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To: traditional1

Elaborating on one of your points:

The dirty little secret about wind power is that if it’s going to feed into the grid (as opposed to intermittent stand-alone generation on a farm or such), it’s got to be backed up by conventional power units.

The grid can’t tolerate sudden drop-offs on the input side, and the wind has an annoying habit of picking up and dying down without a whole lot of warning. If wind is supplying any significant fraction of the load at any given time, and all of sudden the props stop spinning, somethings got to rev up to compensate, or the grid is going down. And that’s where the back-ups kick in. So with new wind farms, gas-fired generators (or the equivalent) are going up as well to keep things functioning.

Just think of those fossil-fueled generators as alternative alternative energy.


15 posted on 02/26/2012 11:33:43 AM PST by Stosh
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To: Stosh
"Just think of those fossil-fueled generators as alternative alternative energy"

Yeah; fossil-fueled backups! LOL

With the EPA FORCING fossil-fueled generation to be de-commissioned (un-economic retrofits to meet trumped-up emissions Regulations), the effort to FORCE taxpayer-funded "alternative energy" forms of generation (of course, OWNED by "enterpreneurs" who just happen to be HUGE DONORS to the Democrats) will further increase the PRICE of power, and customers will pay twice (once, in increased taxation for the subsidies, and once for their actual electric bills).

I once was told that we would have power from the sun itself, once BP came up with a way to meter it.....

17 posted on 02/26/2012 11:44:59 AM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Stosh
it’s got to be backed up by conventional power units.

And that's "hot" or "spinning" backup. It takes over 12 hours to fire up a boiler and get the turbines spinning from a cold start. So while they are on hot standby they're consuming fossil fuel.

24 posted on 02/26/2012 1:52:35 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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