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A Statement from Rush (Rush offers apology to Slut!)
Rushlimbaugh.com ^ | Mar 3, 2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 03/03/2012 2:15:11 PM PST by TSgt

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To: FreeReign; sickoflibs
FreeReeign post # 452: It's the left that minimizes Rush's political commentary by calling him an "entertainer". Now you do it.

While it's true that some on the left have called him an "entertainer" in the past, it's difficult to find any of them taking that position today. Google "limbaugh entertainer" and you get 100 hits of Santorum saying he is an entertainer taking an absurd point of view. Nobody on the left.

Sickoflibs and I don't agree about Limbaugh's joke that Fluke should sell sex tapes to pay for birth control. He thinks it was funny, I think it was creepy, not funny. I also believe that it makes the Left's job of talking women into voting for Obama easier. I hope I am wrong about that.

701 posted on 03/04/2012 8:52:09 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: sickoflibs
To claim that Rush is not “just an entertainer” is not logically the same thing as claiming that Rush is “our leader”.

Now you are contradicting on your own argument. Are you claiming you don't consider him a leader ? When your main ridiculous argument is that ‘the left’ is calling Rush an entertainer instead?

You are totally lost in your confusion.

Two very simple points:

Those two ideas are not mutually exclusive.

If that is difficult for you, so be it.

702 posted on 03/04/2012 9:01:06 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
RE :” Rush isn't my leader (I tend not to have any).
Rush is a political conservative commentator who also tries to be entertaining.

If true then you started an argument about nothing with no point.

Between football and golf and his weddings and his parties and a few weaved in commercials he manages to slip in a lecture or two about how Republicans should NEVER CAVE UNDER PRESSURE, even if it means them losing the next election. That is pure entertainment in my book.

703 posted on 03/04/2012 9:07:10 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; sickoflibs
While it's true that some on the left have called him an "entertainer" in the past, it's difficult to find any of them taking that position today.

True. Which is why I made the following comment (as posted to sickolibs in an earlier post):

Rush is neither "my leader" nor is he "just an entertainer". The left will inconsistently apply either line of propaganda when it suits their need.

704 posted on 03/04/2012 9:13:46 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: sickoflibs
RE :” Rush isn't my leader (I tend not to have any). Rush is a political conservative commentator who also tries to be entertaining.”

If true then you started an argument about nothing with no point.

So then you agree that Rush is primarily a conservative commentator who also tries to entertain...and he is NOT simply "just an entertainer"???

705 posted on 03/04/2012 9:16:10 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :”They will call Rush a leader when it suits their propaganda and they will call Rush just an entertainer when it suits their propaganda. “
Rush is neither “my leader” nor is he “just an entertainer”. The left will inconsistently apply either line of propaganda when it suits their need

Well right now it suits their needs to make Rush out to be much more than an entertainer, which is what he is.
The Sharptons, Maddows, Matthews all spent the week calling Rush the Republican spiritual leader to set the stage for demanding that every elected Republican explain their position on Rush's statements.
And on the Sunday shows Republicans were all asked to explain their positions on Rush. You can bet that by Monday Obama spokesman will claim that Republicans spent another week defending their leader Rush regarding birth control instead of talking about jobs.
I will be damned if I am going to help them.

706 posted on 03/04/2012 9:23:43 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: FreeReign
RE :”So then you agree that Rush is primarily a conservative commentator who also tries to entertain...and he is NOT simply “just an entertainer”??

Between football and golf and his weddings and his parties and a few weaved in commercials he manages to slip in a lecture or two about how Republicans should NEVER CAVE UNDER PRESSURE, even if it means them losing the next election. That is pure entertainment in my book.

Helping the left demand that Republicans waste all their time defending, or opposing everything that Rush says while he is entertaining is not in my book.

707 posted on 03/04/2012 9:29:01 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs; FreeReign
You can bet that by Monday Obama spokesman will claim that Republicans spent another week defending their leader Rush regarding birth control instead of talking about jobs.

