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1 posted on 02/25/2012 8:08:13 AM PST by lilyfreeper
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To: lilyfreeper

I just do not get it: Why do all these self-styled experts think that Romney was so much more likely to succeed than Bob Dole or John McCain?


2 posted on 02/25/2012 8:10:17 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: lilyfreeper
My assumption was that Romney would be the nominee and would make a good run.

And what is it that they say about assumptions?

However, Cook's idea of a good run is a GOP nominee who would ensure Obama's re-election.

And if Tea Party values are so politically unmarketable, then how did they trigger such a massive GOP landslide in 2010? Nothing has really changed since as far as Obama's hard-left policies - if anything, they have been shown to be an utter failure - witness all of the green-oriented failures Obama has promoted.

3 posted on 02/25/2012 8:13:57 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: lilyfreeper
"And even if he does, he has twisted and turned himself into a human pretzel. I’m not sure how electable he is. The alternatives, however, seem even less so."

I'd agree. With $5 gasoline, 9% unemployed, and 19% underemployed, I don't see how Obama is electable. My conclusion is that nobody can possibly be elected in November.

4 posted on 02/25/2012 8:16:10 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: lilyfreeper

Charlie Cook is a leftwing pol. He’s part of the MSM machine whose job it is to talk Obama up...and the GOP down.

No surprise.


5 posted on 02/25/2012 8:17:00 AM PST by kjo (+)
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Obama is going to lose on his failed energy policy. All any of the “unelectable” conservatives has to say, is “those are my personal views, and they are enacted into law or policy only if passed on by the House and Senate and found to be Constitutional by the courts. So they are much like President Obama choosing not to wear jewelry for Ramadan.” Meanwhile, Obama spokesmen are ridiculing “drill here , drill now” as fantasy akin to “planting magic beans “ or “sprinkling pixie dust” to solve energy woes. The real fantasy ,however, is that you can leave trillions of dollars of resources in the ground and not blow a hole in the economy. So Obama goes on from windmills, which don’t work; to electric cars, which no one but his cronies wants to buy; to algae. If gasoline goes over $4 and stays there, he’ll lose; if it doesn’t, that will mean that the rising cost has already blown a hole in the economy, and he’ll lose. It’s the same problem as four years ago, and he did “zerO” to fix it. That’s where the election will be framed, and the Obama people know it and are panicked. That’s why they’re out there setting up all the straw men.


9 posted on 02/25/2012 8:22:47 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: lilyfreeper

Charley Cook: Republicans will fail [if I do my job right]


12 posted on 02/25/2012 8:26:02 AM PST by DManA
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To: lilyfreeper
And the "blame the conservatives" meme begins. Mr. Cook, I would not be surprised if the GOPe would intentionally torpedo the candidacy of a Gingrich or Santorum to maintain a hold on power.
Why do I get the feeling the US is already in a civil war (with the people on one side, and whatever you want to call them on the other), and that sooner or later lead is going to fly?
16 posted on 02/25/2012 8:35:36 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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We have $4 per gallon gasoline, fast on its way to $6.50 per gallon.

Examine just WHY gasoline, though plentiful according to stocks on hand and immediately available reserves, shot up to $4/gallon or so in September and October 2008, yet had dropped to less than $2/gallon by the time Obama took the oath of office.

It was speculators then, just as now. People notice immediately if the price of gas is rising, but not so much when it falls. There are competing groups of speculators, those who will bid up the futures delivery of gasoline (or other commodities, for that matter), thereby panicking others to get in on the high and rising market, then commencing a dump just before the general perception comes to people that are otherwise sensible about such matters, realize the quoted price is unsustainably high, and take a loss while liquidating. Menwhile, the bottom feeders that had engineered the price spike in the first place are scrounging around and snapping up all these discounted sales for which the previous holder had taken such a drubbing, and deliver on their contracts at the discounted price, but with still a healthy margin for themselves.

One of the participants in this scheme in 2008 was the George Soros financial octopus, initiating internal trades among their several dummy companies, and therefore creating the panic atmosphere that led to the sharp price rise. Since by this time they were playing with other peoples’ money, they could well afford to dump AFTER the election of 2008, and still come out ahead financially, meanwhile having created an issue which put their figurehead in office.

But this time, there are several other participants in the price run-up, very likely a consortium of banks and large holding companies, manipulating the price ahead of time, with the goal of providing relatively LOW prices BEFORE the 2012 election, thereby “proving” that the Obama plan for economic recovery is working.

Yet nobody will call shullbit on this tactic.


