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Airport Security to Passengers: Leave Guns Home(barf alert)
thefiscaltimes.com ^ | 18 March, 2012 | BARBARA GOLDBERG

Posted on 03/18/2012 9:19:24 PM PDT by marktwain

Most airline passengers pack a toothbrush and fresh underwear in their luggage, while others carry land mines, grenade launchers, swords and mortar shells.

Not only does the U.S. Transportation Security Administration (TSA) confiscate four handguns a day among the contraband it takes from airline customers, its agents once seized a stun gun concealed as lipstick and found a dagger hidden inside a hairbrush, according to weekly updates on The TSA blog.

"If I'm going with the weirdest, it would have to be the guy who had all the snakes in his pants," recalled Bob Burns, 41, who writes online for the agency as Blogger Bob.

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Some of the deadly weapons are a real threat to airline safety, he said, but in other cases it's simply a matter of cluelessness. "The first incident occurred at the Miami International Airport (MIA) and involved a gentleman with seven small snakes in his pants ..." Burns wrote in August 2011.

"The passenger was arrested on the federal charge of 'harboring reptiles in an unnatural habitat.' I made that up ... the individual was actually charged with violating the Lacey Act," the blog said, referring to the law that combats trafficking in illegal wildlife, fish and plants.

Chainsaw Not a Problem, But Gas – That's Another Story In a post last month about a western New York airport, he wrote, "Believe it or not, the chainsaw found at Elmira (ELM) was not the problem here. You can travel with your chainsaw as checked luggage, however, gassing it up is the problem. You know... Gas? Highly flammable liquid."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
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This article seems designed to misinform. It is not illegal to transport guns when you are traveling by airline. There are well established procedures for doing so. You simply have to declare the gun and have it unloaded in locked luggage that meets airline requirements.

The article implies that it is simply illegal to do so.

1 posted on 03/18/2012 9:19:32 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Unless you get diverted to a state where you can go to jail for having an unloaded one, in your checked baggage.

/johnny

2 posted on 03/18/2012 9:23:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Like NY.


3 posted on 03/18/2012 9:27:13 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: marktwain

I take my handgun every time I fly. I know the procedure, have the correct case, limit it to one (which is the hard part) and have it unloaded. I also pull the slide back and lock it to make it easier to see that it is empty.

I have never had an issue with transporting guns other than once another passenger screamed “she has a gun!” when I was checking my baggage and showing it was unloaded in my suitcase. Security came running, laughed and explained to the freaked out liberal (she had to be) that it was fine and perfectly legal.


4 posted on 03/18/2012 9:30:13 PM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
I won't travel by air anymore. Period. I don't have to, so I won't.

And I won't go to states without liberty based gun laws.

/johnny

5 posted on 03/18/2012 9:34:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: marktwain
I traveled between San Diego and Denver with my S&W 686+. It was in a locked container with the required signed declaration that it was unloaded, then placed in my checked baggage. That was well before TSA existed. I wouldn't do it today because I frankly don't trust TSA not to steal it. The have opened and destroyed over $1,000 of my personally owned luggage due to misrouting of my bags by the airline. I got no financial relief from TSA, the airline or my company. It should be no surprise that I shifted from flying every 2 weeks to serve my company's needs to not flying for them since Dec 2008. Not interested in being pissed on by TSA, the airlines or my company. I'll drive if I need to go somewhere. I let my passport expire, so I don't have to worry about being sent places unsuitable for driving.
6 posted on 03/18/2012 9:39:19 PM PDT by Myrddin
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The agent at the counter got a little nervous when I removed the 686+ and popped the cylinder open to demonstrate that it was empty. I was more surprised as someone walked up with a multiple sheet carbon form to fill out so I could have the firearm in the cabin. I explained that wasn't necessary. My principal concern when traveling with the firearm in checked baggage is getting my hands on the bag ASAP as it hits to carousel in the baggage retrieval area. Even more worrisome is having the bag fail to arrive. Fortunately, that has never happened. My hotel in Greenwood Village lacked a safe in the hotel room. I checked the locked box with the hotel clerk for placement in the hotel safe.
7 posted on 03/18/2012 9:44:33 PM PDT by Myrddin
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“I have never had an issue with transporting guns other than once another passenger screamed “she has a gun!”

LOL, I wish I was there to laugh at the libtard. When I came from the Philippines on a biz trip, a lot of my Filipino friends asked me to buy the “balisong” (Filipino switchblade) and had it encased, and the lady beside me looked at me like I was going to hijack the plane.


