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Did Newt Gingrich Just Win In Michigan? (His plan to win is patient, simple and clever)
American Thinker ^ | 02/29/2012 | Richard F. Miniter

Posted on 02/29/2012 6:14:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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Heads I win, tails you lose because either way Gingrich will be the only conservative alternative to Romney.
1 posted on 02/29/2012 6:14:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Going to be with Newt in Gainesville, GA tonight!
GO NEWT!!


2 posted on 02/29/2012 6:17:03 AM PST by georgiagirl_pam (STEP ONE: SECURE YOUR DOOR (gives you more time to get your gun!) mysafedoor.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

Should be interesting because I think Limbaugh is right, the GOP elites now desperately fear Romney getting the nomination and then getting his clock cleaned. If that is true we can count on them to exercise their usual duplicity and steer the nomination to Santorum or Newt before sabotaging them later on in the fall.

Given their well-documented hatred for Newt, that appears the most likely. Throwing a loyal soldier under the bus who saluted and endorsed Specter would create other problems for them.


3 posted on 02/29/2012 6:17:36 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

O’Reilly had Newt on his show talking about how to get the gas prices to $2.50 and guess who agreed with Newt’s methods right after the interview? Karl Rove!!!!!


4 posted on 02/29/2012 6:24:07 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Ron Paul and Romney in alliance to take out the conservatives in this election)
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To: SeekAndFind

Santorum’s arrogance and ignorance lead him to take on Romney in Romney’s own state. STUPID.

Newt knew that would be a waste of money and energy so used Rick’s weaknesses to his (Newt’s) advantage.

This is who Newt is ....

” Newt provided strategic counsel to the Pentagon and Secretary of Defense on how to better address threats facing the United States. He is also the longest-serving teacher of the Joint War Fighting course for Major Generals at Air University and taught officers from all five services as an honorary Distinguished Visiting Scholar and Professor at the National Defense University.

In 1999, Gingrich was appointed to the United States Commission on National Security/21st Century, the Hart/Rudman Commission to examine our national security challenges as far out as 2025. The Commission’s report is the most profound rethinking of defense strategy since 1947.”


5 posted on 02/29/2012 6:26:00 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
-- I think Limbaugh is right, the GOP elites now desperately fear Romney getting the nomination and then getting his clock cleaned. --

I really don't think they fear that, at all. What they fear is the "party faithful" abandoning the party, and also losing downticket. The GOP wasn't unhappy when McCain and Dole lost. Heck, McCain even kept his nice job in Congress - no loss at all, and in fact, he probably enjoyed campaigning as a break from the routine in Washington, DC.

I think the GOP wouldn't mind at all if Romney won the nomination then lost in the general. What I think they fear is that their charade is being uncovered, and that a substantial fraction of the voters insist on less government.

6 posted on 02/29/2012 6:28:18 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Reagan69

THE NEWTRON BOMB !!! GO NEWT !


7 posted on 02/29/2012 6:28:25 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: georgiagirl_pam

Have a great time tonight! He looks like he is having fun with the algae solution Obama proposed. I heard a guy call into Mark Levin and say he works with algae and Levin said “By the way...wouldn’t that process produce CARBON?” He said “Why yes!!”


8 posted on 02/29/2012 6:28:31 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Ron Paul and Romney in alliance to take out the conservatives in this election)
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To: SeekAndFind
Interesting analysis, but I gotta tell ya, I believe that it's wishful thinking. Gingrich did better than expected in both AZ and MI, and still was a distant 3rd in both races.

I like Newt, I support Newt, and I'm planning to vote for him, assuming that he's still in the race when things get around to my state. It will be nice to have a candidate where I don't need to hold my nose while pulling the lever.

However, I'm not optimistic. About the only things that I see happening are a Romney implosion (pretty unlikely) or Newt, Santorum, and Paul picking off enough odds and ends of states to force a brokered convention (a little more likely, but still not very).

9 posted on 02/29/2012 6:28:31 AM PST by wbill
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To: sheikdetailfeather
That in and of itself is a miracle! Rove never says one good thing about Newt.

Gives one pause.....

10 posted on 02/29/2012 6:30:07 AM PST by CAluvdubya
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To: wbill

Perry believes Newt can take Texas with 155 delegates. Newt feels he has a good chance in Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Texas, and hopes Washington state. He has been working California as well. We will see.


11 posted on 02/29/2012 6:31:42 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Ron Paul and Romney in alliance to take out the conservatives in this election)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think that’s true. The question is whether the voters genuinely want a conservative or not. The GOP establishment clearly doesn’t want one.

Santorum was exactly as big government and establishment as Romney and his entire Senate record bears this out. However, Romney is a genuinely unlikeable candidate, and I think for a while Santorum was liked better simply because he played up the little Ricky from humble roots story and his social issues conservatism.