18 posted on 02/25/2012 8:37:19 AM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: lilyfreeper
Hey Charlie; you are sounding like someone 'whistling past the graveyard.'
19 posted on 02/25/2012 8:40:10 AM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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Charlie, The only one fading in this race is the obama led socialist democrat party. Take your head out of your rear end and pay attention son. The american people have caught on to who this fraud is despite the coverup by the socialist frauds infested in the MSM. Obama is one and done because even he can’t create enough voter fraud from illegals, acorn and the multitude of ignorant people still backing is sorry rear end to counter the american people.


23 posted on 02/25/2012 8:50:55 AM PST by spawn44
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Charlie Cook, totally misread and mispredicted the Republican massive landslide in 1994. Enough said. Mr. Cook, fine fellow that he is lives in Never/Never land, and....is far from the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Mitt Romney will yield the same negative result as John McCain brought forth in 2008. Pubbies, better come up with a true blue conservative this time. Why? The free nation we live in is at stake!!! A vote for Romney is a wasted vote!!!


25 posted on 02/25/2012 8:53:16 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy POTUS Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: lilyfreeper
Prior to founding his newsletter in 1984, Cook worked on Capitol Hill for then-Senator J. Bennett Johnston, Jr., a Democrat from Shreveport who served from 1972-1997. Cook also worked for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, and the Democratic Policy Committee. In addition, he worked as a pollster and campaign consultant and on the staff of BUILD-PAC, the political action committee of the trade association, the National Association of Home Builders.[4]

The above from wikipedia - so just why should I care what this man - Cook - who hates Republicans - thinks? Thinks about anything?

27 posted on 02/25/2012 9:05:00 AM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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Where these analysts fail big time is they perceive 0bama as a left of center moderate rather than the far left radical commie the rest of us sees. It doesn’t really matter who the GOP nominates. The media will say he is too conservative and the voters will consider him a reasonable alternative to the crazy man in the White House.


34 posted on 02/25/2012 9:50:46 AM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: lilyfreeper

All these experts have already forgotten the disrespect Obama showed to Catholics and Christians with the HHS mandate. he literally stared right into Timothy Cardinal Dolan’s eyes and lied to him.

None of these scenarios of the 2012 election have included the fallout over this serious mistake by Obama. I know a lot of good Catholics who managed somehow to convince themselves that it was OK to vote for Obama because he and the Democrats favor the poor people, and anyway, they always vote for Democrats. When I spoke to them in 2008 several admitted some reservations about it. I believe Obama will lose minimally 2-4% of his previous supporters over that issue alone. It ought to be 10%, but there you have it. Just my humble opinion. It will be a silent vote of protest. People do not like to have liberal bullies pushing them around, and this adnimistration’s disrespect for religious convictions is over the top.


38 posted on 02/25/2012 10:09:58 AM PST by Gumdrop
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Let’s see......$5.00 a gal. for gas (and a refusal to drill)unemployment at at least 10%, attacks on the 2nd ammendment, attacks on religious groups to pay for abortions and contraception, attacks on the constitution (ie Ginsburg and Obama comments that the constitution is out of date, OBAMACARE (the majority of Americans want it repealed). The bottom line the pubbies have the issues and if we lose with either Romney Gingrich or Santorum then shame on us.


41 posted on 02/25/2012 10:25:01 AM PST by kenmcg (How)
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i thought the article would be about congress.
gop picks up 12+ seats
the senate is in the bag
and well the prez??
too soon to tell.
90% unemployment
$5 gas
1.5 trillion deficits
mid east in chaos
europe in flames (just wait)
and i would not be betting on b.o.


45 posted on 02/25/2012 11:27:51 AM PST by genghis
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To: lilyfreeper

If the conservatives would just sit down and shut up and let the liberal elitists in the GOP drive the car... What would happen? We saw what happens.

The GOP becomes and permanent minority and loses races for President. They have no agenda for reform; they just react and beg to tweak socialist and globalist thrusts made by the Leftists. For example, Romneycare.

If we are going to lose anyway, I would rather we lose and kick and shove (figuatively speaking) liberals along the way which is better than losing to the most liberal of the liberals running for office without any challenge to unconstitutional centralized power, globalism, political correctness and corruption at all.

I want liberals exposed, hurting and mad after every election. Only 8% of the nation’s voters are liberals! How dare them take over both parties and expect the rest of America to shut up about it.


48 posted on 02/25/2012 4:28:28 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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It is becoming quite clear that the conservative base of the Republican Party is driving the car.

Well, you pretty much have to be a grown-up to see over the dash, so....

49 posted on 02/25/2012 9:14:04 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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