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Kentucky Bill to Bar Welfare for Illegal Aliens Clears Key Committee
Stand With Arizona ^ | 03-16-2012 | John Hill

Posted on 03/16/2012 7:59:00 AM PDT by montag813

by John Hill
Stand With Arizona

Finally a state is stepping up to stop the fleecing of social service programs by illegal aliens.

A Kentucky Senate panel unanimously approved a bill Thursday that would require applicants to government welfare programs to provide official proof of U.S. citizenship or legal residency.

Federal law prohibits illegal immigrants from receiving most forms of welfare, including Medicaid, food stamps, WIC, public housing and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. But that hasn't illegal aliens from stealing tens of billions of these services across the nation.

Illegal alien advocates such as La Raza, MALDEF and the ACLU insist that illegal aliens do not collect welfare - cynically ignoring the fact that so many states and the Federal government simply do not verify immigration status before dispensing billions in aid.

We profiled one such case in Georgia last year of illegals getting WIC vouchers (and then selling them) in Gwinnett County, GA:

And we also showed the insane case of the Florida heroin kingpin who was discovered to be an illegal alien who collected food stamps.

EXCERPT...CLICK HERE FOR REST OF ARTICLE.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegals; immigration; welfare

1 posted on 03/16/2012 7:59:06 AM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Man oh man, why does a bill like this even need to be filed?

Shouldn’t this be common sense....oh, wait...


2 posted on 03/16/2012 8:07:08 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: montag813

Federal law prohibits illegal immigrants from receiving most forms of welfare, including Medicaid, food stamps, WIC, public housing and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. But that hasn’t illegal aliens from stealing tens of billions of these services across the nation.


And, of course, the Federal Government will fight tooth and nail any measure to help prevent/uncover such fraud. Sadly, that has been true of both Democratic AND Republican administrations.


3 posted on 03/16/2012 8:07:50 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: rbg81

“But that hasn’t illegal aliens from stealing tens of billions of these services across the nation.”

And no doubt these crimes aren’t being prosecuted.


4 posted on 03/16/2012 8:09:06 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: servantboy777

I moved to KY from Seattle last August. Every time there is an article about some political activity in Seattle I say, “And just another reason why I left.” With KY, it’s almost the opposite. “Just another reason why I moved here.”

Key word: Almost


5 posted on 03/16/2012 8:19:31 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: montag813

The Illegal lobby is very adept at using their (anchor baby) children as human shields.


6 posted on 03/16/2012 8:19:44 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: montag813

The moving trucks are on their way...These people know the ropes...Doesn’t matter which state they live in.


7 posted on 03/16/2012 8:23:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: montag813

good


8 posted on 03/16/2012 8:27:16 AM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: montag813

Kudos to Kentucky!


9 posted on 03/16/2012 8:46:08 AM PDT by khelus
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To: montag813

In South Florida whole towns are illegals on welfare of every kind.
These folks all work in the sugar cattle or citrus industries and ICE is NEVER around. Like a protected class the illegals of Pahokee, LaBelle, South Bay, Indiantown, etc have NEVER seen ICE agents.
This morning I flew to Pahokee for a touch and go. As I took Off I counted over thirty huge sugar cane fields on fire purposly set, Where the hell is the EPA?


10 posted on 03/16/2012 8:46:53 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: montag813

“Illegal alien advocates such as La Raza, MALDEF and the ACLU insist that illegal aliens do not collect welfare”

They they shouldn’t have any problem with a law that does nothing, should they?


11 posted on 03/16/2012 9:13:59 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: rbg81

“And, of course, the Federal Government will fight tooth and nail any measure to help prevent/uncover such fraud. Sadly, that has been true of both Democratic AND Republican administrations.”

Exactly the thought that entered my head when I read the article—Enter Holder’s Justice Department!


12 posted on 03/16/2012 9:18:54 AM PDT by MNGal
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To: MNGal

In fact, if a Government case work dares to ask for ID, they THEY’RE the criminal.


13 posted on 03/16/2012 9:20:50 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: montag813

I hear that LA County, Kalipornia spends a half billion a year for welfare for illegals.


14 posted on 03/16/2012 9:42:26 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL
I hear that LA County, Kalipornia spends a half billion a year for welfare for illegals.

Wouldn't surprise me. The US NET spent on the 30 - 40 million illegals is 14/ - 1/3 trillion annually. Legal immigrant households NET cost $20,000 per year.
15 posted on 03/16/2012 11:16:05 AM PDT by khelus
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To: montag813
I signed up for the WIC program many years ago, and was on it for either six months, or a year, I forget the length of time.
I do remember having to go back at least once to their office with my ID and recent pay stubs, to re-qualify.
After I got a small raise, I knew I did not qualify for the program anymore, so I never went back.
I always had to show my ID card when I used the WIC vouchers at the grocery store.
WIC food vouchers helped me stretch my grocery budget quite a bit each month, and I remember that the weekly vouchers changed after my child was born, since I was breastfeeding, and included fresh vegetables.
No, I am not particularly proud of the fact that I benefited from the WIC program, but it did help me immensely at a time when it was a choice between buying food and paying the utility bills.
That said, I always had to show my ID, and sign off on each voucher as I used it, and initial off the strike through when I dent use everything on the voucher (dried beans mostly)

My drivers license was recorded on each voucher as it was used, and there was no way to use the next weeks voucher in advance of the date range, or after the expiration of the date range.
Use them or not, the WIC vouchers were not “coupons” and supposedly had no cash value on the black market.

