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Rejecting Romney (Why Evangelicals can't pull the lever for him)
National Review ^ | 03/14/2012 | Katrina Trinko

Posted on 03/14/2012 6:37:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In state after state, evangelicals have sent Mitt Romney a clear message: We’re just not that into you.

Some evangelicals do pull the lever for Romney. But consistently there is a wide gap between Romney’s support among evangelicals and his support among other groups. On average, there is a 19-point difference between Romney’s support among non-evangelicals and his support among evangelicals in Republican primaries, according to ABC News’s survey of primary states with exit- or entrance-polling data available.

That’s a sizeable gap — and one that has complicated Romney’s path to the nomination.

Evangelical leaders are dismissive of the notion that Romney’s faith is alienating a significant chunk of evangelical voters, though they acknowledge that it may be influencing a small number. Gary Bauer, president of American Values and a Rick Santorum supporter, points out that Mormons are key political allies. “In the war over the kind of country we are, evangelicals and serious Catholics and Mormons tend to be all on the same side of the public-policy issues that are being debated in a campaign,” he says.

Ralph Reed, founder and chairman of the Faith and Freedom Coalition, thinks that the Mormon issue was already hashed out in 2008. “While Romney is not going to get some evangelicals’ votes as a result of it, I don’t think that it’s a significant factor at all,” he says, adding that Jon Huntsman’s run also helped. “The fact that you had two Mormons in the race just made it less of a novelty.”

Reed says other factors account for this gap. “I think the bigger issues have been his record as a governor of Massachusetts — especially Romneycare — and the fact that he’s running in a primary against candidates who have been much more identified with the issues and values of voters of faith,” he says.

Bob Vander Plaats, a prominent social-conservative activist in Iowa and head of the Family Leader, also highlights Romney’s record in Massachusetts. “We hear today that’s he pro-life, but we also hear that when he was governor he put in $50 co-pay abortions in the state,” he says. “We hear today that God’s design for marriage [is] one man, one woman, yet he basically presided over same-sex marriage in the state.”

The Romney campaign defends the ex-governor’s record on both matters, arguing that Massachusetts law and past court decisions made it illegal for a health-care plan not to fund abortions, and noting that Romney pushed for a state constitutional amendment to define marriage as between a man and a woman after same-sex marriage was legalized by the Massachusetts supreme court. But it’s likely Vander Plaats is not alone in his view of Romney’s record on these issues.

“There’s a trust gap,” Vander Plaats adds. “I think a lot of us conservatives feel that he will morph into who you want him to be depending on which campaign he’s in.”

Bauer agrees that some may be concerned that Romney’s position switches aren’t authentic. However, he argues that the larger problem Romney faces is that even voters who are willing to believe he has sincerely changed his views are wary of his willingness to passionately fight on those issues. Evangelicals, Bauer observes, are doubtful that values issues “would play much of a role in the expenditure of political capital or energy in his administration.”

Referencing Mitch Daniels’s call for a “truce” on social issues, Bauer argues that it’s the Left, not the Right, that is more aggressively fighting the culture wars — and that Romney is having trouble persuading voters he has enough fire in his belly to fight back. “There’s this lack of confidence that he will make the case in these inevitable flare-ups persuasively and passionately — like he means it,” Bauer remarks.

But Romney’s biggest problem when it comes to wooing evangelicals may be something outside of his control: his rivals. “He’s got tough competition, particularly in Rick Santorum,” observes Richard Land, director of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission. “Rick Santorum’s a tremendously appealing candidate to evangelicals because of his uncompromising pro-life and pro-family stands for many, many years.”

Reed agrees that Santorum’s candidacy poses challenges to Romney’s quest for evangelical votes, noting that Santorum’s “deep and profound faith gives him an emotional connection” with such voters.

Nonetheless, while Romney may not be connecting with a majority of evangelical voters, he doesn’t usually need to. “Unless it’s Iowa or South Carolina or Oklahoma, Romney needs to get about a third of these voters to win these primaries. He doesn’t need to get a majority, he doesn’t need to get a plurality,” Reed notes, pointing to the fact that Romney won one out of every three evangelical voters in Michigan and Ohio. “If Rick gets half that vote or a little more, and Romney gets a third of that vote, Romney is eking out victory, which is what he did in Michigan and Ohio.”

