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To: BillyBoy
Your confusing the ends with the means. States rights is all about the means.

What about all the "states rights!!!" freepers demanding the repeal of the 17th amendment? Do you agree with them? Last time I checked, it was ratified by the states, which means the states themselves voluntarily agreed to give up their right to appoint U.S. Senators.

Yes, they did. And if the states want to repeal it, then it should be repealed by the states. As for those freepers (myself included), we think the 17th Amendment was a bad idea and want it repealed. So, we work to get it repealed. As it's a Constitutional amendment, there will have to be another amendment to repeal it, a la Prohibition.

Do you think the repeal of the 17th would be an example of statism? Or do you think it would a victory for "states right!!!

So the answer to that would depend on *HOW* it was repealed. Note that... *HOW* it was repealed (see how the process matters?) If the President or Congress just enacted an Executive Order or law annulling it, that would violate the Constitution... and the rights of the states. If, on the other hand, a new Amendment was added to the Constitution repealing it, then that would be great.

Same for the 2nd Amendment. If a 2/3rds majority of states want it repealed (G-d, I hope not!), then they can. Whereas all these federal gun laws that try to do so via legislation violate states rights.

That process is what separates America from the tinpot dictatorships around the world. For we are supposed to be a nation ruled by *LAW*, not by *PEOPLE*. And our supreme law of the land is the Constitution... and we better d#$n well follow it.

EVEN WHEN IT'S NOT TO OUR CONVENIENCE!!!

113 posted on 03/21/2012 12:24:40 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla
>> Same for the 2nd Amendment. If a 2/3rds majority of states want it repealed (G-d, I hope not!), then they can. <<

Ah, got it. Passing 2nd amendment good. Passing human life amendment BAD:

Guaranteed national right to own a gun > Guaranteed national right to life

Needless to say, I disagree with your priorities.

114 posted on 03/21/2012 1:17:30 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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