They will undoubtedly use the Fluke affair in some way as long as they think it's working. I think they will try to make the case that Rush is the very image of the GOP's "disrepect toward women" or some such lie. I expect Obama himself to make more oblique statements, but he has been known to get carried away with his ideology.

708 posted on 03/04/2012 9:39:43 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: TSgt

When I first heard of the apology I was disappointed. Then I read his statement and was relieved. The Left was using not the substance, but the semantics to rope-in sympathy for their position. He did nothing more than retract a couple of poorly chosen and over-the-top words. He used the apology/statement as a platform to expose the argument to many who don’t listen to his show; they might discover that they agree with him. Unfortunately, tv media outlets (whether out of bias or the need for brevity) may in most cases only report that he apologized and not read the whole statement.


709 posted on 03/04/2012 11:15:31 AM PST by Floratina
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To: TSgt

Rush said something like, “she is asking to be paid to have sex...then, what does that make her?” and he should have left it there, to our imagination - done. Absurdity demonstated. If anything, he needed to apologize to himself for going that extra bit further and giving the opposition the ammo with which to blow this whole thing up.


710 posted on 03/04/2012 11:25:44 AM PST by Floratina
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; sickoflibs
I certainly don't want to include myself among those who chant the mantra "Anything that demeans women is not art!"

thats the problem, i just can see rush limbaughs words as demeaning to *women*...

if I, as an alcoholic, go before a CONgressional panel, mics and cameras and bright lights, and attempt to persuade them to force local bars, distilleries, and brewing companies, including every citizen who believe drinking to be against their 1A freedom of religion and freedom from government... to *invest* into my party fund, at the point of a government rifle, then Ive painted a target on my back...

tomorrow, some talkin head makes a reference to me that I, an admitted alcoholic, am a 'drunk'...should the population of self respecting alcoholics be enraged ??? or just those who desire a subsidy to continue their destructive behavior ???

chances are slim to none that rush was settin up for a monday show doubling down and change his terminolgy to *whore*...it wouldnt demean wimmin any more, and he would be king of the smackdown...but as i said, slim to none...

711 posted on 03/04/2012 11:34:53 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; FreeReign
RE :”I think they will try to make the case that Rush is the very image of the GOP’s “disrepect toward women” or some such lie.

That was the message today.

But they like Wazzman Schultz today keep saying that Republicans are the ones starting this social issue war making believe that Obama-care has been in effect for 30 years now.

712 posted on 03/04/2012 1:15:56 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: Gilbo_3; sickoflibs
I don't know Fluke, but I strongly suspect it would be painful to try to talk to her about her undergraduate major, Feminist, Gender & Sexuality Studies. I absolutely disagree with those who claim that birth control and abortion are fundamental "rights." I don't want to pay for her contraceptives, directly or indirectly. Doing so would invite big gov to steal more of our freedom.

chances are slim to none that rush was settin up for a monday show doubling down and change his terminolgy to *whore*...it wouldnt demean wimmin any more, and he would be king of the smackdown...but as i said, slim to none...

But Rush went way beyond what she said by making the "joke" that she should sell sex tapes to pay for her birth control. I think that is clearly worse than just using the S-word. That is the kind of creepy "humor" we expect from Letterman and Maher. And it could help Obama to 4 more years. I hope not.

713 posted on 03/04/2012 1:31:41 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3
RE :”But Rush went way beyond what she said by making the “joke” that she should sell sex tapes to pay for her birth control. I think that is clearly worse than just using the S-word. That is the kind of creepy “humor” we expect from Letterman and Maher. And it could help Obama to 4 more years. I hope not.

Well as funny as I thought it was when those MSNBC libs played the tapes and reacted on camera, I have a simple rule regarding this. Rush SAID HE WAS wrong. So it makes no sense now to argue that he was right.

Ever see those judge civil court TV shows where the person is being sued for a crime they were already convicted of and they claim they were not really guilty and they make up an excuse like ‘My lawyer told me to plead guilty’ ??? Well the judge says if you pleaded guilty there I have to assume you were guilt here, It's very straight-forward.

