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Syriana redux: The Middle East fragments
Asia Times ^ | 2/29/2012 | Brian M Downing

Posted on 02/29/2012 8:20:45 AM PST by combat_boots

National borders from the eastern Mediterranean to the Iranian border were made after the breakup of the Ottoman Empire in 1918. Britain and France, with little consideration for sectarian or ethnic realities, drew lines across the area and established the new countries of Iraq and Syria.

As authoritarian regimes disappear under the weight of the 2003 US invasion of Iraq and the ongoing uprising in Syria, regional boundaries may be redrawn by indigenous peoples and regional powers. Five new states could emerge: Shi'ite Iraq, Sunni Iraq, Sunni Syria, Greater Kurdistan, and Shi'ite Syria.

Shi'ite Iraq Sunnis governed the Mesopotamian area since the time of the

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hezbollah; islam; me; syria
Syria and Egypt used to be one country. Interesting, huh.
1 posted on 02/29/2012 8:20:53 AM PST by combat_boots
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To: combat_boots
Britain and France, with little consideration for sectarian or ethnic realities, drew lines across the area and established the new countries of Iraq and Syria.

An unfair criticism. There were no possible lines that could have given each group its own "nation." They've been intermixed for a thousand years or more.

Not that the Europeans cared, one way or another.

2 posted on 02/29/2012 8:30:01 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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Anybody notice that all the fragmenting of the middle east - ALL of it - is happening under Obama’s watch. And it’s not over.


3 posted on 02/29/2012 8:41:42 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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Actually it’s more of a radical islamization of the middle east.

Exactly what obama wanted, the advancement of radical islam.


4 posted on 02/29/2012 8:48:34 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: cuban leaf

Fragmenting is not necessarily a bad thing.

Uniting of the middle east under a new caliphate, OTOH, would be a very bad thing.


5 posted on 02/29/2012 8:53:17 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: cuban leaf

Actually it fragmented under Woodrow Wilson’s watch. The end of WW I and the Ottoman Empire allowed England and France to come in and split it between them. Re watch Laurence of Arabia to get a feel for events on the Brit side.

Recent events are the result of those actions. Obama is a trivial force with no influence at all in the region.


6 posted on 02/29/2012 8:58:26 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: John O

—Actually it’s more of a radical islamization of the middle east.

Exactly what obama wanted, the advancement of radical islam.—

Yeah. “Fragmenting” was a VERY poor choice of words. We don’t have an “edit post” feature, so there you go...

As you pointed out, the exact opposite is happening. It is unifying under Islam. Think Iran back in the Carter years, but now it’s happening to the whole region.

And all under Obama’s watch. All of it.


7 posted on 02/29/2012 9:29:50 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: combat_boots

So I wrote about this on FR about 5 years or so ago and was ripped how arrogant I was for proposing redrawing the lines. The author left out what to do with the Christians, we should turn part of Lebanon into a Christian state. It won’t survive long, but we need to give them a chance in their own state.


8 posted on 02/29/2012 9:30:57 AM PST by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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It’s not arrogance when you’re right.

I’ve been warning of the MB and the Caliphate for a very long time. People remember my tirades at family gatherings, most recently telling me, “Feel the love.”

The Shi’ite 12ers? I now speak of them in private circles only.


9 posted on 02/29/2012 9:38:07 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

Man if people just knew a little about how the enemy operates (and no doubt about it, Islam is our enemy) we would have taken out Mecca and Medina long ago. I read up on it as much as possible, but I am no expert. Keep your boots on and the faith brother.


10 posted on 02/29/2012 10:07:52 AM PST by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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