8 posted on 03/18/2012 9:45:43 PM PDT by max americana
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To: JRandomFreeper

Sadly, I have to travel by air twice a year. Once to come home after taking my mother out to her winter home and once to go back to get her and drive her home.

The state I live in has reciprocity with 28 states for CCW and we stick to states that have the reciprocity and avoid states that have bad gun laws.

I don’t like flying, but my mother CANNOT physically fly and I don’t like her driving alone.


9 posted on 03/18/2012 10:00:02 PM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Myrddin

I wish I could have my firearm, even unloaded in the cabin. I hate that is has to go with luggage. When I travel, we stick to states I can carry and my CCW never leaves my body. I carry on my person, not in my purse. My gun, my responsibility.


10 posted on 03/18/2012 10:02:33 PM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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I don’t like flying, but my mother CANNOT physically fly...

Mine can't either now that she's in her 80s but you should have
seen her soar on the wind when she was younger!

;^) Sorry, couldn't help it.

11 posted on 03/18/2012 10:20:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Got that right. Flight-free since Nov 2001.


12 posted on 03/18/2012 11:23:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: marktwain
"Not only does the U.S. Transportation Security Administration
[The Sanduskying of America] (TSA) confiscate four handguns a day among the contraband it takes from airline customers, its agents once seized a stun gun concealed as lipstick and found a dagger hidden inside a hairbrush, according to weekly updates on The TSA blog."

And I'm sure the day isn't long in coming before copies of the United States Constitution disguised as newspapers, magazines and periodicals will be seized just as eagerly by those federal goons and thugs.
13 posted on 03/18/2012 11:24:54 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front!)
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second screening for a multimeter in the carry on - other than that nothing weird in Jacksoneville air port screening so far this morning. They have the Minions trained for the most part - no deadly nail clippers, knitting needles OK, no pocket knives, god forbid a bottle of water or lighter for your cigs. THIS IS SO CRAZY
14 posted on 03/19/2012 2:12:15 AM PDT by Tubac414 (Just want to ride my Motorcycle)
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To: reaganaut
Agreed. Have travelled with handguns on hundreds of flights, and have even thwarted arrest when diverted to Laguardia.

Lately, however, I have noticed a disturbing trend in the way TSA requires handguns to be handled, one that I fear will greatly increase the incidence of theft or mishandling.
First, it has always been my understanding that part of the rules for checking firearms has been that you, the passenger, are the only person with a key to the locked container. Lately, the TSA is recommending TSA "locks" for these containers (at my airport - CVG - at least) which seems patently illegal. In that case, it is not only me, but tens of thousands of TSA agents - many of questionable character, who have the key to my locked container.
In addition, rather than screening the firearms in front of me, which also used to be a requirement, there has been a move to screen them in an area passengers do not have access to. So, they either need to take possession of your keys (illegal), have TSA locks on the case (illegal), or screen the case without opening it. This has given rise to airline representatives having to carry the case into this "back room" after trying to talk you out of your keys, and come up with some sort of communications vehicle that requires you to loiter at the ticket counter waiting for the agent to get a call with the "all clear", at which time you can proceed to enjoy your jelly glove treatment at the checkpoint.

The airline representative designated to carry my case to the TSA last week flat refused to let me fly if I would not give him the keys to the case to take with him. Based on what I've seen over the last 6-12 months, after flying with handguns remained relatively unchanged for many, many years, I am of the belief that TSA/DHS are creating policy on the fly to fulfill a directive to hassle people that travel with firearms.

15 posted on 03/19/2012 4:54:34 AM PDT by earlyapex (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.)
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To: reaganaut
I wish I could have my firearm, even unloaded in the cabin. I hate that is has to go with luggage.

I agree. I'm worried about theft from my luggage. My 686+ was purchased for $437 in 1999. They go for $780 now. It's my favorite recreational shooting handgun. It probably has 15,000 rounds fired since purchase. The 640 (5-shot stainless, shrouded hammer, .357mag) is my more common carry. Fits nicely in my pocket and the shrouded hammer keep pocket fuzz out of the action.

16 posted on 03/19/2012 9:28:42 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: earlyapex

Interesting. I have not had that happen - either of those. I will be flying out to CA in a few weeks and I’ll see if there has been any change here with how they handle it.

The Commies in Gov’t don’t want us to HAVE guns much less travel with them.


17 posted on 03/19/2012 9:30:41 AM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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