But there’s really no substantive difference between them, and the question now is whether voters really want someone with an entirely different take on things and, if so, whether Gingrich can get his message out in time.


12 posted on 02/29/2012 6:31:50 AM PST by livius
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To: wbill

If Santorum can just complete his implosion by Super Tuesday, Newt will win BIG, because Romney simply doesn’t play well in the South.


13 posted on 02/29/2012 6:34:41 AM PST by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: SeekAndFind
No way did Newt get anything positive out of Michigan.

Romney won with his scorched earth negative campaign tactic once again, destroying his opponent rather than running on his record. Turn out was depressed and will likely stay suppressed for the general. Romney screwed his opponents, and has poisoned the general election for himself.

I thought voting against Obama would be one of the greatest votes in my lifetime and now I'm gonna have to drink a fifth of whiskey just to enter the polling booth in November.

14 posted on 02/29/2012 6:35:47 AM PST by Lakeshark (NbIttoalbl,cRwIdtaa)
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To: SeekAndFind

Newt couldn’t even beat Ron Paul in Michigan.


15 posted on 02/29/2012 6:39:24 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
That's about the only way for Newt to get close - take the south and pick off one other big state. I didn't know that he was competitive in CA. That's great.

I'll be happy to see him upset some old boy GOP applecarts. I'm not impressed with Romney, though I'd vote for him over Obama. It would just be nice to have a candidate I can support, rather than just "meh, at least he says he's not a Democrat".

I'm in NC (May Primary). I've seen one BO 2012 bumper sticker (I work near a college, it figures) and a handful of Ron Paul signs. Nothing for any of the other candidates. But then again, the primaries are so late here that things are usually decided, and there's not much turnout.

16 posted on 02/29/2012 6:41:37 AM PST by wbill
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To: SeekAndFind

Santorum lost by 3 percent.....Newt took 7 percent total. Something doesn’t look right here. I don’t want to say that Newt took votes from Santorum but........


17 posted on 02/29/2012 6:43:51 AM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: wbill

Don’t get down yet! It’s not over by a long shot!

DELEGATE RACE AS IT STANDS NOW:
Romney- 142, of those 26 are non-binding= 116 solid
Santorum- 59, of those 44 are non-binding= 15 solid
Gingrich- 32, of those 2 are non-binding= 30 solid
Paul- 20, of those 12 are non-binding= 8 solid

POPULAR VOTE TOTALS:
Romney- 1,746,046
Gingrich- 977,272
Santorum- 929,807
Paul- 462,187

Washington votes on Saturday. It is proportional with 43 delegates.
Look at the Super Tuesday Calendar.
Alaska 27
Georgia 76
Idaho 32
Massachusetts 41
North Dakota 28
Ohio 66
Oklahoma 43
Tennessee 58
Vermont 17
Virginia 49

These ALL proportional delegates. Now, tell me, which of these do you think Mitt is going to win? Massachusetts, of course. Ohio, maybe. Vermont, yes. Virginia, not if all of the Rick and Newt supporters vote for Ron Paul! And again, these are ALL PROPORTIONAL!

MITT CANNOT LOCK THIS THING UP FOR A LONG TIME! And anything can happen. Of course, there are no debates because Mitt and Rick chickened out, but you never know in this race!


18 posted on 02/29/2012 6:45:36 AM PST by georgiagirl_pam (STEP ONE: SECURE YOUR DOOR (gives you more time to get your gun!) mysafedoor.com)
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To: SeekAndFind
No matter how bleak his prospects appear, he does have a plan, that we can be certain of. And whatever it is, it is patient, simple and clever.

And he is still the smartest man in any room he enters!

19 posted on 02/29/2012 6:48:48 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: napscoordinator

Santorum was just on Fox and said most of Romney’s votes were already mailed in and Santorum said “I won Michigan when you look at the votes thereafter and I got more delegates than he did here because of the counties I won.” I contacted a friend of mine who is a Democrat there in Michigan and I asked who he voted for. He said he voted absentee for Newt “to work mischief...” in his words.


20 posted on 02/29/2012 6:50:04 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Ron Paul and Romney in alliance to take out the conservatives in this election)
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To: georgiagirl_pam
I hope you're right. We'll know by next Wednesday.

And you're right about VA being the key. My bet? Most people don't bother to show up in VA, period. That likely works in Paul's favor because his supporters are zealots. Doesn't really accomplish anything for Paul, but it DOES keep 40-odd delegates out of Mitt's pocket.

Mitt takes the NE, Newt gets the big banana (GA), and who knows about the rest. I heard that Santorum was polling well in OH.

21 posted on 02/29/2012 6:53:09 AM PST by wbill
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Should be interesting because I think Limbaugh is right, the GOP elites now desperately fear Romney getting the nomination and then getting his clock cleaned.”

