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Premeditated self defense?
1 posted on 03/10/2012 9:56:44 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Some folks just needs killin’.


2 posted on 03/10/2012 10:04:04 AM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: marktwain
Yeah, ain't that somethin'?

Justified and premeditated!

Yee haw!

3 posted on 03/10/2012 10:04:04 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: marktwain

Sounds like the defense did a good job picking the jury.


4 posted on 03/10/2012 10:07:17 AM PST by beelzepug ("Blind obedience to arbitrary rules is a sign of mental illness")
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Prosecutors say ... the crime was pre-meditated ...

If he was acquitted I'd say it wasn't a crime at all.

5 posted on 03/10/2012 10:08:37 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: marktwain

a father’s work is never done


7 posted on 03/10/2012 10:12:39 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: marktwain
Premeditated self defense?

All self defense is premeditated! The unpremeditated ones usually become victims.

8 posted on 03/10/2012 10:13:19 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: marktwain

Randall Grimm

9 posted on 03/10/2012 10:14:02 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: marktwain

When I read things like this, I ask myself as a woman, “why are women so stupid?” Why do women keep hooking up with men they know nothing about? And how about one of the latest cases where that nut of a women went running off to Aruba with some killer, a person of which she knew nothing about? Just to have some sex time? Again, her body has never been found and the killer is still free.

It goes on and on and on.


10 posted on 03/10/2012 10:15:02 AM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: marktwain

Actually, I just read an earlier account, and it sounds as if they were both pretty rough guys. But I guess the jury figured that the older bad actor who shot the younger bad actor was defending his daughter.

http://www.kptm.com/Global/story.asp?S=14168140


11 posted on 03/10/2012 10:18:58 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: marktwain

Maybe they both came armed - shootout at the OK corral?


12 posted on 03/10/2012 10:28:32 AM PST by expat1000
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To: marktwain

Some states, by case law, allow a person to arm themselves before meeting a potentially dangerous person.


15 posted on 03/10/2012 10:33:43 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: marktwain

The gloves were a dead give away. It may have not been the law but it sounds as justice was served. On to Rush and the Slut.


16 posted on 03/10/2012 10:40:02 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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There are some critical details missing from this story.

Sidney Andersen (father) was facing two counts, “first-degree murder and use of a weapon to commit a felony.”

The defense presented a terrifying picture into the Andersen’s lives after Sydney Andersen (daughter) broke up with Grimm. The young woman endured violence, threats and stalking that extended to her family.

Andersen had just learned that Grimm often beat his daughter, Sydney Andersen, until she had black eyes and, once, until she had passed out.

Grimm had been threatening the Andersens by text message all day, demanding money from Sydney.

Prosecutors say that’s why Sidney Andersen grabbed two guns and surgical gloves and headed to Hy-Vee, where police were supposed to arrest Grimm for making terroristic threats.

One of the guns was found near Grimm’s body, and it matched ammunition in Andersen’s home. Andersen said Grimm brought the gun and had been pointing it at him.

Police said they found a baseball bat on Grimm, still tucked into his sweatshirt.

Riley (Andersen’s lawyer) said Sidney Andersen went to the Hy-Vee to help police identify and arrest Grimm, but the police weren’t there.

Andersen said he brought a gun to protect himself and was wearing surgical gloves because Grimm claimed to have HIV. Grimm tested negative for HIV after the shooting.

Riley told the jury that Grimm probably stole the gun from Andersen’s house.

“He made a snap judgment and shot and killed the man who, within a few hours, had threatened everyone on this planet that (Sidney Andersen) loved,” Riley said of his client.

(Losing Prosecutor) MacTaggart reminded the jury that Grimm wasn’t on trial.

“I kind of felt like this was prosecutor Riley prosecuting State v. Randall Grimm,” he said.


17 posted on 03/10/2012 10:43:24 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: marktwain

If you are going to confront a violent perp, you would be ready to wax him if he gave you the excuse.


45 posted on 03/10/2012 11:28:21 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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