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Plan B for stopping Obama [George Will opinion]
Washington Post ^ | 3/2/2012 | George F. Will

Posted on 03/02/2012 9:29:08 PM PST by advance_copy

Sept. 11, 1964

On that evening 48 years ago — it was still summer, early in the presidential campaign — Buckley, whose National Review magazine had given vital assistance to Barry Goldwater’s [blah blah blah]

Still, the presidency is not everything, and there will be another election in the next year divisible by four.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; georgewill
Waste of time to read it. But this is evidence that the establishment GOP does not want to win the Presidential election this year.
1 posted on 03/02/2012 9:29:17 PM PST by advance_copy
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To: advance_copy
And what does Mr. Will propose for stopping Obama from sidestepping Congress which he already does? Obama needs to go Mr. Will.
2 posted on 03/02/2012 9:32:56 PM PST by funfan (and his crew)
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To: advance_copy

George Will is a pompous shmuck and has been forever. “The next year divisable by four”. Blech. He’s sooo clever that he figured out the presidency isn’t important really, we should “concentrate” on 2/3 of the government yada yada yada.

Meanwhile people who dare to think they are just as smart as George Will think he is a fool and gee, duh, there are polls right now showing Barack Obama being defeated by Romney or Santorum.


3 posted on 03/02/2012 9:37:06 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: advance_copy

The GOP doesn’t want to stop Obama. Winning Congress will not change anything.


4 posted on 03/02/2012 9:40:21 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: funfan

As Rush says, the Congressional pubbies are only interested in the chairmanships. For those with a taste for history, this is how Bismarck handled the Reichstag: he just by-passed it.


5 posted on 03/02/2012 9:43:00 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Williams

When you take baths in vinegar, you get pickled.


6 posted on 03/02/2012 9:44:35 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: advance_copy

George Will can go to Hell, for the past 10 years or so.


7 posted on 03/02/2012 9:47:45 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Williams
If the Obammunist is reelected, he won't need the legislature. Heck, he doesn't have them now.

He will double down on executive regulations whose repeals will never get passed his veto.

George Will needs to stick to baseball in his old age. Remember Goldwater's golden years.

yitbos

8 posted on 03/02/2012 9:54:32 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: advance_copy

George Will’s idea is to stop Obama with a filibusterer in the Senate, and to cede the House and Senate to the Democrats.


9 posted on 03/02/2012 10:00:08 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: GeronL

I don’t think they even want to hold on to the House or win the Senate. They would love nothing than to see the Tea Party flushed out of the House. And if some of their own elite in Congress have to go to do this, so be it. They would rather complain about things than do anything about it.


10 posted on 03/02/2012 10:01:48 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: funfan

Apparently Mr. Will hasn’t heard of the czars or B.O.’s E.O.s.


11 posted on 03/02/2012 10:02:45 PM PST by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: advance_copy

The baseball expert is right - electing the establishmentarians Mittie or Saintorumn will achieve nothing!


12 posted on 03/02/2012 10:06:18 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

GO NEWT!


13 posted on 03/02/2012 10:06:59 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: advance_copy

George Will is every Liberal’s favorite conservative. He’ll concede any point (”for the sake of the argument”) so that he can make his point, which is so hopelessly diluted by polite and scholarly language (with a few arcane anecdotes thrown in) that by the time he gets to it, you wonder why he bothered. Little wonder he’s lasted so long on that ABC Sunday show.


14 posted on 03/02/2012 10:34:28 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: advance_copy

All I needed to know was the author. I don’t put any stock in his drivel and didn’t read it.

He is irrelevant.


15 posted on 03/02/2012 11:16:35 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

LOL. I didn’t read either.

Spotted the author and time is too precious!

GO NEWT!


16 posted on 03/02/2012 11:24:54 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: advance_copy
Horseshit!

My dead grandmother or either of my twin infants could beat Obama bloody in this election year. I am certain my five year old could take him in a debate, He is certainly more intelligent!

By the time September rolls around gas will be somewhere north of $5.00, another five to ten million Americans will be on Food Stamps remembering when they could take their kids to Applebee’s once a month and Six Flags every year, Iran will either have gone nuclear or their Oil production completely taken off line by Israel (who will then be in a hot war with Iran's Sock Puppet Hezbollah) GOOD BYE 3.5 million BPD, Syria will be WORSE THAN NOW with potentially fifty thousand casualties and we still haven't scene the results of continued high gas prices on the larger economy, IE: massive Unemployment spike! Companies have cut out all the fat they have and the next move is muscle and bone to maintain profits.