714 posted on 03/04/2012 1:40:54 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“But worse than that, he went on to say that she should sell sex tapes to pay for birth control, and in so doing, dragged himself at least temporarily down to the level of Letterman and Maher.”

Wrong. Once again, lying about a virtuous woman is not on the same moral plane as making appropriate remarks about a depraved woman.

“If you approve of Limbaugh’s “sex tape” comments, and disapprove of Letterman and Maher, that is hypocrisy.”

Wrong.

“Hypocrisy is the state of pretending to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have. Hypocrisy involves the deception of others and is thus a kind of lie.

Hypocrisy is not simply failing to practice those virtues that one preaches. Samuel Johnson made this point when he wrote about the misuse of the charge of “hypocrisy” in Rambler No. 14:

‘Nothing is more unjust, however common, than to charge with hypocrisy him that expresses zeal for those virtues which he neglects to practice; since he may be sincerely convinced of the advantages of conquering his passions, without having yet obtained the victory, as a man may be confident of the advantages of a voyage, or a journey, without having courage or industry to undertake it, and may honestly recommend to others, those attempts which he neglects himself.’

Thus, an alcoholic’s advocating temperance, for example, would not be considered an act of hypocrisy as long as the alcoholic made no pretense of constant sobriety.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

The vast majority of people who make false accusations of hypocrisy based on an erroneous definition of the concept are leftists.

“At a minimum, ignoring a very important part of my post, you tried to smear me.”

There is no very important part of your post which I ignored. I tried first to explain why it’s not hypocrisy to agree that a slut is a slut while holding that a virtuous woman is a virtuous woman, then I expressed my judgment that, based on what you say and how you say it, you are not a conservative, but an agent provocateur.

It now occurs to me, though, that it could be that you simply haven’t gotten as far as this concept in your struggle to free yourself from the toxic nostrums of the popular culture or the college campus.

It is long past time for decent people to wake up and realize that when dealing with scumbags, civility is nothing but a self-imposed handicap. If it’s true, say it. If it’s a lie, call it a lie. No hypocrisy is involved.


715 posted on 03/04/2012 1:42:16 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
I admit I used "hypocrisy" in an informal way. However, the standard definition makes it very difficult to use correctly, since in many cases one would have to read minds to determine whether the inconsistency was intentionally deceitful. In your case, you admit that you believe that the "sex tapes" joke somehow fits the woman in question, so I will have to find other terms. I assume you do not have any evidence that she would be likely to make such tapes, so we are arguing about the word "appropriate" in this context. And that is a matter of opinion.

Once again, lying about a virtuous woman is not on the same moral plane as making appropriate remarks about a depraved woman.

Right. Fluke should make sex tapes. Your version of "appropriate?" I guess you are right. It's not hypocrisy, it's swinishness. Palin would not approve of such vulgar public jokes about misguided left wing students. She knows what it feel like to be the object of cruel remarks that pretend to be "jokes," so it would be hypocritical for her to claim they were "appropriate."

But although you may be a very fine person in other respects, your approval of those particular jokes is selectively boorish (not hypocritical, because you believe they are "appropriate"). Somehow you have the ability to recognize that some left-wing comments about Palin are inappropriate, but do not possess that ability when applied to political enemies.

Fluke is my enemy too. I doubt if I could stand to be around her. But I don't know her really. For all I know, she doesn't need birth control because she doesn't like men.

The vast majority of people who make false accusations of hypocrisy based on an erroneous definition of the concept are leftists.

Any evidence to back up that claim? And even if that were true, your "logic" is like saying that since you have a pet, it must be a dog. That would be a guess, not "judgment."

I tried first to explain why it’s not hypocrisy to agree that a slut is a slut while holding that a virtuous woman is a virtuous woman, then I expressed my judgment that, based on what you say and how you say it, you are not a conservative, but an agent provocateur.

And based on what you say with your rickity "arguments," you sound like you use such charges against conservatives who disagree with you.