I would rather endure a little personal shame, than support a system that allows massive corruption.

16 posted on 03/16/2012 5:48:59 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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ICE's "documents and benefits fraud task force" found: A common practice among "impoverished" illegals is to buy several faked identitues for several thousand dollars each----the illegal then votes and rides the US gravy train under several names.

One latino stole $3.2 million UI benefits using several identities. Jose Madrigal---the Washington state rapist---had some 30 identities.

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REFERENCE July 21, 2006----BERGEN RECORD, NJ

REFERENCE Texans accused of selling counterfeit IDs (impoverished illegals "here for a better life" pay several thousand $$$ for fake ID's)

Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, NJ L/E authorities said.

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution. The Drug Interdiction Task Force regularly runs checks.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. Authorities approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately.

The Texas brothers consented to a search. Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####

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Illegal Manuel Mejia Ordonez ordered to repay $3M in Calif employment fraud
San Francisco Chronicle | June 26, 2010
FR Posted June 26, 2010 by artichokegrower

A former Marysville resident has been sentenced to prison and ordered to pay back $3 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment compensation.

US Attorney Benjamin B. Wagner said 31-year-old Manuel Mejia Ordonez was sentenced to eight years and one month in prison for conspiracy to commit mail fraud and identity theft. (Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...

QUESTION How does a citizen of Mexico make $3 million in unemployment claims? A. By establishing multiple identities. The fraudster, Manuel Mejia Ordonez, got eight years for conspiracy to commit mail fraud........and identity theft.

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THE "JUST HERE FOR A BETTER LIFE" SCAM "Impoverished" illegals buy multiple fake identities for several thousand dollars each. Jose Madrigal---the Washington State rapist---had some 30 identities.

A family of four can have an income of $30,000 a year and still qualify for food stamps----with just one identity. A single mother, with two children who has a full time job that pays $7.25 an hour has an effective income of $48,000 a year when you add all the benefits she and her children receive from the government: food stamps, Medicaid coverage, subsidized child care, school lunch program, “Temporary” Assistance to Needy Families, subsidized housing, Earned Income Tax Credit, etc......with just one identity.

REFERENCE The Federal ID that Pays Illegal Aliens Billions -----November 28, 2011

......a recent analysis entitled, “Treasury Department Says Illegal Aliens Collection Billions in Tax Credits,” revealed that according to the Department of Treasury’s Inspector General, more than $4.2 billion in additional child credits were paid out in 2010 to illegal immigrants. In 2005, the pay outs totaled $924 million. This program allows low income earners to claim a $1,000 per child credit.

EITC claims---can run up to over $3000 per claim. $20 billion is estimated to have been paid out to these cunning "impoverished" illegals. Most of them are collecting over and over again-----using multiple identities-----falsifying apps---claiming children they do not have and/or falsely stating kids are back in their homelands. , and that plans to mitigate those concerns were incomplete.


WDSU / FR Posted by Arthurio, March 8

ENNER, La. -- Kenner police have arrested an illegal immigrant living in La Place in connection with a tax scam. Police said Tuesday that $20,000 was seized as evidence from his vehicle. Officers responding to a disturbance Friday found Marvin Baca in an argument about false W-2 forms that he sold to another illegal immigrant for $1,500, Kenner police said. Police said Baca was arrested and confessed to a scam, saying he has been selling fictitious W-2 forms for $1,500 to other Hispanics who are in the country illegally. Police said that on one of the forged W-2 forms had a social security number of a person living in Virginia. Police said illegal Hispanics purchase fictitious W-2 forms and file false tax returns with the government to receive a refund. Baca was charged with one count of identity theft and two counts of forgery.

Read more: http://www.wdsu.com/news/30618342/detail.html#ixzz1oZcGWUEb

17 posted on 03/17/2012 11:54:25 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Clintonfatigued; CodeToad; La Lydia; miss marmelstein; Condor51; rintense; TADSLOS; ...
THE US DESCENT INTO THIRD WORLD STATUS CONTINUES APACE

Now that she’s debased marriage and American values on ntl TV——actress Eva Longoria has started the Eva Longoria Foundation. A party sponsored by Vanity Fair and Chrysler on behalf of the Foundation, took place at Longoria’s restaurant, Beso, located in Hollywood.

Longoria wrote an op-ed for Huff/Post, explaining the intentions of her new foundation:

“I was born and raised in Corpus Christi, Texas, just a few hours from the U.S.-Mexico border. My family has lived there for nine generations. As a Mexican-American growing up in a city with a large Hispanic community, my hybrid identity was not unique; many friends and classmates experienced a similar cultural mix. Growing up in this vibrant community left me with a strong desire to give back,” Longoria explained.

“Our mission is to help Latinas build better futures for themselves and their families through education and entrepreneurship. We will support programs which help Latinas become college graduates. And we will provide Latinas with career training, mentorship, capital and opportunity.”

18 posted on 03/17/2012 12:03:33 PM PDT by Liz
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