But even if there is a path to Tampa that doesn’t involve gaining significantly more evangelical support, Romney will nevertheless need every vote he can get in the general election. Even a slight decrease in the evangelical turnout could be hugely problematic, says Bauer, who predicts 2012 will be a “base election” and notes that if even 1 to 3 percent of voters stay home on Election Day that could “throw one state or another in the wrong column.”

Vander Plaats raises a different concern: Evangelicals might vote, but not volunteer for the campaign. “There’s a big difference in having someone vote against Barack Obama versus voting enthusiastically for Mitt Romney,” he remarks. “Because if it’s an enthusiastic vote, they’ve done the door-knocking, the phone calls — [they’ve been] influencing their network.”

Other evangelical leaders disagree, arguing that evangelical voters will be energized by their determination to prevent a second Obama term. “Whatever concerns they may have about Mormonism are trumped by their heightening fears of what may lay in store in a second Obama administration,” Land says.

Reed agrees. “I don’t think you can underestimate the extent to which millions of evangelicals believe that preventing a second Obama term is a moral imperative,” he says. “There has never been an administration in U.S. history more hostile to the values held by conservative people of faith than the Obama administration”

What Romney can do, say faith leaders, is try harder to woo evangelicals. “He could help himself a lot if he would get into a fight with the president or somebody on the Left over a values issue,” says Bauer. “He says the right thing when he’s asked about these things, but it’s almost always when he’s asked.”

If Romney becomes the nominee, there are additional steps he could take, including picking a running mate who appeals to evangelicals. He could opt to highlight issues dear to evangelicals in his convention speech: Reed thinks Romney should include more of the kind of talk that he had in his CPAC speech, in which he talked about his opposition to embryo harvesting and his efforts to fight for the restoration of traditional marriage in Massachusetts.

The fact that Santorum will have had his moment could also boost Romney’s standing among evangelicals in the general election. “I actually think that Santorum particularly getting a chance to have a full shot at it may actually benefit Romney, because social conservatives will feel like they had a fair shot, and they lost,” Land says. “And that will make it easier for them to unite around Romney than if they felt like they were double dealt out of a fair chance.”

There are signs, too, that evangelicals aren’t so much opposed to a Romney presidency as they simply prefer his rivals. In Virginia, for instance, where neither Santorum nor Gingrich was on the ballot, Romney won 62 percent of the evangelical vote.

And for Romney, the last general election carries a hopeful precedent.

“McCain similarly did very poorly among evangelicals throughout the primary,” remarks Reed, pointing out that evangelicals preferred Mike Huckabee. And McCain had done himself no favors with evangelicals by calling Jerry Falwell one of “the agents of intolerance” in the United States in 2000.

“Going into the general against Obama, you would have thought this was going to be a problem,” Reed says of McCain’s difficulties. Instead, McCain — who had apologized to Falwell in 2006 — won evangelicals more handily than one of the most religious candidates in recent history. “By the time we got to November,” says Reed, “McCain won a higher percentage of the evangelical vote than George W. Bush did in 2000.”

— Katrina Trinko is an NRO reporter.


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1 posted on 03/14/2012 6:37:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
There are signs, too, that evangelicals aren’t so much opposed to a Romney presidency as they simply prefer his rivals. In Virginia, for instance, where neither Santorum nor Gingrich was on the ballot, Romney won 62 percent of the evangelical vote.

So, in a race between Romney and Ron Paul, Romney only got 62% of the vote? That's not good news.

2 posted on 03/14/2012 6:41:43 AM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I lived in New England. It isn’t just the evangelicals. I’m about as far as you can get from evangelical and still be human and wouldn’t vote for that bas-turd on a bet.


3 posted on 03/14/2012 6:48:42 AM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: SeekAndFind
It has nothing to do with my evangelical beliefs. Myth is NOT who he says he is. We have already got one like that.

vaudine

4 posted on 03/14/2012 6:49:03 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: SeekAndFind

I am evangelical and the reason for not voting for Mittens has nothing to do with his mormonism. It’s based on the fact that he flip flops more than a fish out of water.
Freegards
Lex


5 posted on 03/14/2012 6:53:09 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: SeekAndFind; justiceseeker93; vette6387; JLAGRAYFOX; Doogle; Foolsgold; left that other site; ...