It is long past time for decent people to wake up and realize that when dealing with scumbags, civility is nothing but a self-imposed handicap.

Extreme, timid civility can be a handicap, but beware lest we become what we say we hate.

If it’s true, say it. If it’s a lie, call it a lie. No hypocrisy is involved.

OK, you lied about me. Maybe you can't help it.

716 posted on 03/04/2012 4:29:01 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: Yogafist
My subscription to Carbonite was due and I received an email from them asking me to renew. I had the privilege of telling them that I would not be renewing and why by return email. Hope you get yours canceled.
717 posted on 03/04/2012 8:15:15 PM PST by parthian shot
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To: dsc; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :”It is long past time for decent people to wake up and realize that when dealing with scumbags, civility is nothing but a self-imposed handicap. If it’s true, say it. If it’s a lie, call it a lie. No hypocrisy is involved.

You seem to have missed the title of this thread, Rush says he was wrong to say those things. That's black and white.

Don't pick fights where you can't win. And that is exactly what Rush did. If it were a member of congress getting beat up over a stand (like shutting down the government) Rush would tell him to not give in even if it meant him losing his job. But when Rush lost a few sponsors the listener fantasy world left him and reality set in and he caved.

If he says he was wrong then who are we to claim he was right?

718 posted on 03/04/2012 9:09:25 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs

“If he says he was wrong then who are we to claim he was right?”

Oh, how about “people who strongly suspect that his apology was extorted under duress?”

Or, how about “people whose moral compasses are as well developed as his?”

“People who are not getting their arms twisted by business interests?”

“Free Americans who have the privilege of holding and expressing their own opinions?”


719 posted on 03/04/2012 9:38:52 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :”Oh, how about “people who strongly suspect that his apology was extorted under duress?”
Or, how about “people whose moral compasses are as well developed as his?

Well developed ??? His apology indicates that his ‘moral compass’ has went off in the wrong direction. Further defending him is like claiming the guy who pleaded guilty really didnt mean it.

Speaking of ‘moral compass’ and ‘extorted under duress’ Rush is the same guy who lectures his audience on how Republicans members of congress should hold on during a shutdown standoff EVEN IF IT MEANS LOSING THEIR NEXT election and seat. He sounds pretty brave behind that mike saying what others should give up in a battle. But he loses a few of HIS sponsors to his program and he's almost imediately making a public apology. He does NOT practice what he preaches.

Rush lives in a glass house and shouldn't throw those types of stones and he admitted it when he apologized.

720 posted on 03/05/2012 4:59:58 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs
Rush lives in a glass house and shouldn't throw those types of stones and he admitted it when he apologized.

Agree.

One would think that, with the passage of time, Rush will recover financially and career-wise. Although he has been the target of the Left for many years, he did recover from the McNabb affair.

On the subject of double standards I brought up in this thread, I should have mentioned that the Left deserves scorn for ignoring or encouraging similar remarks from Letterman, Maher, Ed Schultz, etc. and suddenly becoming indignant at Rush's remarks. But again, when posters on FR say Rush is wrong to apologize, but (rightly) state that left wing swine like Maher are despicable for what they say about Palin, we should remember Deuteronomy 25:

Do not have two differing measures in your house—one large, one small. Do not have two differing weights in your bag—one heavy, one light. You must have accurate and honest weights and measures, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.

721 posted on 03/05/2012 6:56:08 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :”On the subject of double standards I brought up in this thread, I should have mentioned that the Left deserves scorn for ignoring or encouraging similar remarks from Letterman, Maher, Ed Schultz, etc. and suddenly becoming indignant at Rush's remarks. But again, when posters on FR say Rush is wrong to apologize, but (rightly) state that left wing swine like Maher are despicable for what they say about Palin, we should remember Deuteronomy 25:

Actually when looking for comparisons to this, only Maher is applicable. Letterman apologized on air. Maher’s regular act is person attacks on Republican public figures and he is never sorry about it, that is his whole show. But Maher was kicked off of ABC for such antics. And HBO is a paid subscription services with NO sponsors that supplies liberal programming.

