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To: rovenstinez; krunkygirl

You can’t possibly be a conservative and be a libertarian at the same time. Libertarians like Ron Paul, Andrew Napolitano, Gary Johnson and John Stossel are leftists in every way except they believe in an anarchist’s approach to government. They believe in open borders, legalized drugs, legalized prostitution, dismantling our military, the rights of states to secede from the union, etc. The libertarian agenda is a radical agenda that would absolutely destroy this country. It would be wrong to dismiss Ron Paul as a nut. He’s a clever opportunist, building up a cultlike following for his own personal profit, but the ideology he is pushing is a poisonous, ignorant and dangerous one.

Newt Gingrich is the only guy in this race who is for true reform based on common sense and the constitution and is willing to challenge the establishment to get it done.


18 posted on 02/26/2012 4:07:36 PM PST by JediJones (Watch "Gingrich to Michigan: Change or Die" on YouTube. Best Speech Ever!)
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To: JediJones
If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories.

The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

22 posted on 02/26/2012 4:28:45 PM PST by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: JediJones
Then I guess Ronald Reagan wasn't your idea of a conservative:

"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals." If we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is. Now, I can't say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don't each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path".

--Ronald Reagan


26 posted on 02/26/2012 5:51:17 PM PST by giotto
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