RomneyCare = ObamaCare= AuschwitzCare = Holocaust II

Never Again is here, in my opinion, courtesy of this Regime and the US Congress. Instead of showers and a wooden bar of soap, We The People, will be given a pill and sent to a Government Hospice Center while your family members “plead for your life.” If you doubt what I’m predicting, please tell us how it differs. Ask yourself who Big Bro and Big Sis’s victims will be as they deny healthcare based on “their criteria.”

Could this be the Elitist Politician’s fix for Social Security excluding them, of course.


6 posted on 03/14/2012 6:57:24 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: SeekAndFind

Evangelicals don’t much care about a candidate’s religion; they just want a president to lives and breathes conservativism. Mitt ain’t that guy. We knew that the day we learned he had to hire a coach to learn “conservative speak”. I think that was the day after he said he wanted to raise the minimum wage and conservatives freaked out. He’s clueless.


7 posted on 03/14/2012 7:01:20 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Don't blame me; I voted for the American.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

How would Southerner’s react to an honest Northern Candidate who honestly says — He isn’t much for eating grits? (instead of pretending he likes it)?

I spoke to a cousin of mine who lives in Huntsville, Alabama and he said — “Now such honesty would be refreshing.”


8 posted on 03/14/2012 7:05:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: SeekAndFind

Are you kidding? I can hardly imagine voting for a man that thinks his destiny is to be a god on another planet.


9 posted on 03/14/2012 7:06:02 AM PDT by grumpa
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To: ExTexasRedhead

In a nutshell, Mitt Romney is a flawed candidate with a fatal flaw, Romneycare!!! As you will clearly note, the Republican Primary voters are not listenting to a word that the Obamabot, media and pundits, including many Republican establishment type that Romney has the GOP nomination sewed up!!! This fight IMHO, will continue until at least June of this year!!!

The lamestream media is not being listed to, heeded and is now dead in the water. Obama is going down to defeat in November, big time. His “hope & change “ jive, works no more!!! The man is a disgrace to America, to his people and to himself, useless fool that he is!!!


10 posted on 03/14/2012 7:08:13 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy POTUS Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: vaudine
“It has nothing to do with my evangelical beliefs. Myth is NOT who he says he is. We have already got one like that.”

Romney is about as much a Mormon as Nancy Pelosi is a Catholic, which is to say that he doesn't subscribe to the most basic tenets of Mormonism. But like Pelosi, Romney manages to skate with his church's leadership on his apostasy because of his power and money.

11 posted on 03/14/2012 7:08:56 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: SeekAndFind; greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; Godzilla; MHGinTN; narses; reaganaut; ...
This Evangelical Christian will never vote for any Mormon for any elective office!

Under no circumstances will I ever stand before my Maker and explain that I supported a cultist who directly or through his organization proclaimed that:

  1. There are more gods than the one God revealed in the Bible.

  2. God is a glorified, perfected human being with a body of flesh and bone.

  3. God is polygamously married to dozens (at least) of wives, and spends eternity as a type of Celestial Stud engaged in endless copulation producing countless spirit babies.

  4. Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer.

  5. Jesus is the literal Son of God who was conceived through direct sexual intercourse between the Virgin Mary and God the Father -- or in other words, that God committed incest with his daughter Mary.

  6. A person is saved into heaven by virtue of their good works.

  7. A person must accept Joseph Smith in order to receive salvation and must then pass in judgment before Joseph Smith before being admitted into Heaven.

  8. A person must believe in Prophet Lorenzo Snow's famous couplet: As man now is, God once was ... As God now is, Man may become … that a person must be sealed in a Masonic-based temple ceremony to his/her spouse for time and all eternity in order to become gods and goddesses ruling over our own planet.

  9. Non-whites are loathsome and cursed because of something they did or did not do in the dawn of pre-existence whereas people of European descent in general, and Mormons in particular, are white and delightsome and thus superior to minorities.

  10. Wives will only be resurrected after their husbands after he calls out their Temple Name from beyond the veil.

  11. Christianity ceased to exist after the death of the twelve apostles, to the point where all Christian Churches (especially the Baptists, Catholics, Methodists and Presbyterians) became an abomination in the eyes of the Lord.

