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To: cynwoody
“He had a scholarship at Punahou, arranged by Grandpa's boss at the furniture store (who was an alumnus). Why would a graduate of Hawaii's #1 prep school need to masquerade as a foreign student to get into Occidental?”

Obama did not have a scholarship arranged by Grampa’s boss. Where did you get this information?

Obama was a heavy drug user at Punahou and an indifferent student. Obama’s grades and student record from Punahou have NEVER been released. Any assumption about Obama’s ability to get into any school because of his record at Punahou is nothing but idle speculation.

Obama was not masquerading as a foreign student, he was a foreign student. He was not a U.S. citizen and had no documentation. Obama was a heavy drug user and poor student at Occidental. We know with certainty that he did not have a GPA of 3.0 or better. He appears to have taken no challenging courses though his record is not available. It is likely, based on interviews with others who were there, that Obama was a part time student at Occidental.

There is no record of Obama ever having attended Columbia University. None of the other Political Science majors at the time recall ever meeting him or even seeing him in any of their classes. No other students recall ever seeing him in the library or on campus. He was in NYC the same time Ayers and Dohrn were. They lived near each other.

Obama’s stories about having a job on Wall Street has been shown to be untrue. Obama has given 5 different versions of how he was hired out of the blue by one of Ayers’ radical associates for a “community organizer” job in Chicago. He was supposed to have helped out of work steel mill and factory workers retrain and find new jobs. There is no evidence whatsoever that he found a single unemployed man a single job.

Obama went from failed community organizer to Harvard Law student. That doesn't happen in real life. Obama had help. Obama got a summer intern job at Sidley and Austen even though they didn't want him in the first place and told him to not came back after one summer. This was the same office that gave a job to Bernardine Dohrn even though she wasn't licensed to practice law and did no actual legal work for the firm.

You really should try to learn a little about the false narrative of Obama’s life that is pushed by the MSM.

138 posted on 03/20/2012 10:34:48 AM PDT by detective
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To: detective
You have some facts but give them an extra twist or tweak that turn them into non-facts. Obama was a drug user in school. Do we really know that he was a "heavy drug user"? Was he incapacitated? Always stoned in class? How'd he pay for it? Pushing to other students? You have to provide documentation for these things if you have it. Halve your estimate of his drug usage and throw in basketball and you may be closer to what was going on.

Obama's grades at Punahou were not great. But how do we know that he didn't take any challenging classes or what his GPA was if we don't have his transcripts? You're making a leap here and I don't think you're aware of it. To be sure, we don't know much about his days there and it's puzzling why the media never asks his classmates, but not knowing what happened is different from knowing what you claim we do.

Same thing with Occidental and Columbia. We don't know that he was a "part-time" student at Occidental. Obama didn't make an impression on most of his classmates at Columbia but it's not true that absolutely nobody remembers him.

We also don't know that Sidley and Austin asked him not to come back after one summer. Indeed, the established story is that they offered him a full-time position. That may not be true, but it does have more support than your version. You may be right, certainly more right than the official version, but where's your evidence?

It also sounds like you've seriously misjudged what was going on at universities and law schools at the time. They wanted Black applicants and they took some who could have had worse transcripts than Obama had. It did happen that minority applicants could go from community organizer to Harvard Law student, especially if they had an elite college somewhere in their resume.

157 posted on 03/20/2012 2:48:05 PM PDT by x
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To: detective
Obama did not have a scholarship arranged by Grampa’s boss. Where did you get this information?

OK. So how about you tell us how he got into the school and how his tuition got paid?

David Mendell claims in his book, Obama: From Promise to Power, that Gramps's boss, who was an alumnus, got him into Punahou. Another source claims the connection was Frank Manaut, who was the president of the bank at which his grandmother was a VP and a trustee of Punahou. Of course, there is no reason both individuals could not have been involved. It has also been widely reported that Punahou extended financial aid to permit Obama to attend.

Obama was a heavy drug user at Punahou and an indifferent student. Obama’s grades and student record from Punahou have NEVER been released. Any assumption about Obama’s ability to get into any school because of his record at Punahou is nothing but idle speculation.

How would we know, if his grades are not available? My guess is, he went to Occidental because his grades and test scores were mediocre. But that's only a guess. A Punahou kid with good grades and scores should have been Harvard material.

There is no record of Obama ever having attended Columbia University. None of the other Political Science majors at the time recall ever meeting him or even seeing him in any of their classes. No other students recall ever seeing him in the library or on campus. He was in NYC the same time Ayers and Dohrn were. They lived near each other.

Standard birther garbage. For instance, Michael Baron, who was one of his teachers at Columbia, remembers giving him an A for a paper on nuclear arms reduction. As for Ayers and Dohrn, his connecting with them in NYC makes it more likely, not less, that he did indeed go to Columbia.

Obama’s stories about having a job on Wall Street has been shown to be untrue.

Link? You would need to prove he never worked at Business International. But you can't. Why would it matter, one way other?

You really should try to learn a little about the false narrative of Obama’s life that is pushed by the MSM.

It's obvious that I am much better at sorting truth from fiction than you.

165 posted on 03/20/2012 8:50:50 PM PDT by cynwoody
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