In this battle between Rush and the Dems the Dems were able to make her out to be a private citizen who is civil minded enough to voice her concerns on women's health issues, and that Rush savagely attacked her with (assumed) personal accusations to 'silence' her. If that is the premise then he cant win.

As I been posting the Democrats have been waging full scale war, but in this rare case Rush (accidently) put himself in the middle of the kill zone and now he knows what it feels like.

722 posted on 03/05/2012 7:24:52 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs

Repubs in D C are almost universal cowards.


723 posted on 03/05/2012 8:18:05 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3

Rush has been doing his show for 3 hours a day, 5 days a week since 1988. He is bound to cross the line, at least once a year. He is only human. That said, who do you want making 50 million a year? Rush or Bill Maher? Forgetaboutit. Rush has sponsors waiting to get a chance, because he makes them a lot of money.


724 posted on 03/05/2012 8:37:04 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3
RE :”Rush has been doing his show for 3 hours a day, 5 days a week since 1988. He is bound to cross the line, at least once a year. He is only human. That said, who do you want making 50 million a year? Rush or Bill Maher? Forgetaboutit. Rush has sponsors waiting to get a chance, because he makes them a lot of money

I was surprised that he caved.
I thought that he had enough insulation ($$$ and ratings) to protect him from major hurt from this type of attack.
The libs on MSNBC were also talking about trying to pressuring the radio stations to cancel their contracts and they made maximum use of the internet social sites to get the word out.

725 posted on 03/05/2012 10:24:32 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
RE :”Repubs in D C are almost universal cowards.

Those who get elected usually did so because they wanted to get elected. So when they see the polls dive and they get yelled at back home and they get lots of angry phone calls from their district voters, they get scared.

Rush learned what that fear is like first hand.

726 posted on 03/05/2012 10:28:34 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3

He didn’t cave.....if you listened this morning, he used the apology to TRASH the left......and he did an outstanding job of it too.

1) He castrated the left, by his apology, thereby rendering
any attempt to have his show/sponsors cancelled meaningless.

2) He ridiculed them for their hypocrisy.


727 posted on 03/05/2012 10:33:43 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3
He almost never says stufflike this :

I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices

But then I never seen Dems effectively cost him sponsors before.

728 posted on 03/05/2012 10:42:38 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; Travis McGee; B4Ranch; All

I am talking about day in day out cowardice. Obama is running his OWN government, and pisses on the Constitution almost daily. Not a peep out of those cowards in D.C. They should have been riding him every day for over 2 years. Had they done so, Obama would either be out, or would have about a 30% approval rating. All they do is lay low, and hope they get re-elected, so they can continue to be treated like royalty.Don’t forget about their BIG FAT PENSIONS!


729 posted on 03/05/2012 10:43:04 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3
I saw paul Ryan on a weekend FNC Special on fixing problems in DC. Paul Ryan went on about how DC is not working about how the Senate hasn't passed a budget in a couple of years.

Paul didn't mention the fact that he supported the Obama/Pelosi compromise that took away the Houses power to cut spending until after the election. But if you didn't know that you would think that he was serious. Sure it's broken....they gave away their power to do anything.

730 posted on 03/05/2012 10:49:15 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Travis McGee; B4Ranch
RE :”I am talking about day in day out cowardice. Obama is running his OWN government, and pisses on the Constitution almost daily. Not a peep out of those cowards in D.C. They should have been riding him every day for over 2 years. Had they done so, Obama would either be out, or would have about a 30% approval rating. All they do is lay low, and hope they get re-elected, so they can continue to be treated like royalty.Don’t forget about their BIG FAT PENSIONS!

Our comments crossed each other. See : #730

731 posted on 03/05/2012 10:52:20 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs

I never bought into the Paul Ryan worship. The Repubs in the House & Senate are spineless, gutless wonders. There isn’t anything Boner & McConnell have done, or WILL do to stop this America-hating Marxist. They both have to go.


