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What’s Wrong with the Conservative Movement?
Townhall.com ^ | March 11, 2012 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 03/11/2012 5:35:32 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Russ

We need to take over media outlets. Also, when we do have a foot in the door, forget this “fair and balanced” crap.
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The Post of the Day if not The Week.


21 posted on 03/11/2012 6:34:17 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: Kaslin

We need to “Be Breitbart” .... he went on the OFFENSIVE ... I always see Conservatives on the defensive. The Progs swarm like African bees .... they attack and they defend their own. I guess we’re too polite, too detached, too submissive. won’t take off our gloves and punch back .... lots of characteristics of Conservatives that are not good if we are to defeat the enemy. The Progs have heard the call to battle and are on the battlefield ... we’re still trying to get folks out of bed. (Note: I know this does not apply to all Conservatives ... some are already fighting the good fight, but their numbers are few compared to the Progs).


22 posted on 03/11/2012 6:48:41 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Kaslin

The problem with the conservative movement is that for many it has become a comfortable career with health insurance and retirement benefits and nothing more.


23 posted on 03/11/2012 6:54:38 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: Kaslin

I’ve been lamenting for years that if the MSM won’t cover conservative causes/events (a given) BUY time on TV and get the message out.

IMO conservative leaders have the mindset that most folks will ask, be critical of the BS that liberals and the MSM spew out. Wrong !
It’s the headlines stupid !

Just Friday I watched Diane Sawyer of ABC fame talking about our 4th warmest winter and the link to Global Warming.
No mention of last winter or Europe,Middle East, Asia gripped in the Winter of all Winters. Buried under tens of feet of snow. Even snowing in Algeria, Morocco.
Ninety nine percent of the watchers of her will shake their heads and think Global Warming must be here, never looking at the rest of the globe.


24 posted on 03/11/2012 6:55:11 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: InterceptPoint

“We need to take over media outlets. Also, when we do have a foot in the door, forget this “fair and balanced” crap.”

I would be happy to take over NBC Universal for you. Unfortunately, I don’t have an extra $30 Billion at the moment. Maybe next payday.


25 posted on 03/11/2012 6:58:22 AM PDT by FerociousRabbit
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To: FerociousRabbit

I would be happy to take over NBC Universal for you. Unfortunately, I don’t have an extra $30 Billion at the moment. Maybe next payday.
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Me neither. But until some conservative person or group comes along and takes over CBS, NBC, ABC or Faux News we are operating at a huge disadvantage.


26 posted on 03/11/2012 7:08:45 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: DCBryan1
Our forefathers would have been shooting by now.

Damn right!
27 posted on 03/11/2012 7:11:21 AM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: Kaslin

It is frustrating to see so clearly how liberalism is damaging our country, and then hear the chorus of voices telling us we may have to put up with four more years of this crap.

I’m not ready to give the “conservative movement” its last rites just yet.

The media echo chamber does make it seem as if all is lost. I am however, consoled by the memory of how the Democrats were pretty well torn apart by their contentious primary in 2007 and 2008, and they seem to have come out of it ok. I am also heartened by the fact that the vaunted liberal media shilled for each and every Democrat who ran in 2010, and the left still received an historic drubbing.

We should take some comfort in the fact that one of the lessons of the 2010 elections is that the voting populace is willing at times to not listen to what the media wants them to believe.

Since 2010 we’ve witnessed more failure of liberal policies. This is what we see. What we are being told we are seeing of course, is different, but at what point do people begin to believe their own eyes?

The gulf between what is seen with our own eyes and what the media wants us to believe has never been greater. This chasm could easily become the media’s credibility gap. It’s the media’s credibility that needs to be put on death watch, not the conservative movement.

We may even be approaching the point where people begin to believe the opposite of what they hear from sources they can no longer rely upon.

For three years now, the media has been creating an alternative universe, one in which everything is fine with the economy and the Obama presidency. These are the waters we will continue to be required to swim in, right up to the election. The question is will the media meme be believed or will enough sentient voters consider the source and vote on what they can see with their own eyes?

If the voters are swayed as much as they were in 2010, then Obama and the left will receive another shellacking.


28 posted on 03/11/2012 7:19:47 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: DCBryan1
This is one of the great dichotomies of American history.

