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US mothballs airborne laser missile defense weapon
CBS News ^ | 3/1/2012 | CBS News

Posted on 03/04/2012 11:28:49 PM PST by U-238

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To: Jonty30

It wasn’t—it was just a big science project. This was actually a good decision that should have been made long ago. Allows the Missile Defense Agency to focus its resources on more viable programs like Aegis BMD and Ground-based Missile Defense.


41 posted on 03/05/2012 5:02:54 AM PST by rbg81 (Only taxpayers should be allowed to vote)
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To: U-238

Perhaps the recent success of the Arrow Weapons System is one of the reasons for dropping the laser system (see: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2854575/posts)

A President who took his Constitutional obligation to defend the country seriously would continue to persue both systems. However, this President has taken money from Defense so that Sadra Fluke can have orgies. So the Defense department is going with the system that is closer to implementation


42 posted on 03/05/2012 5:11:05 AM PST by kidd
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To: Venturer

Not one single elected official in the republican party has complained. Bush was attacked and forced to show the dims ever receipt where every penny was paid for by the campaign. That is just one reason of many that I am no longer a “republican”. I may vote for Conservative republicans... but the party left me.

LLS


43 posted on 03/05/2012 5:11:43 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I am still a Republican, but one who does not believe in his party.

REpublican politicans seem to enjoy having the Democrats pee down their leg and tell them it’s raining.

They stand there with it running down their leg and grinning.


44 posted on 03/05/2012 5:22:23 AM PST by Venturer
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To: rbg81

That was my thought on it. Because it’s a plane, it’s ability to carry the chemical fuel would be limited and you couldn’t refuel readily. So, unless the system was super efficient, the application for using a plane was relatively limited.

But I do see the potential use of lasers in a ground-based defense system.


45 posted on 03/05/2012 5:28:12 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Venturer
The leadership of the republican party HATES us... Rush has told us of them admitting this to him... blasting social conservatives and stating that they do not want us at their events... they they and their wives are embarrassed by us... that is not a party to which I wish to claim membership. Like I said... 40 years of blind allegiance to the gop... but no more. They will EARN my vote or not get it.

LLS

46 posted on 03/05/2012 6:29:33 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: PapaBear3625
You could have the AWACS do double-duty and mount the laser ON the AWACS. Be able to track fighters and missiles AND shoot them down from long range.

You obviously did not look at the cutaway, the laser fills the 747, it wouldn't even fit on a 707 airframe, let alone leave any rooms for the stuff already on the AWACS. I've been in one, they are pretty crowded.

47 posted on 03/05/2012 11:08:15 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: James C. Bennett
Haven’t the Russians countered laser defenses by making their missiles with a highly reflective / heat-shielding outer coat?

They may have, although I don't think so. But in any event it would not help. Might make the damage worse. That's not your laser pointer. The beam carries lots of momentum, It kills not so much by absorption of the energy in the beam, but rather by momentum transfer, just like a really hot bullet.

48 posted on 03/05/2012 11:14:54 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Jonty30
I can see a ground based system being effective. That would be without question.

The higher density, and humidity, air at low altitude cause problems. Blooming and absorption, chief among them.

49 posted on 03/05/2012 11:22:22 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

It’s interesting to know lasers can do that at relatively short ranges - I know there are concepts such as Solar Sails which use the principle of momentum transfer of photons to achieve high velocities, but that takes huge distances and times to achieve the acceleration.

Any literature on momentum transfer through lasers would be greatly appreciated.


50 posted on 03/06/2012 3:21:57 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: El Gato
You obviously did not look at the cutaway, the laser fills the 747, it wouldn't even fit on a 707 airframe, let alone leave any rooms for the stuff already on the AWACS.

This is a prototype. Once they get it working better, they will figure out how to make it more compact.

And rather than make it fit in a 707 airframe, I was thinking more of having an AWACS radar attached to a more modern plane ( the cancelled E-10 was supposed to be based on a 767, but they might see about using a 747 as the base for a merged AWACS/laser system)

51 posted on 03/06/2012 4:29:40 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625
And rather than make it fit in a 707 airframe, I was thinking more of having an AWACS radar attached to a more modern plane ( the cancelled E-10 was supposed to be based on a 767, but they might see about using a 747 as the base for a merged AWACS/laser system)

I once worked on a proposal for a new AWACs, it would have had a 3 sided AESA (Active Electronically Steerable Array) radar, a lot more power and gain, and thus detection range,than the current AWACs (needed for stealthy targets), and based on a 747 airframe. It still would have taken up most of the aircraft.

Besides the mission profiles are unlikely to be compatible.

52 posted on 03/11/2012 11:25:42 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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