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What are everyone’s thoughts about the long term prospects of the conservative movement? Is working within the Republican Party preferable to.....?


17 posted on 03/17/2012 9:15:40 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: trappedincanuckistan; onyx

>> What are everyone’s thoughts about the long term prospects of the conservative movement?

Well, we have a significant portion voting for an establishment bit player.


21 posted on 03/17/2012 9:26:10 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
What are everyone’s thoughts about the long term prospects of the conservative movement? Is working within the Republican Party preferable to.....?

These are mine in the following post from born to Conserve. He said it much better than me, but I once tried to encourage this Freeper who was saying he was tired, he had had it, no more republican party, he wasn't going to do anything but prepare for the end of America. And I tried to tell him, I could understand why he was tired, but if he could hold on, and even vote for romney if he had to, on Jan 21, 2013, we could start organizing to oppose romney at re-election, and a new generation of young people would be on board because of Newt. a lot can be done in 4 years, and no 3rd party this time to screw things up really.

03/16/2012 9:47:19 PM PDT · 65 of 72 Born to Conserve to true believer forever

The dual party system is about to shift on its axis. In the great depression, the distinguishing axis was that of socialism vs individual rights. During WWII and the Cold War, the distinguishing axis was socialism vs national defense. Now we’re going back to the socialism vs individual rights.

Seeing the pattern? We have to quash socialism once and for all. Get rid of the red menace, and everything else will resolve itself.

What to expect: the republican party is going to split, the “Tea Party” will form, the big government socialists will go to the democrat party and the republican party will cease to exist. In the democrat party, the moral conservatives will go to the Tea Party, and the socialists will remain. For this election cycle, Romney will win, and will be the last Republican (in name) president. During his reign, the representatives and senators will start taking sides, of the aisle, literally. The left (democrats) will support Romney, the right (Tea Partyers) will oppose him.

Gingrich and Palin will be elected in four years under the new Tea Party.


32 posted on 03/17/2012 9:45:24 PM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
What are everyone’s thoughts about the long term prospects of the conservative movement? Is working within the Republican Party preferable to.....?

I'm ready to pull the plug. This primary is dashing my hopes, but a brokered convention with blood on the floor might prove to be the remedy.

GO Sarah and Newt!

40 posted on 03/17/2012 9:56:01 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
If we don't have enough boots on the ground to take over the Republican party through our votes, then how in the heck would we ever have enough votes to create a third party that would overtake them? I think we need to take back the party as our own. Giving primary challenges to RINOs is a great thing.

Why conservatives failed in this presidential primary is something that has to be looked at. It seems like none of us expected so much of the "conservative" media to be working against us, e.g. Drudge, Coulter, radio hosts like Medved and Hewitt, most of the FOX analysts, National Review, etc. Names need to be named and lists need to be made. We need to remember who we can trust and who we can't.

We also had no way of combatting the false advertising blitz by Mitt Romney. I'm not sure how you do that unless you raise that kind of money on your own and run your own ads. If the Tea Party is nothing but a splintered group of disorganized local groups, they'll never have that kind of power. There should be a stronger, national, central Tea Party structure. Not one that dictates to the local factions, but one that follows their lead. It might be unlikely, but short of something like that I don't see how we play on the big, national level.

Of course, we have some Tea Party people endorsing Romney or Paul. But at least the few larger straw polls done by Tea Parties went for one of the good candidates.

93 posted on 03/18/2012 12:09:08 AM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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