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JOIN THE FIGHT! VFW Says Pay And Benefit Changes Will End All-Volunteer Military
VFW ^ | 2/23/2012 | Teresa Morris

Posted on 02/25/2012 2:40:05 PM PST by katiedidit1

The DOD budget unveiled February 13 recommends 1.7 percent military pay raises for 2013 and 2014, followed by a scant 0.5 percent increase in 2015, and 1 percent in 2016. Also announced were plans to almost quadruple Tricare Prime enrollment fees for some working age military retirees, impose Tricare for Life enrollment fees on those older than 65, and introduce enrollment fees and increased deductibles on Tricare Standard and Extra users. Included in DOD’s healthcare revenue plan are increased pharmaceutical copayments for retirees as well as military dependents.

DOD also recommends reducing the size of the active force by more than 100,000 troops over the next five years—mostly soldiers and Marines—through attrition, a reduction in force, mandatory retirements and high year of tenure separations, among others

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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; All

you say” Military pay and benefits just cannot continue as they are right now”

Really. FAR LESS than the pols in DC. Go after them first.
As to not retiring at after 20 years? Go through what many of them do - whch will guarantee you nightmares for life (if you’re lucky, that’s the worst) - and moving, uprooting family every 3 years and no choice as to where you go.

That said - why don’t you go worry about cutting these funds down first. Then come talk to us.

You think the military gets too much?
$11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare
to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
Verify
at: http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd8

$22 Billion dollars a year is spent on food

assistance programs such as food stamps,
WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify
at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

3.
$2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on
Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

4.
$12 Billion dollars a year is spent on
primary and secondary school education
for children here illegally and they
cannot speak a word of English!
Verify
at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt....0.HTML

5.
$17 Billion dollars a year is spent for
education for the American-born
children of illegal aliens, known as
anchor babies.
Verify
at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

6.
$3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to
incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

7.
30% percent of all Federal Prison
inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at:

http://transcripts.CNN..com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt...01.HTML

8.
$90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on
illegal aliens for Welfare & social
services by the American taxpayers.
Verify
at: http://premium.cnn..com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01..HTML

9.
$200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed
American wages are caused by the illegal
aliens.
Verify
at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI

13.
In 2006, illegal aliens sent home

$45 BILLION in remittances to their
countries of origin.
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at:. <http://www/..rense.com/general75/niht.htm
total cost is a whopping
$ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS

$338,300,000,000.00

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How about cutting back on gov’t jobs? Obama increased those by 100,000 almost out of the gate. And their starting salary and bennies are WAY above military.

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I would think that cutting the military by 100,000 personnel would save enough so as not to cut military pay any further. But saving money is not the real goal. Destroying our military is. Are you wearing blinders or???

I humbly suggest, since you’re so concerned about our tax money - you start at a few other places that our military...get those cut down to size and get back to us.


21 posted on 02/25/2012 4:39:54 PM PST by maine-iac7
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To: af_vet_rr
You think they want the typical American voter/taxpayer knowing how well they have it?

Notice we never see any mention of the promises that were made back when they first started pushing Obama Care.

Back then the democrats said that the new medical plan would give everyone the same medical plan that congress had.

But that promise vaporized just like everything else politicians promise to get elected.


22 posted on 02/25/2012 4:42:45 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: maine-iac7

One of the BEST post EVER in regards to the military. I am saving this and if okay with you passing it on in my emails and more...bravo!


23 posted on 02/25/2012 4:44:11 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I don’t see any Military service in your profile.

Did you serve and for how long?

I did 21 years - mostly because I was “promised” free health care for life and 1/2 my base pay if I did 20.


24 posted on 02/25/2012 5:04:16 PM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: katiedidit1

please do - God Bless our Military


25 posted on 02/25/2012 5:26:05 PM PST by maine-iac7
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To: maine-iac7

going to send it all over...btw..I viewed the most touching welcome home of our troops on military.com and the link is crowd cheers troops at airport. I thought ..if they only knew:(


26 posted on 02/25/2012 5:29:17 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: maine-iac7

The nation’s defense is one of the few legitimate Constitutional jobs of the federal government. Just what we spend on Nancy Pelosi’s free flights for her family and in-flight booze would go a long way for some military families...

I feel like the government is the group that looks at the budget for a family that lives on peanut butter sandwiches and forces them to pay for caviar, champagne and hot tubs for the rich cockroaches in Congress.

Remember the story that the prophet Nathan told King David when confronting him about seducing Bathsheba and then killing her husband? It was a story about a man who had one lone pet sheep that he loved as a child, and the rich neighbor having a guest who came but didn’t want to kill any of his own flock so he went and took the neighbor’s pet sheep and killed it to serve his guest. David was incensed to hear about how that precious sheep had been stolen and killed by someone to whom it was mere piddles. King David said that man should surely die. And Nathan told David, “You are the man.”

The US government is that man. I despise them. All of them.


27 posted on 02/25/2012 5:34:40 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: katiedidit1

Now they want to get political??? Now they want to get involved?? I have been BEGGING the VFW to just get involved, and have a look at what is really going on with this administration and it’s attitude towards our men and women in uniform..But it’s always the same...they look up from their beer and tell me we don’t get involved with politics!...

Sorry folks this gets me mad when they have this much people and clout and do nothing but watch our country dissolve from within...EXAMPLE: Recent contraception issue is really an attack/over reach, to weaken the constitution...Who defends the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic?....But yet nothing but chirping sounds from the VFW on this issue...


28 posted on 02/25/2012 6:20:46 PM PST by OL Hickory (Jesus and the American soldier-1 died for your soul/1 died for your freedom)
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To: katiedidit1
The Marxists running America today want a return to a military draft. They are doing all they can to discourage volunteer enlistment so that they can create justification for re-instituting the draft.