We have a real chance to have a bullet proof House and damn near 60 Senators, many of them more Conservative than at any point in history.

The real problem will be making them fight off the media while rolling back Obama and his damage.

17 posted on 03/02/2012 11:36:38 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: onyx

“The question answers itself”.


18 posted on 03/03/2012 12:07:04 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: advance_copy

He’s implying that, both Romney and Santorum may be unelectable, but if one of them might damage Conservatives’ long-term prospects, then we should nominate the other even though he might be unelectable. Gee, I wonder which of those two George Will thinks will damage the Conservative cause?

Romney can’t win, but Santorum will make us look too EXTREME, so nominate Romney. That is the weasely argument he wants to make, but is too cowardly to actually come out and say.


19 posted on 03/03/2012 12:10:34 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: GeronL

Exactly, considering how chicken-sh*tted the GOP is in stopping his agenda. Can we really, honestly see Mitch McConnell standing up a credible resistance to 0bama`s nomination of a leftist radical to backfill the next conservative justice who steps down or dies?

0bama could name Jeremiah Wright to replace Clarence Thomas and the chances of a successful filibuster to stop it would be no more than 50-50.

Today`s GOP simply can`t hold up under pressure. When faced with a challenge, their first tactic is to whimper and cower in the first corner they can find. 0bama will slice through McConnell and Boehner like a hot knife through room-temp butter.

Much as I despise Reid and Pelosi, I give grudging admiration for their ability and willingness to fight. They never accept defeat, they never back down, they always find ways to win, and they always go for the kill.


20 posted on 03/03/2012 1:19:59 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: advance_copy

Will seems to have forgotten that it is the President who puts Supreme Court nominees before the Senate. Eventually Obama would get a fifth liberal on the Court and the Dems would then control both the executive and judicial branches.Furthermore, Obama with his veto pen will kill off any chance Will’s Republican Congress has to dismantle Obamacare. Come 2014 we will be in a world of hurt when it takes effect and runs already skyrocketing deficits through the roof.


21 posted on 03/03/2012 1:30:41 AM PST by chuckee
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To: advance_copy
The Republic is being stolen right out from under the noses of RINOS like George Will and they want to tell us just to keep a stiff upper lip.
22 posted on 03/03/2012 2:09:08 AM PST by Bullish (12-22-2012)
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To: RobbyS
For those with a taste for history, this is how Bismarck handled the Reichstag: he just by-passed it.

His successor as chancellor was more expeditious: he burned it.

23 posted on 03/03/2012 2:33:06 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Jim from C-Town
The real problem will be making them fight off the media while rolling back Obama and his damage.

The thing to do now is to attack the dinosaur media and the left-wing Mediots. The way to do it is financially, not just because they are in straits now (which is true) but because so many of them rely on 1970-era special exemptions and favorable legislation protecting them against antitrust enforcement for monopolistic practices. Hit them, and hit them hard. Nail PBS to a cross, and make sure it dies there.

They're trying to escape to the blogosphere, to metastasize out into the Internet and capture that the way they did print and electronic mass-media. Go after the 501(c)3's and other foundations that support them -- go after the money, the board memberships, the already mapped-out web of relationships, and attack them using the IRS. Tear them apart; DEFUND THE LEFT.

No more Mr. Nice Guy -- besides, what are they going to do to us, that they haven't been doing since 1994 and the hate-filled "Man of the Year" cover of Newt by TIME magazine?

Either we handle these people now, or they will put their boots on our throats and end the Republic.

24 posted on 03/03/2012 2:48:27 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: advance_copy
So how do they think they are going to get enough people out to vote? If you are not thrilled about the presidcntial race why on earth would you turn out to vote for senate or house? These people are incredibly stupid.

There is no one left running who can win.

25 posted on 03/03/2012 3:53:36 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: advance_copy

I heard Eric Erickson discussing this article on the Boortz show Friday and was surprised at the tone he took as I thought Erickson was more of a red meat kind of guy. Personally, when I heard/saw it was a Will piece, I thought the discussion would be about his annual baseball spring training column, the only one he writes most years that I read with any level of agreement or interest. Otherwise, Will is just another bow-tied fop of the establishment.


26 posted on 03/03/2012 4:15:23 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: funfan

then Will Must Like Obamacare


27 posted on 03/03/2012 4:23:56 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: advance_copy
But conservatives this year should have as their primary goal making sure Republicans wield all the gavels in Congress in 2013.

Will, of course, with the GOP "elite," counts Newt out. Newt is the only candidate with a record of ending 40 years of the Dem-controlled House. Mitt has no congressional record, but in MA he managed to reduce the already pathetically small number of legislative seats held by the GOP. Santorum, AFAIK, has no relevant record.

