriage next month.

Traditionalists want the law on marriage to remain unchanged.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; ungland
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To: DNA.2012

Great...use a source from Great Britian for your opine. Perhaps you should try a Country where a Church was created to allow King Henry to divorce his wife so he could break one of Gods laws.


61 posted on 02/25/2012 2:41:02 AM PST by JohnD9207 (Santorum...the only Conservative in the race.)
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To: EnglishCon

This is not Britain, I naturally did not expect that we were going to devote an entire thread on this marriage topic to British law.

If your people are so under control of your state church that you can replace the secular government, and your people want to transfer authority to them, then give it a shot, in this nation we are free, and Anglicans don’t rule us.

I hope that you have the guns to force your church rules onto the Muslims and homosexuals, and atheists, and such.


62 posted on 02/25/2012 2:41:55 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12

I’m not pretending. I’m fully aware of the risk.

If you want strict rule about the type of behavior that is acceptable, say so. Just understand that bequeathing the govt with that kind of power can bite you in the ass.

G’night FRiend.


63 posted on 02/25/2012 2:42:03 AM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: DNA.2012

Great...use a source from Great Britian for your opine. Perhaps you should try a Country where a Church was created to allow King Henry to divorce his wife so he could break one of Gods laws. Gee does Government own my car because it requires me to buy a license?


64 posted on 02/25/2012 2:42:24 AM PST by JohnD9207 (Santorum...the only Conservative in the race.)
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To: DNA.2012; Gene Eric

Your entire argument is to let anyone and everyone define marriage for themselves, that there will no longer be a universal definition in America.

That means that all religions, all churches, all individuals, all atheists, all cults, all homosexuals, define marriage for themselves.


65 posted on 02/25/2012 2:45:14 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: Gene Eric

That isn’t logical.

Because the law is showing cracks in a few states, we just give up and end the entire concept of one man, one woman, marriage,or even monogamy, forever, and that is better?


66 posted on 02/25/2012 2:49:15 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: JohnD9207

You might wish to check which post you were trying to reply to.


67 posted on 02/25/2012 2:50:40 AM PST by DNA.2012
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To: ansel12
Kindly read post #58.
68 posted on 02/25/2012 2:52:08 AM PST by DNA.2012
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To: DNA.2012

I read it earlier, it didn’t make sense.

States that are already slipping because their voters are liberal, are not going to pass that, or even a much better written version of that fantasy.


69 posted on 02/25/2012 2:57:57 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12

Your inability to comprehend something does not render that thing nonsensical.

It’s borderline perfect.

But I leave you to your hopelessness.


70 posted on 02/25/2012 2:59:52 AM PST by DNA.2012
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To: DNA.2012

Sorry if I offended you...not seeing well this early.


71 posted on 02/25/2012 3:01:44 AM PST by JohnD9207 (Santorum...the only Conservative in the race.)
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To: DNA.2012

Fine it is perfect and will solve all divorce and child issues.

How do you expect to pass it in states that are just now or recently passing homosexual marriage?


72 posted on 02/25/2012 3:04:31 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12

I think the point is that the state is going to use legal power to force churches to perform marriage ceremonies for couples that are not a man and a woman.

It would be one thing if the state just wanted to force its own registry offices to do this, in which case it would be a question of conscience for employees who do not agree on moral grounds, but would not exert power on the churches themselves. The state and the gay lobby are not satisfied with this, however.


73 posted on 02/25/2012 3:10:40 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

The government won’t be forcing preachers to show up at their Southern Baptist church in Texas, or anywhere else, and perform marriages that they don’t want to.

They can’t even make a Catholic Priest marry a Lutheran and a Methodist.


74 posted on 02/25/2012 3:16:28 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12

Come on mate. I asked a simple question of you. And I know you are fully capable of insightful analysis, telling it like it is and honesty.

Stop[ evading and answer the question. This sinner wants to know.


75 posted on 02/25/2012 3:43:25 AM PST by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: EnglishCon

What question are you asking?


76 posted on 02/25/2012 3:49:37 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12; JRandomFreeper
"Marriage predates Christianity."

Of course it does. Everybody knows that. Jesus Himself said it was from "before Moses," that it was "from the beginning."

What Jesus did was to restore and ennoble it even further: One man. One woman. For God. For good.

77 posted on 02/25/2012 3:55:29 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Make love. Accept no substitutes.)
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To: EnglishCon

The Church doesn’t own it - God does and He considers it holy and sacred. I still marvel that Job lost everything except the shrew of a wife - God blesses the union of a man and a woman even if only one is actually fulfilling the duties.


78 posted on 02/25/2012 3:56:52 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: EnglishCon

You don’t mean that we are still at you trying to introduce polygamy and homosexual marriage do you? Is that your agenda, or do you want to enslave everyone to the particular church that you attend?


79 posted on 02/25/2012 3:56:56 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: EnglishCon
Though I am a firm supporter of free, faithful, sacred fertile union of one man and one woman --- I too wonder how the federal govt. could stop polygamy. I don't mean that they should *approve* and *license* it, I just mean why should they butt into a private contractual agreement?

I'm open to discussion on this, one way or the other.

My default position seems to be: I am highly skeptical of civil marriage.

80 posted on 02/25/2012 3:59:53 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Make love. Accept no substitutes.)
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