That is interesting.

I missed that. Any backup in print of that part of his program as some Freepers post a few hours later?

Thank you.


22 posted on 02/29/2012 6:53:20 AM PST by Gat˙n(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I’ve been eating algae. It does indeed convert to gas.


23 posted on 02/29/2012 6:54:54 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: georgiagirl_pam

Huckabee Will Host a Presidential Forum on Fox News (Romney, Newt and Santorum will attend) (Saturday)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2852290/posts


24 posted on 02/29/2012 6:55:58 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Ron Paul and Romney in alliance to take out the conservatives in this election)
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To: wbill

If you’d like to help Newt out, making calls from the national phone banks, or in other grassroots efforts, here is the address:

www.newtsnetwork.com

www.newt.org/donate

There is still time to set Newt on fire once again... but only if EVERYBODY does their part and then some. Please consider helping, and asking your friends to help, also. Newt needs everybody on board. Thanks for considering.


25 posted on 02/29/2012 6:59:29 AM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Hey hey, this is great. Now, where can I watch Fox News live on my computer since we don’t have TV?


26 posted on 02/29/2012 6:59:47 AM PST by georgiagirl_pam (STEP ONE: SECURE YOUR DOOR (gives you more time to get your gun!) mysafedoor.com)
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To: SeekAndFind
Months ago I posted much derogatory comment regarding Newt. I have not forgotten the stupid things he has done, nor have I forgiven him. Unfortunately at this point, I will have to put up with him if he is the alternative to Romney.

As bad as Newt is on his inconsistencies and flip flops, he is very disliked in terms of the establishment type Republicans, and therefore is a far better alternative in my mind.

Romney can be counted on to go along with whatever the Rockefeller Republican wing of the party wants to do, and if it comes to that, I'd rather have someone who is more interested in slashing and burning the status quo.

27 posted on 02/29/2012 7:00:18 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Gat├║n(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer); Buckeye McFrog

Roger that.

Krauthammer has repeatedly referred to mitty as weak.
Last night on CNN, one of the post panel of talking heads pointed out lots of GOPes are surprised at just how “shockingly weak” mitty is.


28 posted on 02/29/2012 7:06:46 AM PST by moehoward
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I don’t want to say that Newt took votes from Santorum but........

For one, I sure hope he did, and from Romney as well. Gingrich should take every vote he can find and from every quarter.

29 posted on 02/29/2012 7:06:56 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

P.S.

I missed it because I did not listen to Rush yesterday. The truth is I never do. I can’t sit for 3 hours listening to him repeat himself over and over again when life is so short.

None the less, I do enjoy reading those transcripts when printed on FR.


30 posted on 02/29/2012 7:09:25 AM PST by Gat˙n(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Romney ultimately wins the GOP nomination what does that tell us of voters even within the Republican ranks - no less the general public? Arrogant, tall, smooth talking’ BS artists like Obama and Romney can bully, schmooze and Big Money their way to the election. Pathetic—I puke on the whole sorry state of affairs this joker of a process!


31 posted on 02/29/2012 7:11:30 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: John Valentine

Oh Yes. Newt just helped Romney win his home state. I don’t think that is good at all. Romney now has mojo which is the last thing he needs. Hopefully Santorum can win Washington....it is possible since it is a caucus and he is good with those. Newt is concentrating on Georgia. He will win Georgia on Super Tuesday and maybe another state but he only wants Georgia, the state that he lived in for 20 years. It is so strange that Romney is getting props for winning his home state.


32 posted on 02/29/2012 7:12:47 AM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: napscoordinator

Santorum probably had quite a few votes ceded to him in Michigan and in Arizona by Newt’s non-compete, there are also some who are very loyal to Newt and some who really don’t want Rick as well. I’ve really seen all I want of Rick and part of our problems are because of “Social Conservatives” who are not also “Fiscal Conservatives.” Newt Gingrich’s voting record on “Social” issues has been at least as good as Santorum’s, but when you look at the rest of the record, and then the accomplishments, and then the advancement of the “Conservative agenda”, and then his abilities and capabilities. I don’t believe I could possibily vote for anyone else for any reason as long as Newt Gingrich is on the ballot. He is an extrodinary individual for these extrodinary times.


33 posted on 02/29/2012 7:15:21 AM PST by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Saw that show, waiting for NEWT was the only reason I watched.

O'Reilly HOGGED the entire interview, Newt could hardly get a word in, with all of Bills "Yeah, Buts". He thinks he is smarter than NEWT??? give me a break.

Why doesn't O'Reilly just Masterbate INTERVIEW HIMSELF? Why schedule guests to rape? Can't stand O'Reilly.

34 posted on 02/29/2012 7:15:54 AM PST by annieokie
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To: SeekAndFind

Santorum’s loss in MI certainly made my vote next week in the OH primary easy: Newt. I was going to vote for whomever could stop the Mittster, but clearly that isn’t Santorum and I prefer Newt over Santorum anyway.


