Skip to comments.The Mormon Senator Who Tried To Save Anne Frank
Posted on 03/08/2012 5:47:26 PM PST by SJackson
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Mormon authors Alan F. Keele and Douglas F. Tobler, in "The Führer's New Clothes," wrote,
"Hitler enjoyed at least as much popularity among German Mormons
as he did among the population in general. His apparent dynamism and self-confidence seemed
to show a way out of the chaos and weakness of the Weimar years...
Some Church members even saw Hitler as God's instrument,
preparing the world for the millennium." The Borks, above,
were among thousands of Mormon families who sent their sons
to fight for the Reich. The vital importance of "Aryan" ancestry
gave new significance to genealogical research, the writers
added in their Sunstone article. "And the Führer himself,
the non-smoking, non-drinking vegetarian who yielded
to no one in his desire for absolute law and order, seemed
to embody many of the most basic LDS virtues."
It was clear, the authors emphasized, that the Church's priority
was to maintain its strength and continue to make converts under the Third Reich.
It actually launched a public relations campaign to reassure
Germany of its fealty. Indeed, an article written for a special issue
of the Nazi Party organ Der Volkische Beobachter by the LDS Mission President
to West Germany, Alfred C. Rees, "abounds in such loaded terms as Volk
and Rasse (race), and a picture of Brigham Young bears the caption,
'Führer der historischen Mormonenpioniere.' Very disturbing
is the way President Rees blatantly parallels Mormonism with
Nazism Mormonism sounds like a fulfillment of Nazi teachings."
LDS Temple Ordinance records indicate that Adolf Hitler was
"baptized" and "endowed" on December 10, 1993, and "sealed"
to his parents on March 12, 1994. These events took place
in the London Temple, in England. Hitler was "sealed" to Eva Braun
on September 28, 1993, in the Jordan River Temple, Utah, and
on June 14, 1994, in the Los Angeles Temple. According to the
Church, these names -- and the names of other high-ranking
Nazi officials and of Mussolini -- have been removed from the registry.
The issue of Mormons posthumously baptizing Jewish people into the
Church continues to resurface regularly.
There appears to have been considerable support for Hitler
within the Mormon cult.... and even substantial collaboration."
Does anyone have an up to date count of how many times the mormons have made that "pledge"?
I would hope this is true, however have never heard of it before now after seventy years as an historian and Utah native and Mormon apostate.
Ping to those who may know.
Meant to ping you too.
The story does not match the headline.
Theoretically Anne Frank maybe have possibly been one of the children saved vs the mormon senator who tried to save Anne Frank.
The LDS is not an exception.
This is why no one understands Romney...all we see is the tip of the iceberg (in fact, the tip he has so studiously prepared for our viewing)!
Sorry not to ping you too. Anne Frank was Dutch and not German if I remember correctly.
Even if Romney pleaded with SLC lds to stop the dead dunking of Jews, and SLC lds said they wouldn’t any longer except they have promised at least six times in the last year this practice would end and it hasn’t.
The Franks were originally from Frankfurt am Main, Germany.
That’s true, though no reflection on his actions.
Thanks for the info. My wife and my family went through that building in Amsterdam back in 1982. Kids have never gotten over that experience. Tour guides were very good but I don’t remember that fact being stated. I am sure that is right. Today I learned that Statins causes loss of memory. That is my excuse and I’m sticking to it. No more damn Crestor for me.
I've not heard of this before, but frankly it doesn't sound like his efforts went anywhere, so that's not surprising. If the article is correct regarding legislation, that part of the record should be out there.
From my perspective there is a lot of bragging going on about the sanctimonious perfection of Mormonism and their intent.
Sometimes it is all made up. I would hope there is a record. If not, it is just more of the same.
I have never heard/read of it either and considering the number of LDS officials who were Nazi’s, Nazi Sympathizers (even in SLC) and SS soldiers, and having read extensively on Nazi/Mormon connections during the war, I don’t believe it.
It looks to me to be more of a puff piece in the wake of the Wiesenthal scandal. LDS often lies and rewrites history to save its sorry *** and THAT is documented.
Don’t know, but Rafael Medoff and the Wyman Institute are serious individuals/institutions with no reason to promote the LDS. I’d believe them. Given the nature of the times, an effort like this was doomed to failure, but I’m willing to give the Senator credit for his attempt. I’d speculate that the timing of the article might be related to the recent controversy over baptising dead Jews.
Note post 17, it’s not from LDS isn’t, Medoff and the Wyman Institure are legitimate sources. As I noted the timing is, well, the timing.
Sorry ass indeed. Live *** translation.
I went through the house in 1966—At the time, I don’t believe it was as big a tourist attraction as it is today. If I remember correctly, the tour was self-guided.
Goes without saying.
It looks very obvious to me that Mitt/LDS Inc have borrowed from David Axelrod.