Along with the draft, they will use the same justification for mandatory service in a "civilian" service corp, the justification of which will be further supported by the numbers to young people who will file for conscientious objection. "Okay, don't want to serve in a military force, here is your alternative form of service . . . mandatory."

This will all be supported by the radical feminists who will insist on the conscription of females along with males. The purpose for this where the Marxists are concerned is to further destroy the family, get women out of their homes (especially aiming at traditional Christian families which still teach honor for home-oriented wives and mothers ; women who find their fulfilment in the home raising children).

Marxists like Obama's ilk must do all they can to make the federal government (soon to be a "national" government rather than federal because states rights are disappearing) our father and mother, uncle and aunt.

29 posted on 02/25/2012 6:29:41 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: butterdezillion; All
The US government is that man. I despise them. All of them.

Which is way we need Newt - he is not one of them and he knows who and what they are. He has said he will keep even ONE holdover. He will have no foxes in the hen house. It will be a clean sweep - and break the back of the Shadow Gov't that controls both houses.

This is why they fear him so. WE must pray for him - bucking this group is what got JFK killed. He wouldn't play ball. He saw them for what they are.

In his time, it was the demRats - since then, then have infiltrated the R Establishment as well. They all have to go.

Newt is the only one who can break them up. But he has a big bulls-eye on his back. I'[m sure he knows it.

This is what we are up against- - so few realize it. They will not give up easily

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR5m1-5ksj0

Live link next post

30 posted on 02/25/2012 7:07:14 PM PST by maine-iac7
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To: butterdezillion; All

live link per above

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR5m1-5ksj0


31 posted on 02/25/2012 7:08:05 PM PST by maine-iac7
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To: maine-iac7
Agree. Newt is our only hope..God help us if he loses. I read that Obama is going to send our troops to Syria. Damn political correctness garbage is making me so damn mad. I am glad my father is not alive to see this garbage.

my husband did 2 tours in Nam and 3 in Korea. He is furious. Could not print what he says about Obama.

I fear the establishment republicans will destroy Newt..Romney said he was going to keep his boot on Newts neck. Can sense the hate for Newt and even on Faux News. It is rampant..Imus called him a fat maggot. Unbelievable! Newt grew up in a military home and traveled all over with his step father. When your spouse serves in the military..the family serves too. Newt wore coke bottle glasses as a child but he educated himself. Loved what he said about the young Andrew Jackson during one of the debates ...how a young Jackson was bayonetted across the face as a child and later when they asked him what to do with the enemy..Jackson said KILL THEM. Newt knows what we are dealing with and he wont cater to the muslim TERRORISTS

32 posted on 02/25/2012 8:02:53 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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Whose got our troops backs? Will you help just a bit? Can you give 10 minutes of your time?

Send the following out to everyone in your ‘mailbox’ - AND to you’re representative in D.C., just to remind them that WE KNOW.

These are the men they think should have cut pay, cut benefits, longer time before retirement. Those law makers couldn’t survive ONE DAY like this.

http://restrepothemovie.com/home/trailer/

No one has been able to explain to me why young men and women serve in the U.S. Military for 20 years, risking their lives protecting freedom, only get 50% of their pay. While Politicians hold their political positions in the safe confines of the capital, protected by these same men and women and get these retirement benefits ...

” Members of Congress are eligible for a pension
at age 62 if they have completed at least five years of service.

Members are eligible
for a pension at age 50 if they have completed 20 years of service, or at any age after completing 25 years of service. The amount of the pension depends on years of
service and the average of the highest three years of salary.
By law, the starting
amount of a Member’s retirement annuity may not exceed 80% of his or her final
salary.”**************

So they have a much sweeter deal than out military and now they want to cut the military even more.

This administration HATES the military and intends to cut them everywhere they can.

Do you remember obama’s first attempted strike against the military right after he became president? He wanted to make the wounded troops pay for their treatment out of their private insurance - that scared even the dems and it didn’t get off the ground. But the mind set is there.

Even John Stewart was outraged.

This is funny - but disgusting.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-march-17-2009/that-can-t-be-right-—veterans—health-insurance

Meanwhile, they are trying to cut military pay and insurance again and increase their payment and retirement time. Meanwhile, they have the best insurance plans going and have rendered themselves exempt from the Healthcare Reform... in all of its forms.

Then, when he froze Social Security for 3 yrs, he tried to also freeze military pay for 3 yrs...that went over like a lead balloon, so he gave them the smallest increase since Korea. And all this in a time of war.

SUPPORT OUT TROOPS - Call YOUR reps.

I urge you look at this short clip of our troops in the infamous Korengal Valley, at the tiny, now famous, firebase “RESTREPO” - award winning movie available on DVD and netflix. the stars? The men themselves, the plot? Cameras running in real time, WAR as it is for our troops.,

This clip was done by award winning photojournalist, Tim Hetherington, who embedded with them for months. It’s called ‘Sleeping Soldiers” - he snuck up on them when they were sleeping - and then put their photos on screen with ACTUAL scenes from their deployment superimposed over them. It is haunting. (Tim became ‘family’ to the platoon and it’s families. He was killed in the beginning of obama’s illegal actions in Libya.)

http://vimeo.com/18395855

Can you spare 4 minutes of your time to honor our troops by watching this? Maybe send it to your reps with a question?

“You want to cut these troops pay and benefits and retirement? Why don’t you cut the FAT out of your own cushioned benefits? And why don’t’ you demand that obama’s new Taliban Advantage ROE that are now killing our troops at record numbers be RESCINDED. Their blood is now on YOUR hands.”


33 posted on 02/26/2012 9:12:43 AM PST by maine-iac7 (call your reps.)
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