Birth Control Isn’t Really About “Women’s Health.” It’s About…

BigThink ^ | 02/17/2012 | Pamela Haag

[dr_lew]

Please note: Samuel Colt, not Samantha Colt.

But a gun is not always handy. Remember that scene in Cape Fear when Gregory Peck’s wife tried to face down Robert Mitchum with a poker, and he just stood there until she dissolved in tears and dropped it on the floor ... ?

... that was great.

[eclecticEel]

No woman ever became pregnant all on her own; abortion never has been and never will be a “women’s issue”.

[TigersEye]

Don’t many birth control devices and pharmaceuticals increase health risks? And they want us to pay to increase health problems in others?

[oldenuff2no]

I'm sorry they aren't always handy both wife and I have ccw’s and carry all the time. If we leave the house we are armed and if we are at home something is within reach.

[mdmathis6]

“Here we arrive at solidarity of Biblical piety with Godless materialism”

Unless the married lovers had the Song of Solomon as their guide. The marriage bed is undefiled, according to the Bible.

[bdog2995]

Men do go around having sex as much if not more than women but we have no control in the outcome of these encounters. We can't decide that we don't want to be responsible like women can. Men are forced to pay child support for their unwanted pregnancies or are forced to stand by while their child is murdered against their will. MEN HAVE NO CHOICE! Women can have sex all they want and when they get pregnant they look to zip up the fathers income for 18 yrs possibly more for juniors college also. When a man get a woman pregnant he has everything to lose... a woman gets pregnant and she can win the lottery if he's rich (athletes,doctors,etc). How many women do you know that pay thousands a month in support and the kids live so far away they can't see them and the kids call stepmother Mommy. Now ask yourself...How many men do you know in that situation? It's a no-brainer people!!! Give men the same right to abort fatherhood as women have to abort motherhood. Men have no choice!!!We are at the mercy of any floozy who wants to rape your income for their dream of being babies momma! Lets put an end to this kind of discrimination against men!

[USMCWife6869]

I agree with everything you say. In a perfect world, casual sex wouldn't exist, and these problems would go away. But taking the circumstances we have, men absolutely get screwed. It is common practice around military bases for girls to get these young guys, lie and tell them they are on the pill, then get pregnant. Then the kid has to either pay up or she goes to his command. You wouldn't believe how common this practice is. Should they not be sleeping around? You bet. But our society has told them its ok.

I had a kid come in the store to buy some condoms, and he was complaining about how expensive they were. I told him, "Honey, the alternative is much, much worse."

[Jim Noble]

Agree totally.

As I have posted here repeatedly, access to free female birth control as a political issue is about fornication and nothing else, and, since the American voter is in love with fornication and thinks about it (and pornography) all the time, the fear of losing it becomes a powerful weapon in the hands of the Democrats.

[Tax-chick]

Pay your own way like an actual adult would do.

The whole point of Leftism is that someone else has to pay ... for everything.

[trebb]

This whole discussion is not about birth control it is about controlling women's sexuality and ability to have sex with reduced risk. You may object to it for moral or ethical reasons but that is what the argument is all about.

Yes - at reduced risk of "The sword of damocles" in the form of unwanted pregnancy - or as stated, carefree, recreational sex. Why should we pay for someone else's "recreation"? If you want to play, take your own dang precautions and/or ensure your partner does. It's another case of not taking personal responsibility.

[Atlas Sneezed]

I don’t think anyone in the history of humanity has sincerely uttered the phrase: “Darn, I can’t afford to have sex.”

[thirst4truth]

We can't decide that we don't want to be responsible like women can.

The "choice" for all is before sex, whether to have it or not, period.

I told my sons that if you decide to have sex before marriage just remember there is a big chance that if the girl gets pregnant and has the baby, you will be forever intertwined with that woman, for the rest of your life you will have to talk to, see and deal with the mother of your child.

[ridesthemiles]

$9 a month today??

WWWhhhhooopeee!!!