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Thanks. As a Scout leader, I’m more familiar with the story of Helmuth Hubener.
Don’t you find it interesting that this story which has to this point been unknown comes out now?
The quota rules imposed in 1921 and 1924 were not directed against Jews and Italians only, but against all the European groups that the WASPs of that day considered undesirable--Poles, Czechs, Hungarians, Slovenes, Croats, Serbs, Bulgarians, Greeks, any Eastern Europeans. It was just that the Jews were hurt the most by the policy because they had the greatest incentive to get out of Europe once Hitler came to power and had a much higher likelihood of being killed if the Germans took control of the country where they lived.
One of my professors was on the last passenger ship that crossed the ocean to America in 1939 before the war started--he was then about 4 years old. His family was lucky to have some American relatives sponsor them.
A relative of mine is marrying a foreigner and they have been consulting with immigration about getting residency, and they said it is an involved process even for an American marrying a foreigner.
That doesn’t mean much. The LDS is known for ‘feeding’ sources and most groups, no matter how good, can’t or don’t independently verify them. IOW, if the original information came from the LDS, it should be suspect.
They have pulled this stunt before, many times.
I would want to see independent (non LDS touched) sources and documentation.
This posted story also illustrates a very underreported and "politically incorrect" aspect of the history of the years immediately prior to the United States entry into WWII: Franklin D. Roosevelt's and his administration's callousness to the plight of European Jewry under ever-increasing peril from Nazi expansionism. Call it antisemitism if you will.
What is mormon-speak for “astroturf”?
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Lying for the Lord. This stinks to high heaven.
Side note - one of the biggest lies the Mormon membership tell each other is that Mormons were rounded up and killed by the Nazi’s like the JW’s, gays, and Jews. It not only isn’t true, the opposite is true, SLC and the Nazi’s enjoyed good relations throughout the war.
The one exception was Helmuth Hubener who was excommunicated for fighting the Nazi’s and then reinstated posthumously.
I will never understand how so many Jews idolize this administration. Their blindness and sloth sickens me. But then I'm not one of them. I'm descended from survivors.
Nancy Pelosi’s father, then a Democrat Congressman, also bucked FDR and tried to encourage the US gov’t to save Jews.
As late as 1943, hundreds of Orthodox rabbis publicly marched on the White House on behalf of saving European Jews. They were rebuffed by FDR.
"MORMON boys! Do you know the country without freedom, the country of terror and tyranny? Yes, you know it well, but are afraid to talk about it. They have intimidated you to such an extent that you don't dare talk for fear of reprisals. Yes you are right; it is SALT LAKE CITY MORMON SLC! Through their unscrupulous terror tactics against young and old, men and women, they have succeeded in making you spineless puppets to do their bidding."
Why no; Ma'am. We do this willingly."
"Romney enjoys at least much more popularity among American Mormons than he does among the population in general. His apparent dynamism and self-confidence seems to show a way out of the chaos and weakness of the Bush/Obama years...
Welcome to MORMONism!
I’m on Pravastatin Sodium, 20 Mg.
I went thru YOUR building a couple years ago.
I've not forgotten THAT, either!
Here is my Sweetie (in brown) looking at your fantastic vista!
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1. Im Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you dont!
2. Im Superior; I have Gods true priesthood power -- you dont!
3. Im Superior; I can go in Gods secret Temple -- you cant!
4. Im Superior; Ive been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- youre just normal!
5. Im Superior; Ill have my family with me in heaven -- youll be with strangers!
6. Im Superior; Im becoming a God -- you arent!
7. Im Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours dont.
8. Im Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures).
9. Im Superior; I dont HAVE a creed - Ive got 13 Articles of Faith.
10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly.
11. Im Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. -- You cant.
12. Im Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics --
-- Youre a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't.
14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't
15. Im Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself.
16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't.
17. Im Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you dont.
18. Im Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you dont ;so you cant.
19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't.
20. Im Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably -- Youre on your own; when you get to wherever youre going!
21. Im Superior; Im going to hie to Kolob -- youre going to who knows where.
22. Im Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you dont.
23. Im Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple
-- You have nothing but a stupid cross.
24. Im Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty.
25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!)
26. I'm superior; I have the "higher law" -- everyone else "lives under the "lesser law' because I say so...(over and over).
Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.
All rights liable to be abused.
I would hope there is a record.
Curelom bones melt; they do NOT fossilize.
Party ownership of the print media
made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
and the film and radio carried the process further.
The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below.
The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further.
The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.
Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance.
When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify.
In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building.
As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames.
What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead.
In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs.
There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed.
And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence.
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Geez, can't this religion get any new members that aren't dead?
First; you go to Nuevo Laredo...
At 1:12 pm. Recorded for history. Your archive must look like that room with all the National Geographic mags. Any more shots from down here? I’ve got you back up on the new web site.
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