What is he smoking? What dream world is he living in?

28 posted on 03/03/2012 4:27:45 AM PST by maryz
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To: advance_copy

Be wary of anyone who wears round glasses and looks like Joseph Goebbels.


29 posted on 03/03/2012 4:54:21 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: ScottinVA
Much as I despise Reid and Pelosi, I give grudging admiration for their ability and willingness to fight. They never accept defeat, they never back down, they always find ways to win, and they always go for the kill.

Same here, frankly, I hate their guts, my hatred for them is much hotter than the center of the Sun and/or H-Bomb when it detonates. Still, I have a George Patton like respect for them much like he had for Rommell. Still, what the GOP lacks is the Patton idea of getting out there to win.
30 posted on 03/03/2012 8:50:04 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Send Obama back to the ghetto, November 6th.)
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To: McGavin999

“There is no one left running who can win.”

Perhaps the only way to permanently remove Mitt Romney from the political scene is for him to run... and then lose.

If Rick Santorum somehow wrests the 2012 nomination from Romney’s grasp, and then goes on to lose the election, Romney [like the Terminator] will be back in 2012, running again and re-creating the schism in the party that we are seeing now.

He has the potential (backed by wealth) to become a latter-day Harold Stassen amongst Republican contenders. Like the energizer bunny, he will just keep running... and running... and....

Another thought, completely off-topic. Regardless of whether Obama wins or loses, who will be the upcoming ‘rat contenders for the nomination in 2016? Hillary won’t be in the game. Who else is there?


31 posted on 03/03/2012 9:33:24 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: advance_copy

Georgie Will’s next original thought will be his first. The life of a Porch Conservative.

Pray for America


32 posted on 03/03/2012 9:52:10 AM PST by bray (More Batting Practice for the Bambino)
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To: advance_copy

George Wilts.

Again.


33 posted on 03/03/2012 9:53:57 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Amen!


34 posted on 03/03/2012 10:19:06 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: ScottinVA

“Much as I despise Reid and Pelosi, I give grudging admiration for their ability and willingness to fight. They never accept defeat, they never back down, they always find ways to win, and they always go for the kill.”
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Careful now, careful lest you should uncover the truth! Is it just possible that the Republican party is mainly composed of clowns who are paid to take a dive? It surely is beginning to seem that way to me.


35 posted on 03/03/2012 1:14:57 PM PST by RipSawyer
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To: McGavin999

I know Will is brilliant, but how do we get people who want to vote for Obama to then vote for a republican further down the ballot?


36 posted on 03/03/2012 2:50:13 PM PST by tell me
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To: RipSawyer

I`m coming to that conclusion too. If the team I`ve been supporting has no desire to win, what the hell is the point of expending any effort on my part when the outcome is predetermined to be a blowout loss?


37 posted on 03/03/2012 4:22:51 PM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: Road Glide
Perhaps the only way to permanently remove Mitt Romney from the political scene is for him to run... and then lose

I've thought of that too. If we get a mediocre consdrvative as the nominee and he loses the "elite" will claim it is our fault. If it's Romney, and believe me Romney WILL lose, he's gone for good and perhaps we can actually get a conservative if there is anything left of the country.

I don't have a dog in the hunt anymore but I'll work for any ABR who gets the nomination. If it's Romney I not only won't work, I won't vote.

38 posted on 03/04/2012 5:26:38 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: lentulusgracchus
Either we handle these people now, or they will put their boots on our throats and end the Republic.

Too late, that already happened in the spring of 1865. The leftist are still waiting for the republic's corpse to stop wiggling. They are getting impatient.

39 posted on 03/04/2012 5:31:44 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: McGavin999

“I don’t have a dog in the hunt anymore but I’ll work for any ABR who gets the nomination. If it’s Romney I not only won’t work, I won’t vote.”

Even if Romney becomes the nominee, don’t you think it’s worth voting for the “down ticket” for reasons of advancing Republicans at the local/state/Congressional levels?

Obama may win against either Romney or Santorum in 2012. But that doesn’t mean his next term can’t be “thwarted” by a Republican House and Senate.

That may become our only feasible scenario for 2013-17....


40 posted on 03/04/2012 9:15:57 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide
Perhaps the only way to permanently remove Mitt Romney from the political scene is for him to run... and then lose.

Yes, but if it takes four years per RINO, its going to be 2056 before they are all cleared out. :)

41 posted on 03/05/2012 8:43:48 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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