It cost me closer to $20 a month 35 years ago, when I was making about $8 an hour.

Today, women spend more on a cell phone than they do on their own health.

They have drawn into an upside down world.

They want to chatter incessantly to whomever about NOTHING, then they want me, their employer, to pay for their no consequences sex life.

Truly amazing!!!!!!

[Road Glide]

“As I have posted here repeatedly, access to free female birth control as a political issue is about fornication and nothing else”

Jim, Loretta Lynn beat you to it, and decades ago:

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You wined me and dined me when I was your girl
Promised if I`d be your wife you`d show me the world
But all I`ve seen of this old world is a bed and a doctor bill
I`m tearing down your brooder house `cause now I`ve got the pill

All these years I`ve stayed at home while you had all your fun
And every year that`s gone by another baby`s come
There`s gonna be some changes made right here on Nursery Hill
You`ve set this chicken your last time `cause now I`ve got the pill

This old maternity dress I`ve got is going in the garbage
The clothes I`m wearing from now on won`t take up so much yardage
Miniskirts hotpants and a few little fancy frills
Yeah I`m making up for all those years since I`ve got the pill

I`m tired of all your crowing how you and your hens play
While holding a couple in my arms another`s on the way
This chicken`s done tore up her nest and I`m ready to make a deal
And you can`t afford to turn it down `cause you know I`ve got the pill

This incubator is overused because you`ve kept it filled
The feeling good comes easy now since I`ve got the pill
It`s getting dark it`s roosting time tonight`s too good to be real
Aw but Daddy don`t you worry none `cause Mama`s got the pill
Oh Daddy don`t you worry none `cause Mama`s got the pill

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Ain’t nothin’ no one’s gonna do about this no’ more.

Like it or not, the concept of “contraceptive freedom” seems dear to women, not only liberal ones, but a sizable cohort of “conservative” women, as well.

Arguing about contraception is a losing issue for conservatives. Even if it portends the end of civilization, it’s -still- a loser.

Best course of action is to just change the subject....

[DNA.2012]

Give men the same right to abort fatherhood as women have to abort motherhood.

Wrong. What needs to be done is to give fathers a veto over the abortion death of their child.

And give fathers the right to raise - not visit - their own children regardless of marital status.

[oldenuff2no]

I didn't say I supported it or that I want to pay for it I just defined the discussion. Point in fact that is being totally ignored on this board is that for each of the pregnancies that you don't want to pay for there is a man making a very intentional contribution. Why are we not bringing him into this financial equation? You are placing the entire burden of being pregnant on the woman.
How does that work????? Are you sexist, irresponsible, or do you feel that men just can not make the proper choice to not impregnate a woman?

[oldenuff2no]

Men do go around having sex as much if not more than women but we have no control in the outcome of these encounters.

What planet are you from??? Have you never heard of a condom???? Or just saying no because you do not want to take the risk of paying child support for the next 18 years?
People in here preach individual responsibility but I guess it does not apply to men when their pants are down.

[DNA.2012]

Why are we not bringing him into this financial equation?

Men bear the majority of the financial cost of raising children, whether married or divorced.

[DNA.2012]

It is women who get out of responsibility: they either kill the child between conception and birth or if the child is born the man winds up paying the financial costs to raise the child.

[oldenuff2no]

You need to open your sexist eyes. If a man is paying child support to a woman then that woman is raising that child and it is a huge job. You directly imply that while the man is burdened with child support the woman has no responsibility and does nothing. WRONG!!! I, a man, raised two daughters alone for a dozen years. I have done many things in my life but that is the hardest job/responsibility that I have ever had.

Bringing a child into this world takes two people. Both usually do so willingly. At the point of conception biology makes things different for the man and the woman. Different questions and answers with different consequences. Everything is not equal because the burden of pregnancy and parenthood is not equal between men and women. You will never be able to define that perfectly equal place with the biological situation being so unequal. That is why the laws will never be straight up equal.
Yes I know a few mothers who have had to pay child support and they needed to.