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Oscar's filter: Worldview, not artistic merit, helps unpopular films dominate the Academy Awards
WORLD ^ | 2/25/12 | Megan Basham

Posted on 02/25/2012 10:31:50 AM PST by rhema

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To: Borges

They don’t have to be a flop, my statement was they often don’t make money, because that’s the truth. Lots of Oscar nominees and winners are kicking around in the low revenue section. Nobody gets an Oscar bump anymore because nobody is in the theaters anymore when the Oscars are handed out.


21 posted on 02/25/2012 1:11:58 PM PST by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: Borges

And let’s not forget that POTC was quite simply a terrible movie. Some of the worst directing not by Ed Wood ever, just plain heavy handed with a terrible pace.


22 posted on 02/25/2012 1:14:40 PM PST by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: Borges

SIL was a very nice concept for an afternoon soap opera for girls. I have smarter farts.

Although Gwyneth Paltrow almost saved it.

Remind me - what was the theme again?

Remind me also - which - WW2 film - had a similar theme to SPR?

Or - does your depth of analysis stop at “they blew up a lot of stuff - and killed some Germans” - and “SIL is wicked intellectual - it has Shakespeare, and stuff”.


23 posted on 02/25/2012 1:26:23 PM PST by Eldon Tyrell (question,.)
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To: Borges

I liked The Help and Moneyball.


24 posted on 02/25/2012 2:01:24 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Biggirl

Nope, producers and directors determine the politics, of the actors. Unless they have somehow became superstars without revealing their political persuasion.


25 posted on 02/25/2012 2:10:50 PM PST by itsahoot (Much easier to tear down a building, than to build one. Bigger mess though.)
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To: Eldon Tyrell; Borges
Not exactly on point, but - speaking of WWII: The envelopes please . . . (2/27/42)

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26 posted on 02/25/2012 2:19:39 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Eldon Tyrell

SIL was written by Tom Stoppard...one of the world’s greatest living dramatists. It was filled with his typical wit - a Romantic comedy that was actually romantic and comic.

SPR was a combination of all the war movies Spielberg had ever seen...war is hell (Sam Fuller), war is father figures (Oliver Stone), war is absurd (David Lean, Stanley Kubrick), war is necessary (John Ford), war is surreal (Francis Coppola), war is exciting (Robert Aldrich), war is upsetting (all of the preceding and Lewis Milestone), war is uplifting (ditto)—and nothing that suggests an independent vision.


27 posted on 02/25/2012 4:29:06 PM PST by Borges
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To: discostu

If a film is out of theaters by the time the Oscars are given out it will frequently get re-released.


28 posted on 02/25/2012 4:30:22 PM PST by Borges
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To: rhema

Everybody wants their taste and worldview verified by some silly Awards, Grammys, Oscars. Include me out!


29 posted on 02/25/2012 4:36:13 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Borges
"There wasn’t anything in the latter we hadn’t seen before in many other WW2 films."

With the exception of not a single false moment (well, absent Ted Danson's cameo).

30 posted on 02/25/2012 6:26:24 PM PST by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: Borges
SIL was a more original film than SPR. There wasn’t anything in the latter we hadn’t seen before in many other WW2 films.

Utter nonsense. WWII movies were antiseptic and dated. "Saving Private Ryan" showed for the first time what those guys actually went through. It had a real impact on the nation.

31 posted on 02/25/2012 6:31:43 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Borges

Not anymore. Re-releases are a rarity, unless they can come up with a “good” excuse like making it 3D. In this modern cinema world where the DVD release is scheduled for 4 months after the theatrical release most of the Oscar movies are not only out on DVD they’ve been out for a while by the time the trophies get handed out, theaters don’t want a movie that’s competing with its DVD. The age of the Oscar bump has passed, didn’t even survive into this century.


32 posted on 02/25/2012 6:33:48 PM PST by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Name a single element or emotion from that film that was new apart from the technology to replicate what Kurosawa had done with battle scenes in Ran. What impact did it have? I learned just as much from those old Time Life books about WW2. It’s a fairly impersonal film (as opposed to ‘Schindler’s List’).


33 posted on 02/25/2012 6:47:36 PM PST by Borges
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To: rhema

Rise of the Planet of the Apes, The Three Musketeers, and Sherlock Holmes II were all very entertaining.


34 posted on 02/25/2012 6:57:20 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Borges

SIL was “Friends” in costumes.


35 posted on 02/25/2012 9:52:21 PM PST by Eldon Tyrell (question,.)
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To: Borges

And by the way - you skipped answering the questions.

Go troll someone else.


36 posted on 02/25/2012 10:04:20 PM PST by Eldon Tyrell (question,.)
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To: Eldon Tyrell

“SIL was “Friends” in costumes.”

Idiotic comment. Literary critics as renowned as Harold Bloom and M.H. Abrams liked ‘Shakespeare in Love’. I explained very clearly how every aspect of SPR had already been seen in other films. It’s a banal and cliched film complete with an A-Team style ‘Getting in Gear’ montage.


37 posted on 02/25/2012 10:27:51 PM PST by Borges
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To: napscoordinator

“...Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close was so boring!!!”

I agree with you on that. I got dragged into seeing it. I told the person who wanted to see it that the movie wasn’t what she thought it was gonna be.

The movie was annoying. The kid in the movie was annoying. He was a freaking basketcase! I wanted badly to reach into the screen and duct tape his mouth shut.


38 posted on 02/26/2012 12:48:21 AM PST by MplsSteve (Amy Klobuchar is no moderate. She's Al Franken with a nicer smile.)
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To: rhema
Every year I hate these squalid, evil whores of Babylon just a little more...and I hear Billy Crystal is planning to do lots of jokes about the GOP primary.

Since we're not watching anyway, I guess he's not afraid of driving away still more audience...

39 posted on 02/26/2012 10:08:59 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: rhema
I watched "The Tree of Life" alone--because I didn't really want to explain why I wanted to watch what is clearly an art film when I usually hate such things.

It was not the usual thing I enjoy, but if you can leave a lot of expectations at the door it is a beautiful thing to watch. More like a poem than a story.

Was made by a conservative, so it can't win for BP.

40 posted on 02/26/2012 10:16:37 AM PST by Mamzelle
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