732 posted on 03/05/2012 10:56:15 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs

Yeah....I noticed that : )


733 posted on 03/05/2012 10:57:37 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :”I never bought into the Paul Ryan worship. The Repubs in the House & Senate are spineless, gutless wonders. There isn’t anything Boner & McConnell have done, or WILL do to stop this America-hating Marxist. They both have to go.

Don't forget Cantor, I find his especially annoying.

At the start they promised to not pass anything without a specific constitutional basis and cited, and to not to pass anything with a period of a few days public review, then they went behind close doors with Obama and used the same procedure Dems did to pass bills in the previous congress: whip it out and ram it throught after some knuckle crunching. You wont hear Ryan talk about that.

734 posted on 03/05/2012 11:12:06 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: Darnright

I make that statement ONLY because conservatives shouldn’t kiss ANY leftist’s azz.


735 posted on 03/05/2012 11:33:35 AM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: sickoflibs

” At the start they promised to not pass anything without a specific constitutional basis and cited, and to not to pass anything with a period of a few days public review, then they went behind close doors with Obama and used the same procedure Dems did to pass bills in the previous congress: whip it out and ram it throught after some knuckle crunching. You wont hear Ryan talk about that.”

Correct, and Cantor is no good either!


736 posted on 03/05/2012 11:57:57 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

To me the worse part is passing that compromise that took away their own power and now act like it never happened, like they never won 2010.

The same compromise put into effect automatic spending cuts ‘after’ the election, but it doesnt matter because there is no budget passed for next FY13 and the next budget will over-ride the cuts.


737 posted on 03/05/2012 12:08:55 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs

You nailed it on both counts. The Repubs in D.C. put on a (very short) showing of rightious indignation, then go in the back room, and sell us down the river!!


738 posted on 03/05/2012 12:22:11 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sauropod

Yep. Me and forests and trees get confused.

I think Rush actually planned that last week to dramatize how hypocritical the left is. Obama calls Rush “reprehensible” for the Fluke incident; but is mute and muzzled about Maher’s comments about Sarah Palin. Rush is NOT running for office, nor does he have any power in the Republican Party. He’s just a private citizen (theoretically), and Obama and crew choose to attack him.

Rush’s comments today were absolutely genius; and his pronunciation of Sandra Fluke’s last name throughout was just inspired. Obama’s like Bill Clinton, who thought he wanted a piece of Rush; but got his fingers scorched every time he tangled with El Rushbo.


739 posted on 03/05/2012 4:33:21 PM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“I admit I used “hypocrisy” in an informal way.”

No, you used it incorrectly.

“However, the standard definition makes it very difficult to use correctly, since in many cases one would have to read minds to determine whether the inconsistency was intentionally deceitful.”

There are ways to determine that without having to read minds. In any case, there is no excuse for using the term incorrectly.

“Fluke should make sex tapes.”

You just acknowledged that it was a joke.

“It’s not hypocrisy, it’s swinishness.”

There you cross a line. You have lost your standing to lecture on civility.

“Palin would not approve of such vulgar public jokes about misguided left wing students.”

You a good friend of hers, are you?

“She knows what it feel like to be the object of cruel remarks that pretend to be “jokes,” so it would be hypocritical for her to claim they were “appropriate.”

The problem with you and the word “hypocritical” is that you simply don’t understand the concept. I know that you think you do, but you don’t. Once again, slut-joke about virtuous woman, malicious lie. Slut-joke about slut, appropriate.

“your approval of those particular jokes is selectively boorish”

Naughty, naughty. You have no standing to comment on others’ manners.

“Somehow you have the ability to recognize that some left-wing comments about Palin are inappropriate, but do not possess that ability when applied to political enemies.”

It should be pointed out at this juncture that, while I understand the arguments you are making, you do not understand the arguments I am making. I know that you think you do, but you don’t.

Some years back a story circulated that made Hanoi Jane Fonda look very bad. When it emerged that the story was false, all of us here immediately undertook never to repeat it again—because it was not true.

