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To: af_vet_rr
You make a couple of interesting points - to say GWB was no conservative is to say that the people he got onto the Surpreme Court are not conservative or that having the money we spend on schools make better schools is not conservative. We would not have a need for NCLB if states like Calif did not get federal money to teach gender studies instead of American History.

Here is a solid fact you can take to the bank, in 2000 80% of all federal and state inmates could not read at 4th grade level. What happens when you get people able to read and they no longer need to steal to make a living? NCLB has improved the 4th and 8th grade reading of TX kids. In the past five years - 10 years after the TX model for NCLB program started our prison growth has been FLAT!! As a supporter of Kiros in TX prisons it is proven that the folks who can read stay out of prison once released at a higher rate than those that can't read. Is reducing CRIME a conservative ideal? Then NCLB may be a big help.

26 posted on 03/14/2012 3:18:41 PM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: q_an_a
to say GWB was no conservative is to say that the people he got onto the Surpreme Court are not conservative or that having the money we spend on schools make better schools is not conservative.

It's not saying that at all. GWB oversaw the biggest and most powerful expansion of the federal government in our history. Don't pretend he's a Conservative or defend him by defending his judge appointees.

We would not have a need for NCLB if states like Calif did not get federal money to teach gender studies instead of American History.

Here's an idea: Get rid of NCLB and stop sending education tax dollars to Washington. If the idiots in California want to run their schools into the ground, let them. It should not be the federal government's job to dictate what local schools do with taxpayer money, it should be up to the local taxpayers. If the local taxpayers want to support such idiotic things, let them.

Here is a solid fact you can take to the bank, in 2000 80% of all federal and state inmates could not read at 4th grade level.

Here's a solid fact that you can take to the bank: There are going to be people who do not finish school or who don't have parents that help them succeed in school, and teacher ratios, spending per student, NCLB, or anything else of the nature will not fix it. It's funny you mention Texas, we have a tremendous number of immigrants who do not speak English, do not have anything approaching a high school education, and NCLB is not going to fix that. If anything, it will hurt us as their numbers increase, because their children will drag down our scores and we'll have to spend more and more on ESL.

The federal government should not be involved in local school issues and the federal government is wasting taxpayer money that could be better spent by local schools just by its very nature of existence - for every tax dollar you send to Washington, you do not get a dollar back, not even close.
27 posted on 03/15/2012 11:50:51 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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