The Republicans, ostensibly the "Party of Business," have truly "sucked" (sorry there is no other modern term that is apt)at Advertising and Public Relations, the engines of business, and of course, politics. You are correct of course. The MSM is hostile and "Conservatives" need to buy and pay for their place in the market. Where are the full page ads in the New York Times and the WSJ? The policy "infomercials?" Why is there no "conservative" Bill Maher?

Instead of spending wisely, The RNC will take half a billion or so and dump it on a complete charlatan like Karl Rove, who will turn around and subcontract it to an ad agency or communication company ... usually owned by a Democrat and staffed with same ... to produce at vaste and insane expense.... senseless, themeless, boring, message-less commercials and ads that would shame any used car company in your town.

Then, they will cut crooked deals to place same in notoriously uneconomical media buys. In short, if an advertising or PR agency did this to a commercial client they would be cashiered overnight.

Many have pointed this out over the years to no avail. A bright spot: Many local Republican races are more or less intelligently run. This is a clue to a thought process: The Republican Party has abdicated its true place in fighting to manage a constitutional government in exchange for safe seats from which they can protect the interests of those who can pay for it. The Republican "Establishment" seems to have a single goal: to remain a minority party, but hopefully strong enough to maintain a good spot at the table where the swag is divided with the Democrats. That's all they will fight for.

Dilemma: The Republican Party is in its ugly, senile death throes. But, what is to replace it? The Democrats and Republicans between them have so jiggered the system that a new party seems impossible to start, much less take off.

The Model is there. It is the Republican Party of the 1840's and 50's, built around a Big Idea: Abolition. Now we need another Big Idea ... and we have one. Constitution. But it seems few politicians will fight ... much less die ... for it.

29 posted on 03/11/2012 7:22:59 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: joe fonebone
...let’s party like it’s 1929

Good suggestion. It's party time!

30 posted on 03/11/2012 7:33:10 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Kaslin
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31 posted on 03/11/2012 7:39:57 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Caipirabob

That is probably the most succint analysis I’ve seen yet!


32 posted on 03/11/2012 7:44:48 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: trebb

Lol - thanks, I had fun with it!


33 posted on 03/11/2012 7:56:26 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Kaslin

Well I can remember the bad old days when there was NO conservative movement. Before Goldwater and Buckley, few of us knew what a conservative was. So we have made a huge amount of progress.

And the Tea Party is proof that the public is waking up. Most of those people have never been involved in politics before or in any kind of protest movement. Wait until this election cycle is over and then see how many bums get thrown out of Congress.


34 posted on 03/11/2012 7:59:10 AM PDT by Liberty Wins (Newt --named after Isaac Newton?)
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To: wayoverontheright

I am not ready to throw the towel in either like some in here are willing to do.


35 posted on 03/11/2012 7:59:23 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
What’s Wrong with the Conservative Movement?

The problem is that conservatives don't fully embrace [insert pet issue here].

36 posted on 03/11/2012 8:01:16 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (I'm a constitutionalist, not a libertarian. Huge difference.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

The quality of a democracy cannot exceed the quality of the press. If a conservative speaks in the town square, does he make a sound? Not unless the press covers it.


37 posted on 03/11/2012 8:14:07 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Kaslin

In Presidential politics this “Anybody But [fill in name of democrat]” philosophy is killing us. It means we throw away all standards, all principles and replace it with one goal -electing a republican. Means we will accept ANYONE the GOP elites hand us.

We are giving up our minds and our souls to the GOP elite.


38 posted on 03/11/2012 8:22:05 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Kaslin
What we need is someone with the money and guts to break the mold. Since most people don’t watch the news, we need to go where the most people are – prime-time television.

They fight under the Marquis of Queensbury rules; the left employs a guerrilla warfare designed to win at all costs.

CLICK ON IMAGE.... BREITBART

39 posted on 03/11/2012 8:32:39 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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To: joe fonebone; Cringing Negativism Network
do some research beyond what your brothers down at the union hall tell you...

Whatever the argument was, you've already lost it when you dispense with reason, and go straight to name-calling.

No one here has advocated any pro-union policies.

For most of the past two decades there have been no impediments to globalist "free trade" or Ricardian economic insanity, and the result for the USA is a whopping $16 Trillion national debt, record real unemployment, record foreclosures, and massive corruption in every sector of society as people try to survive this manufactured economic nightmare.

The Romney wing of the Republican party is just as crony communist as the controlling wing of the Democrat party, and none of their policies are beneficial to American citizens, our national security, our economic soundness, or our future as a nation.

40 posted on 03/11/2012 8:35:55 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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