35 posted on 02/29/2012 7:18:04 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Reagan69
Newt's a pretty smart fella!!! YES he is.

Praying for a good NEWT night on Super Tues. Go NEWT

36 posted on 02/29/2012 7:19:24 AM PST by annieokie
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To: lonevoice

Go Newt!


37 posted on 02/29/2012 7:22:04 AM PST by Pride in the USA
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Santorum was right. On election day, he probably won, at least the delegate race. I just saw his results in Macomb County. He lost the county by 200 on election day, and by over 7000 when absentees are included. Seniors voted heavily against Santorum, or more accurately, for George Romney.


38 posted on 02/29/2012 7:22:34 AM PST by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
NEWT has the corner on the ENERGY issue, no one can touch him on that one.

Notice that Obama came out spewing the 3 point issue of the GOP:1.Drill now., 2. Drill now., 3. Keep on Drilling.

He was attacking NEWT GINGRICH, that is the only candidate that Obama is afraid of.

I WANT NEWT, NEWT, NEWT

39 posted on 02/29/2012 7:24:15 AM PST by annieokie
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To: wbill

Agree. I’m voting for Newt, but Romney, like it or not, will be the nominee. All we can hope for is that he fights 1/10th as dirty against Obama as he has against Republicans.


40 posted on 02/29/2012 7:31:43 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: SeekAndFind
Agree on Newt plans for MI. Believed he got played in FL and he realizes it now.

Newt went for FL and lost badly. Santorum went for MI and lost but managed a split of the Delegates.

They both have been burned by Mittens war chest. Maybe they have both learned to campaign smarter not harder.

Time will tell. If either of them starts campaigning heavily in Mass or Vermont well they have simply lost their mind no matter what the polls say.

One good thing Mittens spent a ton of money in FL and MI his war chest has to be several Million lighter.

41 posted on 02/29/2012 7:32:21 AM PST by Bailee (Vote Newt the Pitt bull we need.)
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To: Sacajaweau

TMI. I hope you have some bayberry candles...


42 posted on 02/29/2012 7:35:56 AM PST by Anti-Hillary (Under Romney's Governorship, MA. was the birthplace of gay marriage & socialized medicine in America)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wrong on several points, but one is this:
Last poll showed Santorum leading in Texas, huge.
The idea that Santorum cant play in the south is wrong.

And I dont see how Newt coming in 4th in Michigan is a Newt win. Yesterday was a Romney win, no matter how its spun.


43 posted on 02/29/2012 7:38:08 AM PST by WOSG (“Legion of Acceptibility”)
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To: CAluvdubya
"Rove never says one good thing about Newt."

I'm actually starting to pity Rove. This guy's job is to sell a thoroughly and obviously flawed mitty to us peons, while trying to retain some level of credibility. Talk about a suicide mission.

44 posted on 02/29/2012 7:40:28 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Bailee
TOTAL DELEGATES WON BY CANDIDATES SO FAR:

Romney 163
Santorum 83
Gingrich 32
Paul 19
45 posted on 02/29/2012 7:44:12 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Bailee

Delegates needed to win nomination: 1,144


46 posted on 02/29/2012 7:45:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: napscoordinator

It’s good if it saps momentum from Santorum while not adding any to Romney.

I think that’s just what happened.


47 posted on 02/29/2012 7:47:06 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine

I just think the whole thing is dumb. Our number one objective is to get Romney out of the nomination contest. The entire primary is a mess. I concede that Santorum should have told his supporters to support Newt in Florida. Newt should have done the same in Michigan. Washington is an unknown for now. Super Tuesday will result in all three getting places. However, if these two were really working together, they could have taken all the states on Super Tuesday except Mass. But no. They both have to be selfish and each one’s supporters are just selfish too. If we don’t get our acts together, we are going to hate the result. This is such a crazy primary especially since everything that should have been done was totally not done at all. I for one and probably the only one does NOT want a brokered convention. It will not work out well for us. I just seriously believe that.


48 posted on 02/29/2012 7:52:18 AM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Newt's either crazy like a fox, or crazy as a shithouse rat. Either way, he seems to be up to something........

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920


49 posted on 02/29/2012 7:53:02 AM PST by Viking2002
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To: Bailee; All
Agree on Newt plans for MI. Believed he got played in FL and he realizes it now.

Given his background in teaching war college(s) etc. I am curious as to what he and his team did aka having a Vince Lombardi moment, "Gentlemen this is a football" and review that debate and how as a military strategist how he lost and how he will prevent it in the future.

That conversation might be one for the history books that might be pointed too as a tipping point if he wins and goes all the way to POTUS...

50 posted on 02/29/2012 7:53:45 AM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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