  12. The Mormon Church is Christian.

Furthermore, I can't believe that any true Christian anywhere would ever contemplate supporting any candidate for any public office that espouses such horrible heretical and blasphemous doctrines -- be they Muslim, Mormon, or whatever.
12 posted on 03/14/2012 7:30:22 AM PDT by Zakeet (Obozo is to competent as an Etch-A-Sketch is to art)
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To: SeekAndFind

I can’t because he’s a liberal and a liar.


13 posted on 03/14/2012 7:33:01 AM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: SeekAndFind
having surfed some evangelical sites, it seems Romney's Mormonism is more of a problem than I ever thought it would be, especially in the South.

I recall clearly that when Kennedy was running for president, many expressed concerns that the Pope would soon be calling the shots for JFK.

Religion is a factor, like it or not.

14 posted on 03/14/2012 7:33:22 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: vette6387; vaudine; FastCoyote; Zakeet; svcw

Romney is about as much a Mormon as Nancy Pelosi is a Catholic, which is to say that he doesn’t subscribe to the most basic tenets of Mormonism.

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You are kidding, right?!?!?! Just what ‘tenets’ does Mitt not subcribe to according to you?

Because the opposite is true, Mitt is a dyed in the wool, faithful, believing, practicing Mormon. He is actually the epitome of being a Mormon.

He is a liberal who lies to get what he wants BECAUSE he is a Mormon, not in spite of it. Sorry to burst your bubble.


15 posted on 03/14/2012 7:48:43 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: vette6387

I am not sure you know anything about mormonism to make the statement you have made.
Romney is mormonism. He is as high in the corporation as one came go without being one of the twelve.
Romney is who he is because of his mormonism not in spite of it.
There is nothing that Romney has done, or how he has governed that violate any mormonism principles.


16 posted on 03/14/2012 7:53:05 AM PDT by svcw (CLEAN WATER & Education http://www.longlostsis.com/PI/MayanHelp2012.html)
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To: Zakeet

Bears repeating...often.


17 posted on 03/14/2012 7:54:39 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Praise Jesus! I have been redeemed from the "restoration" of mormonism!)
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To: svcw

I AM a Mormon. Have been for almost 72 years. I am disgusted with the General Authorities hiding under their desks with respect to Romney and Reid. Neither of them should be considered to be members in good standing for a number of positions that they have taken as politicians. So I have to disagree with your assessment. By the way, on a recent visit, I discussed the problems I have with Reid as regards his worthiness with the Home Teachers. Their response was that the entire Ward was up in arms that Reid had not already been excommunicated!!! I also think its a disgrace for Romney to use groups of missionaries and BYU students to “populate” his rallies. There is just nothing about Romney that any decent Mormon should respect. The idea that Romney is destined to be “called” to be a member of the Twelve causes me to shudder. He personifies the biblical passage: “though they draw near to me with their lips, their hearts, they are far from Me.”


18 posted on 03/14/2012 8:35:12 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: elpadre

I recall clearly that when Kennedy was running for president, many expressed concerns that the Pope would soon be calling the shots for JFK.

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There is a huge difference between JFK and the Pope and Mitt and the LDS prophet (Thomas S. Monson atm).

The first of which, the Pope presides universally but from Europe not the Western United States. He is European and would practically be more likely to insert himself in EU politics rather than US - but that is unlikely.

The LDS prophet has insterted himself in US politics in the past - even Bob Bennet addmitted that he was ‘forcefully encouraged’ and in one case even ordered to pass legislation/earmark that would directly benefit the Mormon church. Also, being a US religion (primarily) the LDS prophet (and the Mormon church is a very political animal despite their protestation to the contrary) is more interested in US politics.

There is also a differene in how the view their heirarchy. Mormon Hierarchy and demands for obedience are absolute in Mormonism. You get out of line (like historian Grant Palmer) you are punished.

Finally, Mitt as POTUS would be used for Propaganda purposes for the LDS church to lessen the tide of those leaving (like Glenn Beck). Also, I guarantee Mitt will be held up as a fulfillment of a prophecy Smith made about his own run for POTUS in 1844 just for this purpose.

So, while tempting, the comparison between JFK and Mitt just doesn’t hold water. Mormonism and Catholicism are vastly different.


19 posted on 03/14/2012 8:44:04 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: SeekAndFind

The biggest tactic Liberals use is victimization. They think making Romney a victim of his religion will get him elected.


20 posted on 03/14/2012 8:48:51 AM PDT by aimhigh
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