The left-wing comments about Palin are inappropriate because they are false, not because they are leveled at someone I like. Rush’s jokes about Fluke are appropriate because they are grounded in truth, not because they are leveled at someone I dislike.

“Any evidence to back up that claim (that the vast majority of people who make false accusations of hypocrisy based on an erroneous definition of the concept of hypocrisy are leftists.)?”

Decades of observation and experience.

“And even if that were true, your “logic” is like saying that since you have a pet, it must be a dog. That would be a guess, not “judgment.”

Buncombe. It is not an exercise in deduction using logic; it is an observation.

“And based on what you say with your rickity “arguments,” you sound like you use such charges against conservatives who disagree with you.”

No, I don’t sound like that at all. I sound like someone who, when he encounters someone who argues like a leftist in favor of leftist positions, hypothesizes that he is dealing with a leftist.

“OK, you lied about me. Maybe you can’t help it.”

You’ve said that a couple of times, but you haven’t identified the supposed falsehood.

That said, it looks like you don’t understand the concept of lying either—another trait very commonly found on the left.

A lie consists in uttering or otherwise communicating something known to be false, with the intention of deceiving the recipient. Being mistaken—not that I think I am—is not lying.

And, with that, I’m done with this.


740 posted on 03/05/2012 4:51:01 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: sickoflibs

“Well developed ??? His apology indicates that his ‘moral compass’ has went off in the wrong direction.”

A moral compass does not guarantee moral perfection.

That said, you insist on placing the most tendentious interpretation on his actions, with no better support than I have for my interpretation.

“Further defending him is like claiming the guy who pleaded guilty really didnt mean it.”

That does happen, you know.

“Rush is the same guy who lectures his audience on how Republicans members of congress should hold on during a shutdown standoff EVEN IF IT MEANS LOSING THEIR NEXT election and seat.”

I don’t believe that. I didn’t hear it, and it is contrary to the things I have heard.

“He does NOT practice what he preaches.”

Yeah, yeah, you don’t like Limbaugh. I get it.

“Rush lives in a glass house and shouldn’t throw those types of stones and he admitted it when he apologized.”

Nonsense.


741 posted on 03/05/2012 5:22:47 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
You have lost your standing to lecture on civility.

Look who's talking. You do not have the character to discern that calling someone vulgar names and saying she should make sex tapes is inappropriate.

You a good friend of hers, are you?

No, but she did not, and will not, claim that Rush's comments were "appropriate," "based in fact," etc. If she did, she would be on your level.

Some years back a story circulated that made Hanoi Jane Fonda look very bad. When it emerged that the story was false, all of us here immediately undertook never to repeat it again—because it was not true.

Maybe there are, or were at one time, some conditions under which you would not condone unjust attacks on such people. But in 2012 you use the term "grounded in truth" to try to justify vile comments.

You just acknowledged that it was a joke.

I assume that's the way Rush was thinking, but he realized later it was not "appropriate." If you think you can use that kind of language in real life, and excuse yourself by saying "joke," (not to mention accusing innocent people) you will have real problems.

Once again, slut-joke about virtuous woman, malicious lie. Slut-joke about slut, appropriate.

Says the person who just told me I have no standing to lecture on civility.

Rush’s jokes about Fluke are appropriate because they are grounded in truth, not because they are leveled at someone I dislike.

The latter appears to be the case, although you may have some mental condition I do not understand. If you actually knew enough about Fluke, there might be some basis in fact, but I even then I would not agree it was "appropriate" to make vulgar comments on the radio.

No, I don’t sound like that at all. I sound like someone who, when he encounters someone who argues like a leftist in favor of leftist positions, hypothesizes that he is dealing with a leftist.

Pure lunacy. And no, you did not just make a "hypothesis." You made that accusation. Don't you have better things to do than make baseless accusations?

742 posted on 03/05/2012 7:00:39 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“Don’t you have better things to do than make baseless accusations?”

I certainly have better things to do than argue with a woman like you, who lacks either the intelligence or the honesty to acknowledge her errors.


743 posted on 03/07/2012 8:33:05 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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