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For young killers, 'a chance to have a chance'
Chicago Tribune ^ | March 19, 2012 | Steve Mills

Posted on 03/19/2012 6:57:41 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

Adolfo Davis had been 14 years old for just two months when he made the mistake that changed his life.

In October 1990, he was living on Chicago's South Side with a grandmother who could barely care for him. His father was gone. His mother was a drug addict. He was teased because he often wore the same clothes to school. He committed petty crimes to get money for food. He found family in a gang, and one night, two much older gang members brought him along on what he believed was going to be a robbery. Two men were killed, though Davis never fired his gun.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: crime; killers; supremecourt; youth
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To: IronJack

And he’ll be wearing the same clothes for a long, long time.


21 posted on 03/19/2012 9:28:18 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
The law might say that, but it doesn’t make it right.

What IS right? The law presumably exists for a reason, namely that the citizens of the state saw fit to equate murder in the commission of a felony to Capital Murder. The Supreme Court didn't create the law out of vapor like it did in the case of abortion "rights".

22 posted on 03/19/2012 9:38:27 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Even though “His father was gone. His mother was a drug addict.”, the laws of God and country remain fair but tough.


23 posted on 03/19/2012 9:49:41 AM PDT by citizen (The Dims will all unite for Zero. We must soon unite behind our challenger and back him to victory!)
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To: tacticalogic

I wasn’t talking about this case in particular, was talking more about the law in general.

But lets even go into this case, you have 14 year old boy with not much of anything now in your gang, sounds like probably an ok kid under a bad situation at this point though could be wrong, hasn’t been completely lost.. his buddy’s convince him to be lookout/driver for a robery, and it goes wrong... at 14 could the kid really forsee that possibility? Dubious, unless he was a hardened criminal..that he really could think that all the way through...

Again, I am not suggesting the kids should escape punishment, just saying the mandatory LWOPP law seems bad law because it is going to ensnare those that are not hardened criminals, and could turn things around, with those who are completely past saving.

I am not against throwing a kid in jail for life or even executing them under circumstances where it is clear without any shadow of a doubt they knew what they were doing etc.. (The hardned criminal) but I don’t think its appropriate that it be applied across the board to any case.


24 posted on 03/19/2012 10:00:05 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: monocle

“Why should the defendant be treated more leniently than his victim or the victim’s family. I would be in favor interment based on the victim’s age expectancy”

I agree, as in, “Services at 11, followed by interment at 2 at Woodlawn Cemetery.


25 posted on 03/19/2012 10:04:47 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: HamiltonJay
at 14 could the kid really forsee that possibility?

Given the environment he's in, I'd have a hard time believing that by the age of 14 the kid didn't know that armed robberies can go bad and when the do, people get shot.

26 posted on 03/19/2012 10:19:18 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: IronJack

There was a time when the law said it was OK to hang children for stealing hankerchiefs and burn people alive for being witches.
Personally, I have a problem with locking up a 13 year old for the rest of his life when he neither pulled the trigger nor gave the order for someone else to do so...


27 posted on 03/19/2012 2:18:46 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Personally, I have a problem with locking up a 13 year old for the rest of his life when he neither pulled the trigger nor gave the order for someone else to do so...

Then you'd be the perfect juror for the defense. Personally, I wouldn't bat an eye. And I certainly wouldn't be swayed by any of this boo-hoo bull flop.

28 posted on 03/19/2012 4:50:57 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I couldn’t care less about what happens to him. Make him a roll model for others so they might think twice before they make the same “mistake.” Life without parole is just right.


29 posted on 03/19/2012 6:59:04 PM PDT by Captain Steve
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To: IronJack

Don’t get me wrong, I would have voted to convict if the evidence directed me to, but locking up a 13 year old with no possibility for parole in those circumstances is ridiculously harsh. Its a harsher punishment than it would be for an adult because he has his whole life in front of him.
He should have served a few years, not his whole life.


30 posted on 03/20/2012 3:52:10 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: yldstrk
Our society teaches disrespect for life, teaches that if someone has more than you it is fine to take what you want...

Liberals teach that - conservatives don't. Are you living in liberal-land?

31 posted on 03/21/2012 6:40:08 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Liberal values in action - no fathers, zero responsibility, drug addictions just another lifestyle... this story is a yawn. It’s dog bites man...


32 posted on 03/21/2012 6:48:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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